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post #121 of 565
1/30/06 at 12:25am
Good Job!!!
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post #122 of 565
1/30/06 at 1:05am
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Originally Posted by Hazridi
To clarify what it does, it lets you choose VID pins to ground and shows you the resulting voltages, for your processor and vid line input, and the entire table too.

Here's a screenshot:


This just made testing a WHOOOOLLLEEE lot easier. Thanks man, you are truely an asset to this forum after the BIOS modding and now this, I'll green you up tomorrow .

However, I still recommend that after you find the actual volts that you need you physically ground them so that you dont need that program running to make your CPU stable. You want your everything stable in the BIOS, DOS, and any other environment. The last thing you want is your windows install or BIOS flash crashing due to a flaky CPU .
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post #123 of 565
1/30/06 at 1:53am
That's exactly why I made this, I wanted to see what my exact voltages would be for the entire multiplier set so if I wasn't in Windows, my computer would still function fine.
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post #124 of 565
1/30/06 at 2:18am
Its just a program to show all the voltages - it doesn't actually change them, right?
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post #125 of 565
1/30/06 at 2:27am
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Originally Posted by Hazridi
That's exactly why I made this, I wanted to see what my exact voltages would be for the entire multiplier set so if I wasn't in Windows, my computer would still function fine.
Ahhh, wait a minute, so does it actually run the voltages or does it just list what they would be after grounding for each multiplier? (bah, G/H beat me to it )
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post #126 of 565
1/30/06 at 2:32am
It's just an info tool.. I didn't really want to write a driver. If someone had some docs on how to interface with speedstep I might consider it, but my classes are kinda harsh this semester.

I just hated the fact that no tool existed to show what voltage you were really running if you grounded some VID pins
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post #127 of 565
1/30/06 at 2:59am
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Originally Posted by Hazridi
It's just an info tool.. I didn't really want to write a driver. If someone had some docs on how to interface with speedstep I might consider it, but my classes are kinda harsh this semester.

I just hated the fact that no tool existed to show what voltage you were really running if you grounded some VID pins
Yah, no kidding, classes are taking away time from my modding too . Thanks very much though, this still saves me alot of trouble having to try to explain the charts in the first post to people, and it also allows them to figure out what they need to ground . Again, thanks alot and you're at least going full green .
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post #128 of 565
1/30/06 at 1:05pm
I wish someone would come up with a way to pinmod a 760
I'd like to get into modding, but don't wanna replace a 2GHz/533 cpu with a 1.8/400 cpu to do it.

I haven't modded anything in my 9300 yet, only OC the GPU to 370/770.
Nice to see that you all are having fun and results with these methods

Cheers
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post #129 of 565
1/30/06 at 2:58pm
mabey in a desktop
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post #130 of 565
1/30/06 at 6:28pm
what kind of voltage do you think id need to do "THE BIG ONE" (765)?
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post #131 of 565
1/31/06 at 12:40am
Ok. I posted also in the sticky up top, but I had a general question.

I PM'ed a 1.7->2.26. I also PM'ed VID0 and VID1 right off the bat, so I'm at 1.388v. Now, I'm running prime95, and my CPU temp is topping off at 53C, and the CPU fan is on high.. With the fan on low, it reaches around 59-60.

Now, using CHC, do I just try to find lower voltages that will allow me to run Prime95? And then, how do I test the lower speed setting? Change the power settings to Full Battery, and then retest using CHC voltages and Prime95?
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post #132 of 565
1/31/06 at 8:40am
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Ok, and you said that grounding VID0 and VID1 (E2 - E3 and F1 - F2), which would give you 1.388v, and it still wouldn't boot? Crap, that might mean you have a shitty chip. Try grounding VID0, VID1 and VID2 (to give you 1.452v) and see if you can boot. Lemme know how it goes .
I have done the mods you suggested. It shows 2.4GHz in bios, but still won't boot. I'm going to flip this chip back onto eBay (no one buy a used chip from Australia in the next week ) and get a new one...

