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post #41 of 565
Oh but you're wrong. By saying that you are already part of the "eXtrEmE wussy n00b" team. Hehe, I'm kidding. Really, there's no big harm in going up to 1.4xx volts. Unless you forgot to tighten the heatsink or apply thermal paste, your temps should be wayyyyy wayyy lower than threshold.

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Originally Posted by JaxChris
First one that burns out their CPU doing this I'm sending a toaster to! hahaha

(Have fun... I'll be no part of "extreme" anything with a laptop)
post #42 of 565
If we were dealing with a desktop and had room for improved cooling solutions I would agree with you and join in. Hell I got my old Radeon7000 to play everything for years... but Doom3 demo was the final straw that killed that card. So I don't mind extreme overclocks.... but there's no point to push your luck on a laptop. I want the laptop to live longer than my constantly changing desktops. And looking at what K6 is saying to people I think he's going to get some actual noobs to convinced they can do it themselves and they'll end up without a CPU and possibly a socket because they're going to get too playful with the voltage.
post #43 of 565
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaxChris
First one that burns out their CPU doing this I'm sending a toaster to! hahaha
(Have fun... I'll be no part of "extreme" anything with a laptop)
wimp.

Honestly guys, I dont recommend doing this unless you're an experienced overclocker and understand volt modding to the fullest. icepik, I'll help you out but beware that this is an extremely delicate process and you really shouldnt attempt it if you are the least bit uncomfotable with it and/or concerned with the welfare of/money invested in your laptop.

THe actually voltage needed all depends on alot of calculation, so what you need to do icepik is when you get your 1.8 is install it without the pin-mod, boot up, and see what your stock volts are and try prime95 testing it. (I dont recommend putting your laptop back together, see the pic in the first post to see how I leave mine while testing). From there give me the data and I can help you out. Basically, grounding VID3 gives you a slight voltage boost (up to 1.452v) and modding VID4 gives you some insane voltage (up to 1.6v+, which I dont recommend).
post #44 of 565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. K6
You can alter any of them VID0 through VID5. I altered VID3 and that's what'd been doing it for me. You get a great selection of high range (1.340v->1.452v) and low range too.
is altering different from grounding. please excuse my noobness, but I dont have my laptop with me, so I can't experiment.
post #45 of 565
Thread Starter 
Yah, altering is the same as grounding.
post #46 of 565

Thanks Mr.K6

ok, first off to let u know, im A+ certidied and repair Toshiba/compaq/hp/sony etc laptops and desktops under warranty, so I am familiar with all of this But the pin mod part, and voltage increase. I know about OC'ing desktops, and well my 6800 go is overclocked as we speak(can't wait to put some thermal grease on this sucker and crank her up). So I mean, i'm about as ready to do this as almost anyone doing it for their first time and I am very confident aswell.

ill do what u said there, my 1.8 should be in by friday when i get back home and that's when I'll post my specs.

Before it comes though, I need to know what type of wire I need, aluminum, copper etc. and I gotta think of how thick it has to be too. I got my arctic silver 5 already.

And once i install my 1.8 will my custom voltages from my 1.73 be adjusted to the 1.8 default in the program CHC? or maybe I should just uninstall it and reinstall to be safe?

I think that's it for now, I will keep u all posted.

