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Is there a big perforcmane differecne between celeron M 1.6 and Pentium M 1.6

post #1 of 20
11/1/05 at 2:55pm
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Just need some advice, sorry if the question might seem stupid.
Well, I just ordered compaq v4000t from Hp. In oreder to save money I added celeron M 1.6 Mhz instead of pentium. Will this be enough to play new games ( such as cs source and others, video is x700). If not will it be possible to upgrade it later to pentium M? And if yes how difficukt
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post #2 of 20
11/1/05 at 7:06pm
It should do okay and if you ask me i think there is a big difference in the battery life but not so much for the other... it is possible to upgrade later but it will void your warranty... I however dont think you will need to upgrade for CSS...
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post #3 of 20
11/1/05 at 8:47pm
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Thx for reply; Glad to hear that there is not a big difference. (I was just going to cancel my oreder ) )

Also do you mean that pentium M would have a better battery life?
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post #4 of 20
11/1/05 at 8:49pm
yes i do... im not sure how much but it would help with life...
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post #5 of 20
11/2/05 at 4:17am
I may be mistaken, but how does the Celeron M have worse battery life? Is it a higher voltage chip? Because the Celeron M is still based on the Pentium M core and shouldn't have different power characteristics. If anything the lower cache should result in less power use.
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post #6 of 20
11/2/05 at 7:02am
The Celeron M's don't have Speedstep, so it doesn't undervolt and underclock like the P-M does under lighter loads.
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post #7 of 20
11/2/05 at 9:32am
Not just speedstep, the celeron M's also lack the deep sleep states and the L2 cache is always active(pentium M can shut down parts of the L2 cache when not neded). But at max loads the Celeron M should give better battery life than a fully loaded Pentium M since it is rated at a TDP of 21W compared to the PM's 27.
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post #8 of 20
11/2/05 at 1:39pm
right...
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post #9 of 20
11/2/05 at 2:36pm
I see, gotta love crippled chips.
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post #10 of 20
11/3/05 at 6:24pm
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heh, I just got mine laptop. WELL IT HAS GREAT DESIGN.. it runs cs s pretty well decent settings.
the only drawback is F**g GLARE. HOW I HATE IT (

does anyone know how to reduce the reflection.

other than that I highly recoomend it... great laptop
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post #11 of 20
11/3/05 at 6:39pm
I'm having a little trouble accepting what's being said here...

Are we saying that the only benefit between the two processors is the speed stepping function? Speed being equal (1.6ghz), the Celeron will process data just as good as the Pentium-M?

I was always under the impression that the Pentium-M performed better in more than just battery life.
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post #12 of 20
11/3/05 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
I'm having a little trouble accepting what's being said here...

Are we saying that the only benefit between the two processors is the speed stepping function? Speed being equal (1.6ghz), the Celeron will process data just as good as the Pentium-M?

I was always under the impression that the Pentium-M performed better in more than just battery life.


I think that the Pentium-M processors perform much better than Celeron.

Why???
It's very simple...
Everybody say that P-Ms are as good, if not better, than P4s, and we all know that P4s are a lot better than Celeries...so, P-Ms should be a lot better than Celeries too.

Am I wrong???
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post #13 of 20
11/3/05 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
I'm having a little trouble accepting what's being said here...

Are we saying that the only benefit between the two processors is the speed stepping function? Speed being equal (1.6ghz), the Celeron will process data just as good as the Pentium-M?
No. It is quite frankly impossible for a Celeron M 1.6GHz to perform better than the Pentium M 1.6GHz simply because it has half the L2 cache as the Pentium M. But its performance is quite resonable compared to the Pentium M, they are not cut down too much and perform decently.

But when used in a thin & light laptop, it basically loses the meaning of a "mobile" processor. Intel should have atleast provided a basic form of Speedstep.
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post #14 of 20
11/3/05 at 9:32pm
Yes celeron M's are basically the same as the pentium m except for the fact it has half the L2 cache... but the newer Celeron M's like the 1.6 have 1mb L2 cache which is very very good for a budget cpu... if you only need a laptop for normal use and don't need all the bells and whistles just get the celeron m... they're not like the crappy P4 celerons... i have an old lappy with a 1.3 celeron m (1mb cache) with an upgraded 5400rpm samsung hdd and it kicks the crap out of my roommates 1.5 PM (also 1mb cache).

I guess what i am saying is that they are pretty kick ass chips for the $$
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post #15 of 20
11/3/05 at 10:30pm
wow....this is good to know.
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post #16 of 20
11/4/05 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Ericko


I think that the Pentium-M processors perform much better than Celeron.

Why???
It's very simple...
Everybody say that P-Ms are as good, if not better, than P4s, and we all know that P4s are a lot better than Celeries...so, P-Ms should be a lot better than Celeries too.

Am I wrong???
Doesn't really work that way. The Celeron M's are based off the Pentium M architecture, they simply have less cache, while the desktop Celerons are based off the Pentium 4 architecture and have less cache than those chips.

The Celeron M has 1MB of cache, and the Celeron has 256kB of cache. This lack of cache really hurts the P4 architecture and a 1.6 Celeron M is probably going to be faster than the fastest P4 Celeron at 3.2ghz.

The current Celeron Ms probably perform similarly to the pre-dothan PMs which had 1Mb cache.
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post #17 of 20
11/4/05 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by funnyperson1
Doesn't really work that way. The Celeron M's are based off the Pentium M architecture, they simply have less cache, while the desktop Celerons are based off the Pentium 4 architecture and have less cache than those chips.

The Celeron M has 1MB of cache, and the Celeron has 256kB of cache. This lack of cache really hurts the P4 architecture and a 1.6 Celeron M is probably going to be faster than the fastest P4 Celeron at 3.2ghz.

The current Celeron Ms probably perform similarly to the pre-dothan PMs which had 1Mb cache.
Oh...I like this forums because I learn new things everyday
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post #18 of 20
11/5/05 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by haplo_09
Just need some advice, sorry if the question might seem stupid.
Well, I just ordered compaq v4000t from Hp. In oreder to save money I added celeron M 1.6 Mhz instead of pentium. Will this be enough to play new games ( such as cs source and others, video is x700). If not will it be possible to upgrade it later to pentium M? And if yes how difficukt
I agree with everything that was said earlier. For the most part, the Celeron-M will be more than enough for your needs, especially since you have the X700.

On a side note, Congrats to Ericko on your purchase.

Be sure to submit reviews on your new toys!
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post #19 of 20
11/5/05 at 10:52pm
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Originally Posted by admlam
I agree with everything that was said earlier. For the most part, the Celeron-M will be more than enough for your needs, especially since you have the X700.

On a side note, Congrats to Ericko on your purchase.

Be sure to submit reviews on your new toys!
Thank you very much and of course I will do a review, expect it in about 3 or 4 weeks. The laptop will arive in 2 and a half weeks aprox.
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post #20 of 20
11/7/05 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by Ericko
Thank you very much and of course I will do a review, expect it in about 3 or 4 weeks. The laptop will arive in 2 and a half weeks aprox.
Okay cool....
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