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post #1 of 64
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This guide shows you how you can surf the internet wirelessly even if you're on dial-up. Skip the next section if you want to go straight to the setup.

Background

Some of us are satisfied with dial-up, can't afford a broadband connection, or it isn't available in our area to begin with and the satellite route is too expensive (and unreliable). But like broadband users with their wireless "broadband routers", we still would like to enjoy wireless technology to go online with our laptops without running wires. Well..we can

There are two basic ways to use your dial-up connection wirelessly:

1. Use a stand-alone wireless router or a similar device that supports a dial-up modem (either internally or externally)

There exist older wireless broadband routers (e.g., Orinoco RG-1000, Apple AirPort) that support an internal or an external dial-up modem. These modems are meant for backup in case the broadband connection goes out but can be used solely to share dial-up. You can still buy these routers but they are expensive, typically lack other important features, and are simply outdated technology.

There are also more recent devices geared specifically to dial-up users. The two most popular being WiFlyer and Nebo Wireless. They're also expensive, don't offer the latest wireless technology (802.11b at most), and have limited features.

=> Before you dump your money into on any of these, I have to tell you that I highly do not recommend this method. Even though this option may be more appealing at first because a singe small device is doing the job, the second option is much better because of its flexibility.

2. Use another PC to share the dial-up connection through a regular wireless router

This is the approach I'll be detailing below. Windows has a feature called Internet Connection Sharing (ICS from now on) that lets you share an internet connection with other computers. Together with a regular wireless router (that's marketed towards broadband users) it can be used to share dial-up wirelessly.

This is a good approach because Windows XP's ICS is very reliable, easy to configure and use. It doesn't tie up the desktop performing it nor does it bog it down very much so the PC can be used for other things. In addition and unlike the first option, you're not tied to using a specific router so you can upgrade to a different router in the future - say to 802.11n to speed up your internal network. And if later down the road you decide to switch to broadband, you'll have everything you need to share it wirelessly and the transition will be quick and painless.

=> The only major disadvantage with this approach is that if you don't already have one, need another PC that is running all the time or whenever you want to use the internet (or your internal network.)

(3). You can also combine the above two approaches by connecting together multiple stand-alone devices. For example, connect an older wired broadband router that supports a dial-up modem, or a device such as WiFlyer, and share the internet connection to a regular wireless broadband router. This allows for switching to a better wireless router in the future and does not require running a separate computer.

Now on to..

The Setup

Here is a network diagram of the setup I'll be describing:



Requirements: A separate PC (other than your wireless one) that's running windows XP (a family PC is a good choice) has a wired NIC and is already setup for dial-up, wireless router with at least one wired port, an ethernet cable.

There are two simple steps to this setup and can be done in any order but I suggest you set the router first because you may have trouble logging into it with the desktop after performing ICS on it.

=> Bring down all of your firewalls (on the ICS server and the client machines) before doing the setup. You can later adjust them appropriately once everything is working. This is the main cause of problems.

Router Setup

Log in to your router and disable DHCP - that will be done by the desktop performing ICS. However, do NOT disable NAT as the router uses it to map the IP addresses. Give the router an IP address in the form of 192.168.0.x where x is any number between 2 and 254 (inclusive) - make sure the router doesn't have the IP address 192.168.0.1 (the default on many routers) as this will conflict with the ICS Server's IP address. Write this IP address down because you will use it from now on whenever you want to login to the router.

As an example, here is a screenshot showing these changes on the popular Linksys BEFW11S4 router:



After you're done, connect the router to the desktop's wired NIC using an ethernet (cat-5) cable - as long as you don't have very old hardware either a straight-through or a crossover cat-5 cable will work here.

Make sure to plug the ethernet cable to one of the regular LAN ports on the router, not to the port labeled as Internet/WAN. If your wireless router doesn't have any wired LAN ports or you're using them all, you can still use the internet/WAN port but the router settings are more involved (email me for instructions).

Notes:
- Even though we're disabling DHCP, a wireless access point instead of a full wireless router will not work here because NAT is neecessary

- If you prefer, you can use a wireless card on the desktop instead of a wired NIC and a wireless router. However, only one wireless client will be able to share the connection and it will also need to have special configuration done. More information on this setup here.

ICS Setup on Desktop

Go to "Networking Connections" and right click on the dial-up connection you'd like to share. Select Properties, click on the Advanced Tab and check the first checkbox under Internet Connection Sharing. If you have more than one eligible network device which can be used to share the connection, you'll see a drop down menu to choose.



Notes:

- It's possible to share the connection through multiple network cards, but you have to bridge them before performing ICS.

- The ICS server will give out IP addresses in the form: 192.168.0.x with the desktop having the starting address 192.168.0.1 - Unlike on other windows versions, it is impossible to change this value in Windows XP. So make sure this range does not conflict with your other network addresses such as the one your ISP gives you (some ISP's give out private IP addresses to avoid running out of their share of global IP addresses and unfortunatelly for this set up the most commonly used private address block is 192.168.0.x).

