New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

8887 size comparison (raw)

post #1 of 18
2/3/03 at 4:01am
Thread Starter 
I've been contemplating hard (and ceaselessly letting my wife know the day of the laptop was coming) a purchase of either the 5660 or now, the 8887!!

I'm a real visiual person and unless I can hold comething in my hand or plot it on a sheet of paper I have a hard time understanding size. So I got out the good ole' slide rule and made myself a paper boxed replica of the 8887 acording to the dimensions on Sagernotebook.com. This thing is freakin huge!! There is no way you could confuse this thing with a machine you could actually and comfortably sit on your lap and use...hence it being a notebook computer and not a laptop.

Anyhow, wondering now about screen size. I understand that screens are measured diagonally. Well usually, of course depending on their manufacturer. What I'm wondering is when the spec says 16.1" or 15.7", is that actual viewable size? Or is this the screen border with a viewable size a bit smaller?

If it's actual, the 16.1 screen is actually just as large or larger then most 17" monitors out there. Talk about WOW factor! Not to mention it's UXGA comparrable in most ways to Dells. I'm waiting only long enough to see what quality the 16.1 UXGA is, (and tax returns) to make my move. But any insight you all could provide would be great!! Thanks.
Reply
Reply
post #2 of 18
2/3/03 at 4:13am

Re: 8887 size comparison (raw)

Quote:
Originally posted by McGRIFF
I've been contemplating hard (and ceaselessly letting my wife know the day of the laptop was coming) a purchase of either the 5660 or now, the 8887!!

I'm a real visiual person and unless I can hold comething in my hand or plot it on a sheet of paper I have a hard time understanding size. So I got out the good ole' slide rule and made myself a paper boxed replica of the 8887 acording to the dimensions on Sagernotebook.com. This thing is freakin huge!! There is no way you could confuse this thing with a machine you could actually and comfortably sit on your lap and use...hence it being a notebook computer and not a laptop.

Anyhow, wondering now about screen size. I understand that screens are measured diagonally. Well usually, of course depending on their manufacturer. What I'm wondering is when the spec says 16.1" or 15.7", is that actual viewable size? Or is this the screen border with a viewable size a bit smaller?

If it's actual, the 16.1 screen is actually just as large or larger then most 17" monitors out there. Talk about WOW factor! Not to mention it's UXGA comparrable in most ways to Dells. I'm waiting only long enough to see what quality the 16.1 UXGA is, (and tax returns) to make my move. But any insight you all could provide would be great!! Thanks.
The screen is "actually" 16.1 inches diagonally: meaning, it does not include the border. So yes, it is comparable to 17 and even 18-inch CRTs out there. When dealing with LCDs this is almost always the case. Only CRTs claim a screen size including the "edges."

On a separate note, if you don't mind me asking: Well, pardon my huge ignorance on the topic of taxes, but why does everyone keep mentioning that they are waiting for their tax returns before buying a laptop? What does that have to do with anything?

Cheers.
Reply
Reply
post #3 of 18
2/3/03 at 6:33am
Yeah, the 8887 is 16.1" the 8886 is 15.7"

I've never heard of the tax return complaint. *shrug*

Since the 8887 came out, I've been considering whether to wait about 3 or 4 months to get a 5660 with the m10 or to just get the 8887 now. So far....still on the 5660.
Reply
Reply
post #4 of 18
2/3/03 at 11:01am
People are waiting on their tax returns so they can have a good amount of expendable cash that they can use to buy big purchases (that is if you don't owe anything to the IRS), such as a laptop. That's why car dealerships always have those deals "file your taxes here and use your return as your down payment".
Reply
Reply
post #5 of 18
2/3/03 at 11:08am
Not everyone has $2000+ laying around to splurge on a laptop, and getting your own money back in the form of a check from the IRS gives you that extra available cash to spend
Reply
Reply
post #6 of 18
2/3/03 at 12:01pm

Re: 8887 size comparison (raw)

Quote:
Originally posted by McGRIFF
I'm a real visiual person and unless I can hold comething in my hand or plot it on a sheet of paper I have a hard time understanding size. So I got out the good ole' slide rule and made myself a paper boxed replica of the 8887 acording to the dimensions on Sagernotebook.com.
If you want a real comparo, go down to CompUSA or Best Buy. To see what a 5660 screen would look like, check out a Toshiba 5205-s703. It has a 15" UXGA screen. It should be virtually identical to a 5660 screen. Then look at a Sony Vaio GRX670 (I think). It has a 16.1" UXGA screen. It should look virtually identical (at least in size and resolution) to the new 8887-X screen.

- Stu
Reply
Reply
post #7 of 18
2/3/03 at 1:30pm

Re: Re: 8887 size comparison (raw)

Quote:
Originally posted by Yale2006
On a separate note, if you don't mind me asking: Well, pardon my huge ignorance on the topic of taxes, but why does everyone keep mentioning that they are waiting for their tax returns before buying a laptop? What does that have to do with anything?

Cheers. [/b]
You are kidding right? I'm not sure I understand your ignorance of the benifits of a tax return. Thats my once a year shopping spree! Being in the military, I don't really have a whole lot set aside to just buy a Sager on a whim (not to mention I get to clear things with the wife too!!!). Are you rich? If so could you buy me a Sager
Reply
Reply
post #8 of 18
2/3/03 at 1:31pm
Well Yale, you obviously have not had to work for a living yet. Tax return time is a BIG time in us working folks' life. I have two children now, my baby was born in january last year, so I get to claim her for the year on my taxes. I get back $3500 from the gov't this year. So yes, I am waiting for my tax check to buy my laptop. I make plenty of money, but most is already marked for bills, etc. I have a very strict budget.