Thanks for your help Mr. K
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post #133 of 565
1/31/06 at 1:02pm
EDIT: Removed post since I didn't see that the CPU was working.. Sorry about that Moses2000!!
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post #134 of 565
1/31/06 at 1:54pm
Whoa dude. First of all, by no means are the chips defective. They run fine at what they are designed to run (1.8ghz). There is absolutely nothing wrong with reselling it back on EBay as long as it is advertised as a working used 1.8ghz chip. Nowhere is there any sort of rule saying that a failed overclock = defective chip. YOU are the one doing the overclocking and voiding the warranty. Trying to return it to the seller and say its DEFECTIVE is highly immoral and if I was the seller, I would consider it as an attempt at fraud. Whether or not they will actually run at 2.4 is highly YMMV. So don't get pissed, if you wanted a new CPU, buy a NEW one, not a used one.
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post #135 of 565
1/31/06 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by prona
Whoa dude. First of all, by no means are the chips defective. They run fine at what they are designed to run (1.8ghz). There is absolutely nothing wrong with reselling it back on EBay as long as it is advertised as a working used 1.8ghz chip. Nowhere is there any sort of rule saying that a failed overclock = defective chip. YOU are the one doing the overclocking and voiding the warranty. Trying to return it to the seller and say its DEFECTIVE is highly immoral and if I was the seller, I would consider it as an attempt at fraud. Whether or not they will actually run at 2.4 is highly YMMV. So don't get pissed, if you wanted a new CPU, buy a NEW one, not a used one.
AMEN. When you buy a chip off eBay or any other marketplace for used parts, you are BUYING A 1.8GHz CHIP, NOT a 2.4GHz chip. You hope that you can get a good overclock out of it, but if you can't, you're still left with the 1.8GHz chip which you originally bought and there is nothing defective about it. As prona put it, trying to pawn off a chip that you bought by saying it is defective because it doesn't overclock as high as you want is, in fact, fraud and is a big nono . It is your duty as a buyer to research the part that you are buying, which is why I recommend buying a chip off a desktop user and getting some information on its capabilities BEFORE you buy it. You can't return a lottery ticket because you didn't win big .
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post #136 of 565
1/31/06 at 3:19pm
Hey.. Just wanted to say sorry both to Moses2000 and everyone else. I had read a few posts and thought that the CPU wouldn't boot the system at all! I just read back through and found that Moses2000 did in fact say that he was able to boot the system with it not pinmodded so I'm obviously an idiot here for not seeing this before.

Sorry about that!
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post #137 of 565
1/31/06 at 3:33pm
Again.. I missed post 117 where he said that the CPU did work without the pinmod. Ohh and yes I would agree that its immoral in attempting to return a working CPU as defective. The reason I was originally ticked off is because I bought 5 or 6 400Mhz CPUs off ebay and none of them worked with or without the mod in my laptop. I did finally buy from a seller who had sold to others here who'd had success and it worked. I thought Moses2000 was just going to flip back a bad CPU onto eBay which he wasn't.
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post #138 of 565
1/31/06 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Adrenolin
Again.. I missed post 117 where he said that the CPU did work without the pinmod. Ohh and yes I would agree that its immoral in attempting to return a working CPU as defective. The reason I was originally ticked off is because I bought 5 or 6 400Mhz CPUs off ebay and none of them worked with or without the mod in my laptop. I did finally buy from a seller who had sold to others here who'd had success and it worked. I thought Moses2000 was just going to flip back a bad CPU onto eBay which he wasn't.
Ahhh, no hard feelings then . A rep for you as soon as I recharge tonight . We just try to make sure that everyone is acting in a manner that is positive for the community
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post #139 of 565
1/31/06 at 6:05pm
Reps are cool .. I actually felt like an ass once I found the post where he said he booted fine without the mod. I still dont beleive I missed it the first time reading through. Ohh well..
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post #140 of 565
1/31/06 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by prona
Whoa dude. First of all, by no means are the chips defective. They run fine at what they are designed to run (1.8ghz). There is absolutely nothing wrong with reselling it back on EBay as long as it is advertised as a working used 1.8ghz chip. Nowhere is there any sort of rule saying that a failed overclock = defective chip. YOU are the one doing the overclocking and voiding the warranty. Trying to return it to the seller and say its DEFECTIVE is highly immoral and if I was the seller, I would consider it as an attempt at fraud. Whether or not they will actually run at 2.4 is highly YMMV. So don't get pissed, if you wanted a new CPU, buy a NEW one, not a used one.
Chill guys! I bought it as a used 1.8GHz chip and have not tried to send it back to the seller (I even gave him positive feedback last night - before you guys got on my case). I agree that it would be immoral to send it back (thank you for the reminder). Also, as a lawyer I know what fraud is (bold admission), and so never even considered sending it back.


Also, I am smart enough to know that the particular chip just may not have agreed with my motherboard or whatever - that is my problem, not the sellers. I take full responsibility for it working or not, as I knew from this thread and others that there was always a risk that it would not work. That is why, if you read my posting more carefully you would have realised that I am going to buy a new one and try again (with better luck I hope).

Anyway, I have resold the 1.8GHz chip on line already for what I paid for it. I made it very clear that it was used and that it works at 1.8GHz. It is not up to me to tell a buyer that I tried to overclock it but failed.

Here is to hoping I have more success with the next chip...
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