- A part of ICS is a DHCP server. This means that activating it will also network your computers (possibility to share files), including the desktop performing ICS. And ICS works even if it is not connected to the internet so you can use your network even if you are not online.

- Windows 98 also has ICS but it isn't as reliable as XP's

On the Clients

No special configuration on the clients has to be made. Connect to the router as you would to any normal wireless access point.

Notes:

- You can add additional client computers to this network either wirelessly or physically by connecting them to an available wired LAN port on the router.

- The internet connection will only be split when multiple computers are using it so don't worry about having multiple computers connected to your network bogging down your already sluggish dial-up.

Telling the ICS Server to Connect/Disconnect

Once you can wirelessly surf with your notebook using the above setup, you'll realize a major hindrance to your wireless enjoyment - whenever you want to connect and disconnect to and from the internet you have to run to your desktop. To remedy that, there are a couple ways to tell the desktop to connect or disconnect from your wireless laptop.

Automatic:

You can let windows automatically dial the connection whenever it detects a computer on the network trying to access the internet. This can be set by checking the second check box in ICS settings. However, I strongly discourage this method because it can be extremely annoying. In addition, the complementary method for disconnecting sucks. You also set your dial-up connection to automatically disconnect after being idle for some time.



Internet Gateway Icon:

This is the way I recommend but be aware that it can be a bit buggy.

Windows XP (98 too) has a build-in feature called Internet Gateway that can be used to control the remote connection. In order for it to work, make sure the third checkbox is checked in the ICS properties on the server. In addition, you must save the username/password for the dial-up connection and indicate that it's to be used for "Anyone who uses this computer". Otherwise when your wireless laptop tells the ICS server to dial-up, the connection won't be authenticated by the ISP and the modem will hang up.



On the XP client machines it should show up automatically in the Network Connections folder:



You can use it to connect/disconnect, check the status of the connection and its properties (actual dial-up speed and packets sent/received), and set other properties. For quicker access, you can set for it to show in your system tray as a networking icon:



Shortcut to Rasdial:

Another good way is to create two networks shortcuts (one for connect and one for disconnect) to a program on the ICS desktop that performs the dialing and disconnect functions. That program is called rasdial and you can learn how to use it here.

VNC:

You can also use a VNC viewer, such as UltraVNC or the one windows xp provides, to remotely control the desktop and simply connect/disconnect the manual way. This method is useful if clients don't want to bring down their firewall. But requires more steps and can annoy the person using the ICS desktop at the time. You also do not have to be networked. Even if you're not planning on using this method, it's a good backup and helps you remotely administer other things on the desktop.

Configuring ZoneAlarm Free Firewall for ICS and Networking

It's a good idea to have a firewall installed on the ICS desktop that's directly connected to the internet. ZoneAlarm free is a good one. It doesn't fully support ICS but well enough for most purposes.

First lower both the Internet (for sharing internet connection) and Trusted (for local networking) Security Zones to medium:



Now you'll be able to share the internet connection on the network but not yet files on the LAN. To do so, you must specify the IP address range in the Trusted Zone. Click on the Zones tab, click on the Add button, choose IP range, and enter the IP address range 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255 into the trusted zone. Don't forget to hit the Apply button or the settings might not save.



If you need more detailed procedures, special configurations, or have other questions or problems, post a request here
post #2 of 64
Dial-up? What's that?
post #3 of 64
hey man i really appriciate this write up. i still cant get my dialup connection to get shared, but atleast now i know im not the only person trying to do this. when i called D-Link they treated me like i was dumb. the guy kept telling me that it cant be done and that and i quote "you can only share a broadband connection". i have gotten the dialup shared a couple times before and it worked great! but it always seems to just "stop" working for some reason. have never been able to figure it out, so i just gave up.... one thing that i have never done though is disable the DHCP. but i just tried that and i still cant get it to work... maybe if u are on MSN messenger or something you could PM me and help me out?
post #4 of 64
i used to share dialup via HPNA but then i got cable (...oh, and a wireless router)
post #5 of 64
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Originally Posted by HardD99
but i just tried that and i still cant get it to work... maybe if u are on MSN messenger or something you could PM me and help me out?
I pretty much described all that you needed to know to do the configuration. I do have a more thorough tutorial that I wrote for my local community where we can only get dial-up. I just gave an overview here and if you need specifics on, say setting up ICS, I will have to point you to google. PM me and I'll see if I can help you out.

