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post #501 of 565
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Originally Posted by TomahawkBR
It is a samsung ddr2 533 pc4200. I forgot to say but my note only works with max memory clock of 400mhz, even when I was with the 740 working at 133mhz fsb.

Should I run memtest with the pin mod on or something like that?

Thnx
In that case, your RAM can handle 533MHz so it should be find. Definitely run memtest though just to see if you can take the memory out of the picture for good.
post #502 of 565
Quick Update: Seems my "new" 1.8 at 2.4 Ghz XPS M170 at 1.404v worked out pretty good. No errors or anything since I installed it with correct Volt PinMod. I ran a couple more PRIME95 runs, never crashes. No lockups. Amazing. Now I don't feel so bad not having the Core Dual as much. It's amazingly fast!
post #503 of 565
I found a solution to TomahawkBR Inspiron B130 Pin Mod Problem.

Link
post #504 of 565
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Originally Posted by dlinkin
I found a solution to TomahawkBR Inspiron B130 Pin Mod Problem.

Link
Thankz but there is no need of 667mhz mem man. =P You misunderstood that guy. This is VERY strange... WTF that thing doesn´t work?? ?=/

I updated the bios to the last version and... DIDN´T WORK AGAIN. And I can run prime without problems with this damn pin mod too... (the wires are in the socket now)

Gonna try use the oldest bios.

I am sad... Ó.ò Help me! Help me! Help me! /o\

Bye ppl.
post #505 of 565
I have a P-M 1.8Ghz 400Mhz FSB that should do 2.4Ghz Ghx 533Mhz FSB at 1.436v. What exactly shhould I do? Turn 1s into 0s? Some 0s should be turned in 1s though!

I'm a bit lost!
post #506 of 565
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Originally Posted by MonarchX
I have a P-M 1.8Ghz 400Mhz FSB that should do 2.4Ghz Ghx 533Mhz FSB at 1.436v. What exactly shhould I do? Turn 1s into 0s? Some 0s should be turned in 1s though!

I'm a bit lost!
Ok, try grounding vid0 and vid2. That requires a pin in E2-E3, and one from F3-F4. Hopefully that will work for ya
post #507 of 565
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Originally Posted by sublime_jl
Ok, try grounding vid0 and vid2. That requires a pin in E2-E3, and one from F3-F4. Hopefully that will work for ya
Not quite. Assuming that his stock voltage is 1.340V (many are_, he'll need to ground VID1 and VID2 to get 1.436V. First find out your stock voltage. If your stock voltage is 1.340V, then ground F1-F2 and F3-F4 and you should be good to go.
post #508 of 565
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Not quite. Assuming that his stock voltage is 1.340V (many are_, he'll need to ground VID1 and VID2 to get 1.436V. First find out your stock voltage. If your stock voltage is 1.340V, then ground F1-F2 and F3-F4 and you should be good to go.
Neither worked. I get the same problem - black screen with lower dash blinking top left corner!
post #509 of 565
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Boot without the pin mod installed (so that you're at 1.8GHz) so that you can find out what your stock voltage is .
post #510 of 565
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Boot without the pin mod installed (so that you're at 1.8GHz) so that you can find out what your stock voltage is .

I'm about to try and overvolt my cpu (1.6 >> 2.1). Currently with the pinmod running I can switch to "Max Performance" in NHC for about 5 minutes before my pc hard resets. Setting NHC to "dynamic switching" and lowering the maximum multiplier to x16 fixes any crashes but obviously I'm not getting the full benefit of the of the overclock/pinmod.

The problem is that I'm trying to minimise the number of times I have to take my laptop apart, remove the cpu and stick little bits of wire in the holes. Isn't it possible for anyone to tell me/guess what the stock voltage would be, given that my cpu is a 400mhz fsb / 1.6ghz pentium M? Isn't it a standard stock voltage?

And taking into account that I don't really want to be fiddling with this for hours (although I accept that I might have to!) what's generally the best overvolt setting to use for my cpu? Excuse my n00bness - I'm not very technically minded / experienced but I really want to get my laptop working at it's fastest speed if possible so any help is really appreciated! Thanks!
post #511 of 565
where would i look to find a suitable CPU to do a pinmod. i am interested in the 755 (2.0GHz) -> 2.66GHz but i supose the 745 (1.8GHz) -> 2.4GHz is more realistic.

thanks.
post #512 of 565
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Originally Posted by MiL0
I'm about to try and overvolt my cpu (1.6 >> 2.1). Currently with the pinmod running I can switch to "Max Performance" in NHC for about 5 minutes before my pc hard resets. Setting NHC to "dynamic switching" and lowering the maximum multiplier to x16 fixes any crashes but obviously I'm not getting the full benefit of the of the overclock/pinmod.

The problem is that I'm trying to minimise the number of times I have to take my laptop apart, remove the cpu and stick little bits of wire in the holes. Isn't it possible for anyone to tell me/guess what the stock voltage would be, given that my cpu is a 400mhz fsb / 1.6ghz pentium M? Isn't it a standard stock voltage?

