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post #221 of 565
DAMN its hard to get that pin in!!!.... did you guys use needle nose?
post #222 of 565
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Originally Posted by nkhan
So, my pinmod has not done anything to help but increase the voltage?

UPDATE: I've run Prime95 for 10 hours and not errors or crashes so far. So what's the next step. Should I try grounding Vid 0 and Vid 2 or am i done pinmodding?

Sorry, I'm confused???
Your done vid 0 vid 2 is if you need more power
post #223 of 565
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Originally Posted by srtjustin
DAMN its hard to get that pin in!!!.... did you guys use needle nose?
I used tweezers :P
post #224 of 565
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nkhan, replied to your PM, but 10 hours is sufficient. Play some games and make sure you're good. I would remove those pin mods though as they do nothing (VID0 and VID1 are already 0's at 1.324v), that way you can use an undervolting program to undervolt your 6x multiplier down to .700v . Seems like you got a really good chip.
Also, same to you snooz, fantastic chip there too . Make sure that you prime95 that sucker so that you can be sure it's stable.
srtjustin, yes, it's damn tiny . Just bridge C15 and C16 and see if you can boot up. If you can, prime95 it to see how stable you are. If prime does fail within 12 hours, lemme know when and I'll help you calculate what voltage and pin-mod(s) you need to do .

Looking great guys, I can't believe how many people are pin-modding and getting some kick ass performance; gotta love the tweaks .
post #225 of 565
So far so good on the 1.7@2.26 it idles at 29c and ive been running prim95 for like 10mins and im at 54c so far thanks for all the help guys!!

P.S. voltage is 1.340 according to CHC i think thats good?
post #226 of 565
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Originally Posted by srtjustin
So far so good on the 1.7@2.26 it idles at 29c and ive been running prim95 for like 10mins and im at 54c so far thanks for all the help guys!!

P.S. voltage is 1.340 according to CHC i think thats good?
See how long it runs, if you get over 12 hours, consider it stable . And yes, 1.340v is stock volts, which is great if you can get it stable there.
post #227 of 565
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Originally Posted by srtjustin
DAMN its hard to get that pin in!!!.... did you guys use needle nose?
I used the tips of 2 very sharp and pointy pocket knives one in each hand. I've done this about 13 or 14 times and found it much easiler then even using needlenose pliers or tweezers.
post #228 of 565
great guide
post #229 of 565
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
nkhan, replied to your PM, but 10 hours is sufficient. Play some games and make sure you're good. I would remove those pin mods though as they do nothing (VID0 and VID1 are already 0's at 1.324v), that way you can use an undervolting program to undervolt your 6x multiplier down to .700v . Seems like you got a really good chip.
K6, Ok after 17 hours of Prime95 (with Vid0, VId1 mod), I did as you asked. Removed the two pins and tested (without any undervolting). Fangui shows the following highs (add 5 degrees).

3DMark05 full settings 3683 temps (CPU=59, GPU=71)
3DMark05 default 6464 (CPU=58, GPU=71)
3DMark06 full settings 2647 (CPU=59, GPU=74)
3DMark05 100x (1900x1200, AAx4) (CPU=53, GPU=96)
RHDRIBL + PRIME95 (half hour) (CPU=57, GPU=82)
FEAR (half hour) (CPU=57, GPU=89)
COD2 (1 hour) (CPU=59, GPU=76)

K6, Wondering if my GPU Temps are still a bit to high (compared to your temps). Let me know and I'll improve the AS5ing a bit.

Now I'll use RMClock 2.0 to undervolt my 6x multiplier down to .700v and retest. Or should I stick to ver 1.5?

Question: Once I establish my lowest stable volts, is there a way to use pins to modify it permanently (i mean without software)?

Thanks your all the help.
post #230 of 565
2 hours of prime95 error free at 49c w00t... ill run it overnight tonight!
post #231 of 565
SW33T..... my games play soo much better now wOOt
post #232 of 565
8 hours and running Prime95 without errors @ 2.26Ghz 1.340 Voltage
post #233 of 565
Thread Starter 
nkhan - Everything looks great, 17 hours means you're golden . Your temps also look fine, I think that they are right on the money, just always make sure to keep an eye on them. My card can still get up to 95C, 100C if my room is really hot, while playing FEAR, so I wouldnt worry. Also, I think you have to leave RMClock running to enable the voltage request; I believe the program simply requests the alternative voltage in real time, and unfortunately, pin mods do not allow you to lower your voltage enough (while still retaining stock volts for your high multiplier).

srtjustin - Looks like you have a great chip too . Go to 12 hours and you're good, glad it worked out for you .
post #234 of 565
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
nkhan, replied to your PM, but 10 hours is sufficient. Play some games and make sure you're good. I would remove those pin mods though as they do nothing (VID0 and VID1 are already 0's at 1.324v), that way you can use an undervolting program to undervolt your 6x multiplier down to .700v . Seems like you got a really good chip.
Also, same to you snooz, fantastic chip there too . Make sure that you prime95 that sucker so that you can be sure it's stable.
srtjustin, yes, it's damn tiny . Just bridge C15 and C16 and see if you can boot up. If you can, prime95 it to see how stable you are. If prime does fail within 12 hours, lemme know when and I'll help you calculate what voltage and pin-mod(s) you need to do .

