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The Unofficial Sager "Arctic Silver" Guide - Page 2

post #21 of 120
12/16/03 at 2:49pm
Good tips LeF'. I have yet another vote for a STICKY! It would be nice to keep all the big and little fixes near the top of the pond. The number of times I've seen folks kind enough to repeat yet again how to do an OS reinstall, how to flash the BIOS, how to clean fans, yada yada yada. Santa, may we have a STICKY for Christmas?
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post #22 of 120
12/16/03 at 3:41pm
thanks for the excellent post gf. i did my 8890 with arctic silver 5 ($7.95 for a 3.5 gram tube). took about 40 minutes, of which about 30 was spent cleaning off the old thermal paste - especially the glue that was used to secure the pad to the heat spreader. i was surprised at how much dust had accumulated on the heat sink after only two months. i plan on checking and cleaning it about every three months or so from now on.

here is a link to the arctic silver site. pretty much the same info as gf has given us.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

so far, after a few hours of use, the fan kicks in about half as much as it did previously. i did notice that, judging from the amount of the original thermal paste on the cpu, there was only about 20% contact between the thermal pad and the cpu. i would not have tried this had it not been for gf's instructions.
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post #23 of 120
12/16/03 at 4:19pm
This guide by artic silver seems to suggest that the paste in the middle of the cpue and then applying the heatsink on top and wriggling is the way to go for the P4 - any thoughts? Is it even possible to wriggle 5680's heatsink?
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post #24 of 120
12/16/03 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by Bratag
This guide by artic silver seems to suggest that the paste in the middle of the cpue and then applying the heatsink on top and wriggling is the way to go for the P4 - any thoughts? Is it even possible to wriggle 5680's heatsink?
The wiggling to remove air bubbles is a great idea, but I can't remember if my heatsink had any "wiggling room" or not...I remember it's a pretty tight fit. On the other hand, I didn't actually try to wiggle it so I can't say for sure.
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post #25 of 120
12/16/03 at 11:12pm
Just thought I would give people a rundown on my results from this. I used Dynex silver because Arctic was all out at my local store. Before the application of the thermal paste my machine would start at around 42/3 degrees - it would then climb slowly up to around 46/47 at which stage the fans would kick in. After the paste (I did not lap the heatsink - also I probably used a little too much paste because to me wiping the heatsink clean just looked so wrong - I did it but left a little more on the cpu than perhaps I could have) my computer now stays pretty much 42/43 idle and does not climb at all while idle. That is a HUGE improvement in my opinion - 5-4 Deg C cooler running means that my fans are not constantly kicking in to cool the machine.

Thanks G money - without this guide I never would have done this I am sure.

Oh and PS: A credit card is good for getting the thermal pad off but for spreading the compound I found a thin guitar plektrum to be the shizniz
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post #26 of 120
12/19/03 at 1:49pm
Sticky Bump Sticky Bump Sticky Bump Sticky Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #27 of 120
12/21/03 at 4:36pm
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To everyone who has given insights into alternate methods of doing this project, these are very helpful and convenient for a person who might not have the exact materials that I specified in my guide. They are all great ideas, so thank you for adding them!

Congratulations to everyone who has done this and seen great results. It really does make a difference. Not only that, but the knowledge you gain is priceless. If only one person had done this project and succeeded, I still would've been happy.
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post #28 of 120
12/21/03 at 5:27pm
i ordered some arctic silver 5 to replace the arctic silver 3 i used on the core. i read that it lowers load temps over FIVE degrees celsius and idle temps over four degrees... when the system gets as hot as this, i will take that improvement gladly. now, all they need to do is improve the cooling of the hard drive, video core, and the cdrom
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post #29 of 120
12/22/03 at 12:54pm
Just out in interest - what are peoples idle and load temps - mine are basically 42 C idle and 51-53 C load.
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post #30 of 120
12/22/03 at 1:38pm
how would i find out? you cant use the tempgauge on the 47XX series far as i know. all i know is it gets warm.
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post #31 of 120
12/24/03 at 6:16pm
I did the A-silver III on my Area51m based on the sager models.. I found that the heatsink is alot diffrent then those shown on GE's pictures. I have knoticed a few things when doing this..

1. when I removed the heatsink the cpu stuck to the sink and came out of the socket.. [I though I had destroyed the cpu/mobo with that]

2nd. when I did the mod I knoticed that the temps @ idol got higher but when the fans kicked in it actuly droped the temps LOW I hit 39* C idel with the fans blowing..

3rd. Before hand with running games and cpu burn in test before the bod I could hit over 70*c now I never go over 62*c

Im going to redo the mod with some Asilver 5 as soon as I can get some and will post the review..

Thanks for your help..



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post #32 of 120
12/24/03 at 6:17pm
By the way if you look at the keyboard in the pictures that is just my backup keyboard for if my wireless KB batteries go dead hehe.. I haven't used it in ages
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post #33 of 120
1/7/04 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by pr1malr8ge

3rd. Before hand with running games and cpu burn in test before the bod I could hit over 70*c now I never go over 62*c

Im going to redo the mod with some Asilver 5 as soon as I can get some and will post the review..

Thanks for your help..
No prob...I'm glad you could use the info!! Have you got around to doing this with the AS5 yet? I ask because if the temp difference is significant then I'm going to redo mine with 5 also
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post #34 of 120
1/7/04 at 2:09pm
For the love of crap can we please make this sticky.
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post #35 of 120
1/14/04 at 1:05pm
I'm a little confused... I'm ready to do the whole shebang to my 5670, but when I opened it up, I saw that the fans were connected to what I assumed is the heatsink. I just need a little clarification: on the 5670, are the fans attatched? It appears to be so on the alienware in the picture. Thanks!
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post #36 of 120
1/14/04 at 2:33pm
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If you haven't removed anything yet, then I would assume if fans such as the ones in the Alienware pics are attached to it, then it is probably the heatsink. Look for things such as mounting springs or hints that would point to it being the heatsink. Can we get verification from a 5670 owner?
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post #37 of 120
1/14/04 at 6:19pm
Get a copy of the 5670 and 5680 service manuals. That will provide a definitive answer. From the CLEVO's mouth, so to speak.
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post #38 of 120
1/15/04 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
Get a copy of the 5670 and 5680 service manuals. That will provide a definitive answer. From the CLEVO's mouth, so to speak.
I shoulda said that to begin with lol

Well, I've got some AS5 coming in the mail now, so before long I'll see if we can get some temperature drops going...
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post #39 of 120
1/27/04 at 12:40am
lapped my heat sink, I couldn't believe how uneven it was, it took about an hour.

applied artic silver 5.

I also lapped my processor (ever so gently)

I have never checked the temp, but the fans come on less often, and when they do it is very short lived.

My heat sink was like the one pictured above (green alienware) I just removed the fans 3 screws apiece and went to work.

I found a good way to limit the amout of artic silver was to apply it to the cpu evenly, and then put the heat synk in place and wiggle it.
then remove the heat synk and wipe clean

I would repeat this process until when I removed the heat synk it and the processor only had a thin layer of artic silver on it.
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post #40 of 120
1/27/04 at 12:43am
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Glad to hear the positive results robjen! I've been meaning to redo mine with AS5 instead of AS3 but the homework is starting to pile on...

Great tips also!

Just be sure to notice the term "VERY GENTLY" when he refers to lapping the cpu die. That's livin' life on the edge
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