I had this setup in my house for over a year now and it's been great. Have also done it for 20 other people in my community. I mentioned having this setup in other posts and a couple of people contacted me on the specifics so I thought I write it up.
post #6 of 64
yeah, definately alot of people would find this useful...

whats really weird is my replaytv is wired to my router and it updates itself every night through my dialup connection, but i cant get the actual wireless to work at all, it connects just doesnt see any other pc's on network.
post #7 of 64
Very usefull...
My parents live on a small island in the carribeans... dialup is still king there... she bought a laptop about 18 months ago, and for about 6 months or so, she had restricted herself to a 6 foot phone cord... then a 25 footer... and then I went down there with some USR router and external USR 56K modem, and she's all set!
Setting up a 2nd PC for her would be overkill!!!
post #8 of 64
Dang, wish I would have seen this a few days ago. Just got done helping my brother-in-law setup a shared ICS through a router at his friends house and there is no way they are getting broadband anytime soon. Driving up to the lady's house I was waiting to see the end of paved road sign. Got everything working ok through an MSN account, but Juno which is where all her kid's email is going at the moment wont ICS itself at all. I think it has something to do with the proprietary software Juno uses. After connecting the Juno account tried using IE and IE would say no connection, but Juno software worked fine. Oh yeah, I was connecting desktops (no laptops involved), but they were all using wireless nics. Had to actually statically assign IP's as the system with dial-up connection was an XP box and the 3 others were all running Breezy Badger and for some Samba was having issues with DHCP.
post #9 of 64
can you tell me how I can make a wirless connection to my laptop so I can sit anywhere in the home? My notebook isn't wireless enabled but can I get some sort of thing that plugs into my modem and then can wirelessly connect to something plugged into my laptop like usb or something? something like that anyway
post #10 of 64
Nice writeup!!

Now, I'd imagine that the main computer wouldn't be in use, correct?
post #11 of 64
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Originally Posted by kockledoo
can you tell me how I can make a wirless connection to my laptop so I can sit anywhere in the home? My notebook isn't wireless enabled but can I get some sort of thing that plugs into my modem and then can wirelessly connect to something plugged into my laptop like usb or something? something like that anyway
Take a look at the device nebo wireless provides. I can't recommend it because it's not a standard. If you have to use a dedicated device, I recommend using something standard like the older Apple Airport or you can combine a wired router that supports a dial-up modem with a regular wireles router.

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Originally Posted by Boogieman117
Nice writeup!!

Now, I'd imagine that the main computer wouldn't be in use, correct?
Quote:
It doesn't tie up the desktop performing it nor does it bog it down very much so the PC can be used for other things.
post #12 of 64
Nice guide.
post #13 of 64
anyone here know if reinstalling windows XP and drivers clears your memory??
post #14 of 64
Nice Writeup man, to bad this wasnt out when i did this like some 2 and a half years ago, i guess this was never heard of at the time, so had to learn it on my own, mine was a little more rock'ier, but in the long run i know this thing inside out, plus i was going to school for this kind of stuff, so it came alot easier to me. at the time i was shareing it amung 2 pc's wired, and now it has grown to 5 perminent, and 7 here and there now wireless of course and growing, and now has grew to two wireless routers(the linksys wrt54g, and the 54gs) bridged with eachother ones upstairs, the otehr downstairs to my main dialup pc i also have a temp wap54g incase needed, and 3 or 4 hubs/router laying around not really in use, except for testing purposes, and next is still up in the air either mimo, or 802.11n, gonna wait and see which comes ahead as the standard, but for now pretty content with my hacked wrt54gs

the only thing i did notice that you did different then me was i pluged mine into the wan port of my linky, and have dhcp enabled on the linky too, and the the linksys grabes an addy from the computer, along with the one set staticly, think i enabled dhcp client service, cant remember thou, dont think it came already started on xp home, but eh, it works without a hitch.

but eh, if any one still needs help, you can pm, and il try my best
post #15 of 64
nice!
post #16 of 64

So this Actually Works!!!

Thanks Tonnes!!!!

1st laptop - Dell wireless built in
2nd laptop - Panasonic Toughbook wireless PCMCIA card
3rd - Palm Tungsten C Hand held

Works like a dream!

Thanks Again!!:thumbup
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post #17 of 64
hehe, any tricks for ICS on windows 98?
post #18 of 64
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Originally Posted by OmniSoulz
hehe, any tricks for ICS on windows 98?
practicallynetworked.com has a good guide for setting up an ICS server on windows 98. Windows 98 has a more configurable ICS such as disabling of DHCP and assignment of different private IP address blocks. If your client has windows 98, Internet Gateway icon will show up when it detects ICS on the network - IE 6 is needed via windows update
post #19 of 64

What Wireless Routers do you recommend?

Nice Write Up...

A quick question... What Wireless Router do you recommend when using the Dialup wireless feature?

Thanks,
Gadgetman
post #20 of 64
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If you have to do it that way, I recommend that you use two routers: Get an older (don't believe they make them anymore) WIRED router that has a dial-up modem inside. And connect that router to a regular wireless router having the settings I described. This has the benefit of upgrading your wireless router in the future to better technology.
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