Thanks,

icepik_69
post #47 of 565
Thread Starter 
lol, holy s***, you're more qualified than I am
Ok, what I used is copper wire from my PC speakers. Basically, it's a 7.1 surround set with 30ft. long wires, so I thought 1/4" from one of them wouldnt matter . The wire is made up of strands wound together, and one strand is pretty damn thin, I'd say like a thick piece of hair. You have to work it in a warm place as to not snap it, but if fits perfectly into the pin holes. As an alternative, and I've used it before, use the copper wire from a telephone cord. This is a little thicker and easier to use, but it's a tighter fit getting the CPU in over it. However, it still works. In either case, copper worked very well for me. As far as CHC went, I uninstalled the sucker just to make sure . Now my 1.8 booted into windows fine, but was only about 15 min prime95 stable, so it'd crash after a bit in any 3D application. What I did is ground VID3 along with the pin-mod. If you look at the voltage chart in the first post, you'll see that this gives a range of 1.452v to 1.340v over the stock 1.340v. Turns out I'm 100% stable at 1.388v, so I only needed a little boost. What I do to get that is select 1.260v in RM clock, but since VID3 is grounded (a zero) it gives me 1.388v (see chart). The benefit of this is I got the little voltage I needed. The bad part is that if the CPU still requests 1.340v, that's all it'll get. So, at boot up I'm technically unstable until RMClock kicks in. The other downside is that when the CPU goes from 800MHz to 2400MHz, there's a split second where the CPU will natively request 1.340v before RMClock makes it request 1.260v (1.388v effective). This isnt normally a problem, but if it does it mid game, sometimes I'll crash. To counter this, I just select maximal before I enter a game. Now if your 1.8 WONT boot at all, then you'll have to bump it up a notch and ground VID2. Now this will allow you to boot at 1.404v. I'll probably end up doing that myself tomorrow just so I dont have to deal with changing the CPU to maximal nonstop. This will send a little more voltage to the CPU, but not enough to make much of a difference temp wise. Anyway, lemme know how it goes

P.S.- I gotta thank prona for the discussion on this. It gave me some more insight and allowed me to retest some settings to really get a grasp on how to fine tune this stuff.
post #48 of 565
but, you said ur stock voltage is 1.34 rite? then by the chart, you technically have done nothing to your cpu, i think a dude brought it up earlier. to get 1.452 then u would have to ground VID(1) and VID(2) because u are going from 1.340 to 1.452 rite? jebus im confused, help a n00b out plz lol
post #49 of 565
Thread Starter 
lol, no worries, we all once were. Look at the chart. Whatever you ground is always a 0, no matter what voltage you request. So, to find a voltage, all you do is look at the voltage you are requesting and then add in the 0s to get the actual voltage. For example, I just rearranged my pin mod tonight so that I have VID 0 and VID 1 grounded. At the stock 1.340v, that gives me 1.388v , so technically I dont even need an undervolting program to get the correct voltage. Now, my CPU will always be stable . Even more so, I can now select .748v as my low end voltage, and keep this CPU really cool . Hope that helped.
post #50 of 565
yessss! i think i got it now, i just got a 745 on ebay for dirt cheap today and if my core needs overvolting i can do it now w00t! thanks alot
post #51 of 565
Man, where are you finding all of these deals? I can't find any cpus that are cheap enough for me to risk killing...
post #52 of 565
i got mine for 110 bux on ebay
post #53 of 565
Damn, I've been looking for 745s on ebay for like a month now. All of them I've seen have been going for more than $150. How the hell did you get one for $110?
post #54 of 565
i searched for keywords that i figured that people wouldnt normally use for the processor like "1.8ghz" and "pentium m" while searching the TITLE AND DESCRIPTION and sure enuff i found one for 100 bux and 10 shipping with NO BIDS!!! I jumped rite on it, it was OEM and new which makes the odds better for a nicer pinmod, at least what i have observed from people's results
post #55 of 565
Thread Starter 
Wow, nice price kwondo. I had to pay $160 for mine, but I knew it was a good chip so I thought it was worth it .
post #56 of 565
I remember reading somewhere about how the newer the chip, the better it can o/c. So I guess you'd have to find the batch number / year?
post #57 of 565
I know these chips are not new, but eBay has a bunch of used chips listed as item 6839843070 for US $119.88.
post #58 of 565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moses2000
I know these chips are not new, but eBay has a bunch of used chips listed as item 6839843070 for US $119.88.
Needless to say, that's a really good deal if anybody is looking to ge a 745.
post #59 of 565
ehh.. I'm leary on new sellers like this. Only 18 feedback and has been selling for only 2 weeks. His prior items were e-books and sweaters. Has a No Return policy on USED items under his Guarantee.
post #60 of 565

Any suggestions?

Hey Mr. k i just ordered a 1.6 from ebay so I wouldn't have to do any volt moding, and it turns out they sent me a 1.8! I am able to boot up windows with it, but i can't run and 3d applications, any suggestions? I tried grounding vid 0 and vid 1, it froze during the cpu test in 3dmark05.
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