So quite a large portion of my tax return money is going for my new 8887 or 5660.
Reply
Reply
post #9 of 18
2/3/03 at 1:42pm
Oooh... tax returns sound fun :-) I have not gotten to that point in my life, lol, but I can imagine the coolness of it.

As far as comparing screens at Best Buy, keep in mind that the model number on the toshiba one might not be the same as on the 5660... so, as was mentioned, it'll be a good comparison for size and resolution, but not necessarily for viewing angle, contrast, etc. Also, make certain that any screen you look at is set to native resolution :-)
Reply
Reply
post #10 of 18
2/3/03 at 2:14pm
Quote:
Originally posted by beebster83
Oooh... tax returns sound fun :-) I have not gotten to that point in my life, lol, but I can imagine the coolness of it.
Unless of course you owe money to the gov't every year when filing taxes...then it's not so much fun
Reply
Reply
post #11 of 18
2/3/03 at 2:19pm

I am an idiot.

Quote:
Originally posted by skot
People are waiting on their tax returns so they can have a good amount of expendable cash that they can use to buy big purchases (that is if you don't owe anything to the IRS), such as a laptop. That's why car dealerships always have those deals "file your taxes here and use your return as your down payment". Not everyone has $2000+ laying around to splurge on a laptop, and getting your own money back in the form of a check from the IRS gives you that extra available cash to spend
Quote:
Originally posted by Niphidius
You are kidding right? I'm not sure I understand your ignorance of the benifits of a tax return. Thats my once a year shopping spree! Being in the military, I don't really have a whole lot set aside to just buy a Sager on a whim (not to mention I get to clear things with the wife too!!!). Are you rich? If so could you buy me a Sager
Quote:
Originally posted by ITguyfromHELL
Well Yale, you obviously have not had to work for a living yet. Tax return time is a BIG time in us working folks' life. I have two children now, my baby was born in january last year, so I get to claim her for the year on my taxes. I get back $3500 from the gov't this year. So yes, I am waiting for my tax check to buy my laptop. I make plenty of money, but most is already marked for bills, etc. I have a very strict budget. So quite a large portion of my tax return money is going for my new 8887 or 5660.
Thanks! I can see how the whole thing works now. Well, sort of. I mean, why are you getting any money "back?" You pay your taxes for so-and-so, and you get certain exemptions if you meet certain qualifications. If indeed you deserve some sort of compensation (like the child example), why not just NOT pay the "return" amount in the first place? Doesn't it work out to the same thing? It's as if I paid the gov't 100 bucks and it gave me back 50. Why not just give it 50 in the first place?

Well, sorry about my ignorance, for yes, I am a spoiled brat.


Quote:
Originally posted by beebster83
Oooh... tax returns sound fun :-) I have not gotten to that point in my life, lol, but I can imagine the coolness of it.
Actually, I don't know about that. People sure as heck don't sound very happy about filing their taxes...

Hehehe. Cheers.
Reply
Reply
post #12 of 18
2/3/03 at 2:39pm
Well, of course filing your taxes is a huge pain in the rear (I think they really do write those tax codes to drive people insane). But the "tax return" you're getting is just the excess money you already sent them. If you don't claim enough exceptions then more is taken out of your paycheck each month than is needed so they give it back (or at least some of it....don't get me started ) after you file your taxes. I've been the lucky one this year, got married, changed jobs twice and the third place I worked was bought out in November, so I have quite a bit of fun tax filing to do.....
Reply
Reply
post #13 of 18
2/3/03 at 3:09pm

kinda

well, i kinda have...ill prolly get back enough to do a mobo upgrade (if it comes through) or my lappy painted, that is if COLORWARE gets a red color....man, if you have blue you just have to have red...
Reply
Reply
post #14 of 18
2/3/03 at 3:37pm
lol, my comment was sarcastic in nature :-) I do know the trouble my parents go through with that junk. But, I do get tax returns at the end of the year from when I work because I don't claim the exemptions... The thing is, theoretically, it is better to owe the money at the end because if you have the money for a year you can put it in the bank and get interest on it, THEN pay it and in that way make money on it before you give it up (since in this case you don't pay penalties on it or anything). Just make sure you don't invest that money recklessly and lose it :-)
Reply
Reply
post #15 of 18
2/3/03 at 3:54pm
Whether or not filing taxes is a pain in the *ss usually depends on how you manage your money as well. I know that if you trade a lot of stocks calculating gains/losses...etc is one HUGE pain in the *ss (moreso if you daytrade).
Reply
Reply
post #16 of 18
2/3/03 at 7:47pm
Since this is the 8887 size comparison post I thought I would ask if anyone know what the weight of the 8887 will be. Is it the same as 8886?
Reply
Reply
post #17 of 18
2/3/03 at 9:23pm
Weight, of course, depends on what options you get (ie: if the 2nd bay is empty, it'll weigh less than if it has a hard drive in it). The 8887 shouldn't weigh much more than the 8886 on average... The screen is bigger, but that means there's less plastic in the rim around the screen. Who knows which weighs more :-) Otherwise, a processor will weight about the same regardless if it's socket 478 and the extra RAM in the video card might weigh like .02 lbs :-) It's just a little silicon chip.
Reply
Reply
post #18 of 18
2/3/03 at 11:41pm
My main concern for additional weight was the larger screen but now that I think about it the screen itself is not very heavy.

thanks
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Sager & Clevo Notebooks