Looking great guys, I can't believe how many people are pin-modding and getting some kick ass performance; gotta love the tweaks .
I ran prime95 and it would fail pretty quick. I could run games just fine with an occasional memory error. I am trying vid0 vid1 right now and it is looking good so far. CPU-Z is not showing 1.38 though it still shows 1.34. I know the volt mod worked because prime is getting further now.
post #235 of 565
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
nkhan - Everything looks great, 17 hours means you're golden . Your temps also look fine, I think that they are right on the money, just always make sure to keep an eye on them. My card can still get up to 95C, 100C if my room is really hot, while playing FEAR, so I wouldnt worry. Also, I think you have to leave RMClock running to enable the voltage request; I believe the program simply requests the alternative voltage in real time, and unfortunately, pin mods do not allow you to lower your voltage enough (while still retaining stock volts for your high multiplier).
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I thought the pinmod was to fool the chipset into think you've got a CPU running at 533 FBS. If i remove the pins, won't the 1.7 run at 400 only? I'm not sure if i understand the benefit of removing the pins/or pinmoding?
post #236 of 565
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Originally Posted by LeeHuff
Hey Guys. I have not done a pin mod yet, but I did decide to try and get used to using Prime 95, I9kfanGUI, and RMClock. Right now I am running Prime95 and it has only been testing for about 15 min and my CPU temp is at 81C. This seems really high for a unmodified laptop. The only upgrade that has been done is 2Gig of RAM. I would not think that that would make a temp increase. Should I stop it? The fans are both on high. This has me concerned. I was wondering if i should just aply AS5 to the current processor befor I try a pen mod 1.8? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
New updated! I took my laptop apart and found lots of dust around the fans. Man I can't beleave how much dust built up in just a few months. Now my CPU temps max out at 67C running Prime 95. Thats everything still stock at this moment. Man what a difference. New tip for everyone, CLEAN YOUR FANS! I will soon do the pinmod once I get the processor.
post #237 of 565
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Originally Posted by LeeHuff
New updated! I took my laptop apart and found lots of dust around the fans. Man I can't beleave how much dust built up in just a few months. Now my CPU temps max out at 67C running Prime 95. Thats everything still stock at this moment. Man what a difference. New tip for everyone, CLEAN YOUR FANS! I will soon do the pinmod once I get the processor.
67 C, Stock processor? No overclocking? That's terrible. My cpu idled around 28C and loaded at like 45 C prepinmod
post #238 of 565
Okay guys need a little help! Just last night I received my brand new Pentium M 745 from newegg. First I installed it with just the pinmod to think its a 533, booted up in windows just fine, showed it was a 2.4. Ran prime95 and it lasted 15min. So, I thought time to do some voltage pinmods. Started off with Vid0 & Vid2 (1.420), and it lasted about 8min on Prime. I know it should have lasted longer but it didn't. Next I tried Vid1 & Vid2 (1.436) with the same result. And lastly I tried Vid0, Vid1, & Vid2 (1.452) and still that only lasted 12min or so. Temps never went over 62C during all testing with AS5. All the little wires looked good before processor install and removal. My questions are is it possible that I have a bad overclocker? What voltage should I try next? Any Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
post #239 of 565
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Originally Posted by LeeHuff
Okay guys need a little help! Just last night I received my brand new Pentium M 745 from newegg. First I installed it with just the pinmod to think its a 533, booted up in windows just fine, showed it was a 2.4. Ran prime95 and it lasted 15min. So, I thought time to do some voltage pinmods. Started off with Vid0 & Vid2 (1.420), and it lasted about 8min on Prime. I know it should have lasted longer but it didn't. Next I tried Vid1 & Vid2 (1.436) with the same result. And lastly I tried Vid0, Vid1, & Vid2 (1.452) and still that only lasted 12min or so. Temps never went over 62C during all testing with AS5. All the little wires looked good before processor install and removal. My questions are is it possible that I have a bad overclocker? What voltage should I try next? Any Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Yeah sounds like you have a bad overclocker according to prime95. I know a lot of people want their system to be perfectly stable but be practical. If you plan on browsing the internet and playing games as long as it is stable in there who cares about prime. I suggest you just try it out and see if everything is stable in your games etc. My cpu bombed very quickly with no volt mods in prime95 and I would get memory errors in Fable. I tried vid0 vid1 and have had no problems since. Personally I could care less what prime95 says.
post #240 of 565
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Originally Posted by nkhan
I thought the pinmod was to fool the chipset into think you've got a CPU running at 533 FBS. If i remove the pins, won't the 1.7 run at 400 only? I'm not sure if i understand the benefit of removing the pins/or pinmoding?
Sorry, I should have clarified. I meant that you should remove the VID0 and VID1 pins (leave BSEL0 in so that you're still running at 2.26GHz). Due to your stock voltage being 1.324v, grounding those VID pins does nothing because they are already grounded via voltage requests by the CPU. Having no VID pins grounded allows you to select the full range of voltages for underclocking your CPU.

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Originally Posted by LeeHuff
Okay guys need a little help! Just last night I received my brand new Pentium M 745 from newegg. First I installed it with just the pinmod to think its a 533, booted up in windows just fine, showed it was a 2.4. Ran prime95 and it lasted 15min. So, I thought time to do some voltage pinmods. Started off with Vid0 & Vid2 (1.420), and it lasted about 8min on Prime. I know it should have lasted longer but it didn't. Next I tried Vid1 & Vid2 (1.436) with the same result. And lastly I tried Vid0, Vid1, & Vid2 (1.452) and still that only lasted 12min or so. Temps never went over 62C during all testing with AS5. All the little wires looked good before processor install and removal. My questions are is it possible that I have a bad overclocker? What voltage should I try next? Any Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
What is your stock voltage for the CPU? The pins that you need to ground are completely dependent on what your stock voltage is.

Finally, prime95 is very good in predicting stability. It puts so much stress on the CPU that few other programs come close. While many can say "oh it's rubbish, I've never crased yet and it said I was unstable," they might have CPUs that just haven't been stressed enough yet. Running or even counting on hardware that is unstable really isn't the best of computing habits. That's why I recommend stress testing completely and always adding the extra voltage and sacrificing a fraction of a degree C load temp.
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