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post #201 of 565
2/9/06 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Ahhh, yes, 1.468v would be a problem for pin-modding . I think that you can make pins 1's by isolating them by either breaking them off or using glue. In either case, I dont recommend it as it can be very expensive if you screw up (especially on such a beautiful chip!).

nkhan, if you undervolt your 2.0 you'll have a cooler runnings CPU and a little more battery life. If you pin-mod, your CPU will run hotter as it won't be able to undervolt much if at all. I recommend that you just grab a 1.8 and go for the 1.8->2.4, with a little voltage modification, they seem to have the same sucess rate, if not better, than the 1.7->2.26 mods. If you can't see the pics, you're probably blocking images from non-originating sites, check your internet settings. If you still cant see them, just quote that post and copy and paste the links from the quoted text .

K6, I don't have a 1.8 cpu with me. I've got the 1.7 and I don't see much difference btw 1.7 @2.26 and 1.8@2.4 to justify buying a 1.8. So maybe it be a better idea to pin mod the 1.7 (for a cooler system) and put it in the GEN2 and then using the 2.0 in the D800 (as it will probably run cooler).

Let me know if I understood right. This way I don't have to buy the 1.8 and I get both systems running cooler (and possible better for OCing).

Thanks
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post #202 of 565
2/9/06 at 12:47am
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Originally Posted by nkhan
K6, I don't have a 1.8 cpu with me. I've got the 1.7 and I don't see much difference btw 1.7 @2.26 and 1.8@2.4 to justify buying a 1.8. So maybe it be a better idea to pin mod the 1.7 (for a cooler system) and put it in the GEN2 and then using the 2.0 in the D800 (as it will probably run cooler).

Let me know if I understood right. This way I don't have to buy the 1.8 and I get both systems running cooler (and possible better for OCing).

Thanks
I mentioned this in my last post in this thread, but apparently you didn't read it right.

The 2.0ghz CPU will not run at 2.0ghz in a D800. The D800 is a 400mhz FSB maximum computer, so purring a 533mhz FSB chip in there will lower the multiplier from 133 to 100; therefore running your 2.0 ghz chip at 1.5ghz. Unless you want that big of a performance loss in your D800, I wouldn't do it.

If you'd be willing to sell your 760 CPU you could probably get more for it than you could buy a 745 for; then do the pinmod and make a profit on an upgrade.
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post #203 of 565
2/9/06 at 1:12am
Thanks K6, you are a nice guy with respectable patience!
Yes, that's too risky and I think it's not a big issue to softmod voltage in Windows. And booting @ 1.596v is still within the core's tolerance I guess!
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post #204 of 565
2/9/06 at 2:24am
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Originally Posted by nkhan
K6, I don't have a 1.8 cpu with me. I've got the 1.7 and I don't see much difference btw 1.7 @2.26 and 1.8@2.4 to justify buying a 1.8. So maybe it be a better idea to pin mod the 1.7 (for a cooler system) and put it in the GEN2 and then using the 2.0 in the D800 (as it will probably run cooler).

Let me know if I understood right. This way I don't have to buy the 1.8 and I get both systems running cooler (and possible better for OCing).

Thanks
Ahh, well in that case you could try it, but definitely take into consideration the points that mZimm made. If you dont need alot of performance out of your D800, slap that 760 in it and undervolt the sucker down to nothing

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Originally Posted by azure
Thanks K6, you are a nice guy with respectable patience!
Yes, that's too risky and I think it's not a big issue to softmod voltage in Windows. And booting @ 1.596v is still within the core's tolerance I guess!
No problem . Besides, for the most part, I don't see you heavily stressing your CPU in non-windows environments, so it should stay at low voltage. Also, make sure that you set your low voltage to .956v to run a little cooler than stock .988v (every bit helps ).
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post #205 of 565
2/9/06 at 2:43am
Ok here is my noob questions for the day. Ok so i want to purchase a 1.7 or a 1.8 .... If i do this all i need to do is put a piece of wire in the two circled slots on the first page? and maybe mess with the voltage if its unstable?
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post #206 of 565
2/9/06 at 2:59am
Yeah I already set the low to 0.7+0.256
Thank you for your suggestions!
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post #207 of 565
2/9/06 at 3:12am
Q #1 Is the 1.7 Success rate high
Q #2 will i notice a huge diffrence in games/desktop performance going from
a 1.73 to a 1.7@2.26
Q #3 Does a 1.7@2.26 perform the same as a authentic 2.26 533fsb
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post #208 of 565
2/9/06 at 3:15am
answer 1: pretty high but ymmv
answer 2: yes, you will
answer 3: yes, performance is identical
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post #209 of 565
2/9/06 at 3:33am
thanks man rep for you!
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post #210 of 565
2/9/06 at 11:02am
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thanks man rep for you!
man how are you going to list mods in you sig that you dont have yet? that is lame
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post #211 of 565
2/9/06 at 2:21pm
stfu noob i have everything else and the proc is already puchased. just not installed.
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post #212 of 565
2/9/06 at 11:43pm