And taking into account that I don't really want to be fiddling with this for hours (although I accept that I might have to!) what's generally the best overvolt setting to use for my cpu? Excuse my n00bness - I'm not very technically minded / experienced but I really want to get my laptop working at it's fastest speed if possible so any help is really appreciated! Thanks!
Well, I need a bit more clarification? Generall, a 1.6GHz FSB needs absolutely no voltage to pin-mod, check to make sure you hit the right pins. Also, what do you mean by "dropping" the multiplier to 16? A 1.6GHz CPU has a 16x mulitplier. Sorry, I'm just trying to clarify what chip you're using.

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Originally Posted by Pine Sol
where would i look to find a suitable CPU to do a pinmod. i am interested in the 755 (2.0GHz) -> 2.66GHz but i supose the 745 (1.8GHz) -> 2.4GHz is more realistic.

thanks.
eBay, forums, local. There was a fellow on eBay that sold 755's guaranteed to do 2.66GHz, but they were ~$400 and not worth it IMHO. At this stage of the game, if you're paying more than $150 for a 745, look elsewhere.
post #513 of 565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Well, I need a bit more clarification? Generall, a 1.6GHz FSB needs absolutely no voltage to pin-mod, check to make sure you hit the right pins. Also, what do you mean by "dropping" the multiplier to 16? A 1.6GHz CPU has a 16x mulitplier. Sorry, I'm just trying to clarify what chip you're using.

Sorry I meant that I dropped the "max multiplier" to x14 on the CPU Speed tab in NHC. If I switch NHC to "Max Performance" (x16) it'll hard reset my pc pretty quickly once the cpu hits 100% load. Maybe I've got a bad 1.6ghz centrino cpu? Anyway, I'd rather not do the voltage mod but it seems like the only way to get it stable... thoughts?


thanks for replying btw


edit - I should point out that I use my i9300 solely for music production. With Cubase SX it's VERY easy to operate a computer at 90% and above cpu loads for long periods of time. This is when my laptop will hard reset itself if I switch NHC to "Max Performace". I don't think this should make any difference - I guessed with audio and video production / editing you're stressing the cpu in exactly the same way as you'd stress the cpu when playing BF2 or something...
post #514 of 565
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In comparison, production is even more stressful than gaming, so stability is a must . In no way do I mean to insult your abilities with computers nor your experience, but I just want to ask some basic questions to make sure that other variables have been eliminated. First, are you sure you joined C15 and C16? Try switching it to C16 and B16 and see if it makes a difference (sometimes some groundings dont get a good signal). Are you on maximum voltage in NHC? What is the maximum (stock) voltage allowed for you chip? What are your temps like? Did you use AS5 on the CPU? Did you re-use the original thermal sticker (major problem right there)? Is your memory stable (try memtest+ from www.memtest.org )? How's your ATiX300 holding up and is it overclocked? Have you changed any drivers recently? Do you get a blue screen of death (BSOD) or does your comptuer just reboot? If it gets a blue screen of death, what is the message you get with it?

Sorry, that's a lot of questions, but it'll really help me pin-point (no pun intended ) the problem. It's just that I've NEVER seen a 1.6 that wouldn't mod to 2.13GHz, so I have an inkling that something else is up. Answer those and we'll see what the next step is .
post #515 of 565
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
In comparison, production is even more stressful than gaming, so stability is a must . In no way do I mean to insult your abilities with computers nor your experience, but I just want to ask some basic questions to make sure that other variables have been eliminated.
No worries - far from insulted.. VERY thankful that you're taking the time to help me!

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First, are you sure you joined C15 and C16? Try switching it to C16 and B16 and see if it makes a difference (sometimes some groundings dont get a good signal).
I'm almost 100% certain that I did this part correctly. My System Properties tells me that I'm using an "Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz, 2.13Ghz, 1.00GB of RAM." If I'd got the wrong hole or ground it improperly then why would it tell me that I've got a 1.60GHz processor running at 2.13GHz? My bios tells me that I'm using a 2.13GHz processor and NHC tells me that my Clock is running at 1866MHz @ 14x multiplier when running at Dynamic Switching.

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Are you on maximum voltage in NHC?
Yes - unfortunately it won't go any higher.

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What is the maximum (stock) voltage allowed for you chip?
I'm not sure. It's a 400FSB Pentium M @ 1.6GHz - isn't the stock voltage pretty much standard for these cpus? If not, I guess I need to remove the pinmod (argh!) and check NHC to see what my voltage is when the cpu is running under heavy load?

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What are your temps like?
As low as 22C when the aircon is on and as high as 55C when working outside in the Summer with very cpu-intensive applications running. I posted a thread before about this and everyone said that 55C isn't too bad and that Pentium M's can go as high as 90C or something ridiculous!

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Did you use AS5 on the CPU? Did you re-use the original thermal sticker (major problem right there)?
Yes, I used a cleaning compound to remove the thermal pad (came with the AS5) and obviously AS5 on the CPU. However, I didn't put any AS5 on the GPU as I >never< play games and because the GPU temp hardly ever goes above 40C.

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Is your memory stable (try memtest+ from www.memtest.org )?
Will try this later when I can borrow a USB key. (My dvd-rw drive is broken so can't burn a bootable cd at the moment)

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How's your ATiX300 holding up and is it overclocked?
Fine and not overclocked. Like I say - I never really play games. Actually, on a previous windows installation I installed BF2 and that had the same problems. (ran fine if I had the multiplier set to x14 but hard reset if it was set to x16)

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Have you changed any drivers recently?
Nope, it's always done this - from the time I first did the pinmod and reinstalled windows to now (10 months later).

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Do you get a blue screen of death (BSOD) or does your comptuer just reboot? If it gets a blue screen of death, what is the message you get with it?
No it just hard resets - no BSOD. Sometimes it'll just endlessly hard reset once it gets into windows and I'll need to disable Speedstep in the bios, boot to xp and set NHC from "Max Performance" back to "Max Battery" or "Dynamic Switching" and then reboot and re-enable Speedstep.

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Sorry, that's a lot of questions, but it'll really help me pin-point (no pun intended ) the problem. It's just that I've NEVER seen a 1.6 that wouldn't mod to 2.13GHz, so I have an inkling that something else is up. Answer those and we'll see what the next step is .
No problem at all and once again, thank you so much for helping me! If we can assume for a moment that it ISN'T my ram that's playing up, what else do you think it might be? Cheers
post #516 of 565
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Wow, that's pretty much text book low voltage symptoms. You did everything perfect, the chip, sorry to say, just sucks. The only other thing I could think of is it perfectly stable at 1.86GHz? If so, you just need to bump the juice a little bit. What is the stock voltage of the chip (the highest available setting in NHC)? Using that voltage I'll show you the pins you need to jump .
post #517 of 565
Well that sucks I guess - ah well... hopefully I won't need to increase the voltage too much :]

At x16 multiplier, the highest voltage setting available to me in NHC is 1.340V but this is with the pinmod in place. If I remove the pinmod will I get a different reading?

I'll try the memory and prime95 tests over the weekend to see if it's stable at x14 (1.86GHz). I suspect it will be because I use the laptop with very high cpu loads for long periods of time and it rarely becomes unstable. Good to check though.

Thanks once again!
post #518 of 565
Mr. K6 can i borrow your brain for whenever i need to upgrade my lappy?
post #519 of 565
I purchased a 1.8ghz dothan to replace the 1.73 533mhz that came with my 9300. It's up and running, without volt mod, at 2.4ghz in my i9300.

However, I sold the 1.73 proc to a guy who says its broken. I asked the guy what happens and he states that the proc allows his laptop to boot to the Windows splash screen then it hangs.

I dont want to refund his money as he has waited a month and a half to contact me with this issue after the sales was complete and I dont think there is anything actually wrong with the proc since it allows the guy to actually get to the splash screen.

Anyone have any ideas? I dont think its the proc that is acting up.


Phas3d
post #520 of 565
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiL0
Well that sucks I guess - ah well... hopefully I won't need to increase the voltage too much :]

At x16 multiplier, the highest voltage setting available to me in NHC is 1.340V but this is with the pinmod in place. If I remove the pinmod will I get a different reading?

I'll try the memory and prime95 tests over the weekend to see if it's stable at x14 (1.86GHz). I suspect it will be because I use the laptop with very high cpu loads for long periods of time and it rarely becomes unstable. Good to check though.

Thanks once again!
Yes, your stock voltage will always be 1.340V unless you modify it via hardware (pin-mods) or software (NHC, RMClock, etc.). That said, dont bother stress testing until after the first voltage pin mod. I'd say try out grounding VID2 (connect F3 to F4) to get 1.404V (see the chart in the first post). Test it out and see if you get any more crashing. Also keep an eye on your temps (that shouldn't raise them too much). You shouldn't worry about opening your laptop many times as long as you're careful. I've opened mine at least 20 times, it still runs perfectly and nothing is stripped out .

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Originally Posted by phas3d
I purchased a 1.8ghz dothan to replace the 1.73 533mhz that came with my 9300. It's up and running, without volt mod, at 2.4ghz in my i9300.

However, I sold the 1.73 proc to a guy who says its broken. I asked the guy what happens and he states that the proc allows his laptop to boot to the Windows splash screen then it hangs.

I dont want to refund his money as he has waited a month and a half to contact me with this issue after the sales was complete and I dont think there is anything actually wrong with the proc since it allows the guy to actually get to the splash screen.

Anyone have any ideas? I dont think its the proc that is acting up.


Phas3d
If it ran fine in your laptop it should run fine in his. Dont let him bullshit you. I usually offer a 7 day return period on parts I sell, if people cant get their acts together to test the equipment they bought within that time frame, it's their loss. I would reply with something along the lines of "There's nothing I can do a month and a half after the deal has ended. If you had an issue you should have contacted me immediately." It doesn't sound like an honest complaint, but more like he screwed with it or overclocked it for a month and killed it.

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Originally Posted by silicon???
Mr. K6 can i borrow your brain for whenever i need to upgrade my lappy?
Lol, sorry, I need it 24/7, but I'd be glad to help as best I can .
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