PinModding in progress

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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Ahhh, yes, 1.468v would be a problem for pin-modding . I think that you can make pins 1's by isolating them by either breaking them off or using glue. In either case, I dont recommend it as it can be very expensive if you screw up (especially on such a beautiful chip!).

nkhan, if you undervolt your 2.0 you'll have a cooler runnings CPU and a little more battery life. If you pin-mod, your CPU will run hotter as it won't be able to undervolt much if at all. I recommend that you just grab a 1.8 and go for the 1.8->2.4, with a little voltage modification, they seem to have the same sucess rate, if not better, than the 1.7->2.26 mods. If you can't see the pics, you're probably blocking images from non-originating sites, check your internet settings. If you still cant see them, just quote that post and copy and paste the links from the quoted text .

K6, I'm really not counting on much performance from the D800 and for now an undervolted 2.0 (running at 1.5) will be just fine. Infact, that'll be great cause the system heats up with the 9600 Ati pro (modded).

Anyway, I grounded vid 0 and vid 1 and put the 1.7 Ghz Doltan in the GEN2. Ran CPU-Z and it's showing 1.324 volts. Looking at the chart (if i've understood anything), I think I'm at 1.260 Volts. Correct?

I've left it to run Prime95 (torture Test and Large FFT).

Btw. I've left the system open (for max air exposure) and ofcourse, AS5ed the CPU (without pads). Temp are currently (15 mins into Prime95) 53 for the CPU.

Will Post when it fails. Let me know if I've missed anything?

Thanks
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post #213 of 565
2/9/06 at 11:59pm
If you ground any pins, volt readers are not going to work properly and you should use the table or my truevolt program to see if you're actually running at what you think you are.
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post #214 of 565
2/10/06 at 1:08am
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Originally Posted by Hazridi
If you ground any pins, volt readers are not going to work properly and you should use the table or my truevolt program to see if you're actually running at what you think you are.
With VID 0 and VID 1 grounded and stock at 1.324 Volts, I think according to the chart I'm effectively at 1.260 Volts (11100). Correct?

k6, as you suggested, I'm going to undervolt the 2.0 (760) that'll go in the D800. I don't care about the preformance drop, I just want it running cooler. Can this be done with pinmodding or am I just to use Software? I need some help starting of.

Should I just slip the 2.0 in the D800 and run Prime95 to test stablility?
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post #215 of 565
2/10/06 at 1:41am
Well guys I had initially got a 1.7 and pined it to 2.26 but considering the success people have been having with 1.8 I had to try it. The 2.0 are just to expensive and I got the 1.8 for 150 which is not bad at all. Anyway I got lucky and my 1.8 booted right up at 2.4 with no problems. Put it through the ringer at it is stable at stock voltages. Idle the cpu is 34 and load 55 with stock voltages.
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post #216 of 565
2/10/06 at 2:11am
That's a good chip!
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post #217 of 565
2/10/06 at 2:31am
ok so i got my 1.7... so my question is all i have to do is put the pin in the circled slots in the picture on the first post?
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post #218 of 565
2/10/06 at 2:36am
Yes, but be careful how you handle it. i got finger oil on mine and it didn't work the first time - I mean the natural oil on our fingers not 10w40
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post #219 of 565
2/10/06 at 4:20am
Mine worked okay with any finger oil there was on it. I used a usb cable's shielding wire, from a xbox controller I modded to USB.

The 735 (1.7) has stock 1.340 for most chips, if it's Line B then it's stock 1.324 and your pinmod of VID0 and VID1 is upping the voltage to 1.340.
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post #220 of 565
2/10/06 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by Hazridi
Mine worked okay with any finger oil there was on it. I used a usb cable's shielding wire, from a xbox controller I modded to USB.

The 735 (1.7) has stock 1.340 for most chips, if it's Line B then it's stock 1.324 and your pinmod of VID0 and VID1 is upping the voltage to 1.340.
So, my pinmod has not done anything to help but increase the voltage?

UPDATE: I've run Prime95 for 10 hours and not errors or crashes so far. So what's the next step. Should I try grounding Vid 0 and Vid 2 or am i done pinmodding?

Sorry, I'm confused???
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