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post #1 of 34
11/8/05 at 11:28pm
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Okay, I've had my ASUS Z70VA Notebook for almost a month now, and I really never thought much of this before, but: Is it just me or--> With a game like Prince of Persia (Sands of Time), or Battlefield 2 (Demo version, in my case), are people finding that you cannot run these games at native resolution (1680x1050)? I mean, today, I was playing along-sides an ol' chum of mine who has a DELL Inspiron 9300 (w/ the 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display (max resolution of: 1920 x 1200), and 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800 gpu; these are the only main factors that matter...) and noticed that (I know I'm not a complete idiot: He card is more powerful than mine...so, the upcoming result(s) was expected...) for example, when playing Prince of Persia that he could play to a max display ratio of 1680x1050, where as on my Z70VA, I could only play w/ a max of (I can't remember exactly) around 1200-ish something by something. What gives; anyone? I've updated my drivers to the max. I've even tried to run games at native resolution, prior to updating the drivers, but to no avail. I tried contacting my reseller for any hints/suggestions but he/she was not really of any use/help. I turn to you all then: Can anyone help me? Also, when I had played the Battlefield 2 Demo, I noticed the max resolution that I could run that at (what was available for me to choose from the list) was 1400-ish something by something. This whole situation pisses me of. I mean, the graphics (and the overall balance of specs+price-to-performance ratio) was the main reason for to have gotten this laptop, and if it can't even run games at its "native" resolution, then...well, then, that is truly freakin' upsetting.
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post #2 of 34
11/9/05 at 12:18am
Um, maybe cause most game makers don't care about widescreen for the moment?

Anyways, here's a good resource for help about making your games run at native screen resolutions: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/
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post #3 of 34
11/9/05 at 12:18am
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Originally Posted by BadBoy787512
Okay, I've had my ASUS Z70VA Notebook for almost a month now, and I really never thought much of this before, but: Is it just me or--> With a game like Prince of Persia (Sands of Time), or Battlefield 2 (Demo version, in my case), are people finding that you cannot run these games at native resolution (1680x1050)? I mean, today, I was playing along-sides an ol' chum of mine who has a DELL Inspiron 9300 (w/ the 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display (max resolution of: 1920 x 1200), and 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800 gpu; these are the only main factors that matter...) and noticed that (I know I'm not a complete idiot: He card is more powerful than mine...so, the upcoming result(s) was expected...) for example, when playing Prince of Persia that he could play to a max display ratio of 1680x1050, where as on my Z70VA, I could only play w/ a max of (I can't remember exactly) around 1200-ish something by something. What gives; anyone? I've updated my drivers to the max. I've even tried to run games at native resolution, prior to updating the drivers, but to no avail. I tried contacting my reseller for any hints/suggestions but he/she was not really of any use/help. I turn to you all then: Can anyone help me? Also, when I had played the Battlefield 2 Demo, I noticed the max resolution that I could run that at (what was available for me to choose from the list) was 1400-ish something by something. This whole situation pisses me of. I mean, the graphics (and the overall balance of specs+price-to-performance ratio) was the main reason for to have gotten this laptop, and if it can't even run games at its "native" resolution, then...well, then, that is truly freakin' upsetting.
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If you're running on battery, make sure to turn off ATI PowerPlay, as that clocks down the GPU.

Wait- point of clarification- does running the game at the native resolution give you an unsatisfactory framerate, or do the games not acutlaly list the native as a supported resolution? Because you may have to first select "Widescreen 16:10" under a separate dropdown before 1680 will become an option.

I haven't played those games on my z70va, but as I recall Prince of Persia isn't that recent, you should be able to play it fine at native. I play every game at native, and the only that has any problems is Black and White 2 (which sucks at all resolutions due to bad programming).
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post #4 of 34
11/9/05 at 12:29am
its very simple,


6800go pwnz the x700
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post #5 of 34
11/9/05 at 12:57am
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Originally Posted by drizek
its very simple,


6800go pwnz the x700

Oh, c'mon now man...contribute something meaningful (although you do have the right to state your "opinion") to the case/sake of helping a dude, w/ a problem out.
Addressing liveisnotlive-->I really wouldn't know how well the game runs at native resolution, for the option to select the ASUS Z70VA's native solution is not there; it actually is NOT listed. Furthermore, I cannot find that "Widescreen 16:10" that you are speaking of (at least, not within the confines of this particular game-->Prince of Persia_The Sands of Time). Also, I am in fact NOT using the battery; I'm playing w/ the AC adapter plugged in. And mrfocus, thanks for the link. Can anyone else share their ideas?
Thanks a bunch guys.
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post #6 of 34
11/9/05 at 3:14am
Are you trying to run the game at 1600 by 1200? cause if u are it wont work because your display cant run that resolution?
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post #7 of 34
11/9/05 at 8:09am
I got a 6600go and I can run BF2 at native res
and HL2

thats pretty much alL I play
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post #8 of 34
11/9/05 at 10:52am
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No, srd, I'm not trying to run the game at 1600x1200, because I KNOW that it cannot run at that resolution; my max res. is 1680x1050 (as I had stated in my first post). I was just using my friend/friend's laptop as a means of comparison. My main problem is: Why is the option to run at my native resolution not showing up in any of the games I am playing? I think it's in fact kinda f n' ridiculous, because I've updated my card (ie updated the driver). Anybody else able to offer anything (any ideas or whatnot)?
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post #9 of 34
11/9/05 at 12:41pm
The most likely answer at the moment to me is the one by mrfocus. The game just doesn't support widescreen format, so the highest resolution you'll be able to get will use the entirety of your resolution height (1050), but since it essentially doesn't know how to run in widescreen, it will only use a standard 4:3 ratio, so it will only use a portion of the resolution width (1400), and there will be little black bars on the left & right of your screen. Assuming you want those bars to go away, you can opt to have the image slightly "stretched" but filling the whole screen by deselecting "constrain proportions" or some similar option in your video card menu.
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post #10 of 34
11/9/05 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by Djembe
The most likely answer at the moment to me is the one by mrfocus. The game just doesn't support widescreen format, so the highest resolution you'll be able to get will use the entirety of your resolution height (1050), but since it essentially doesn't know how to run in widescreen, it will only use a standard 4:3 ratio, so it will only use a portion of the resolution width (1400), and there will be little black bars on the left & right of your screen. Assuming you want those bars to go away, you can opt to have the image slightly "stretched" but filling the whole screen by deselecting "constrain proportions" or some similar option in your video card menu.
Hmm, fair enough...I guess. Still, can you explain why, then, my buddy's GO 6800 (256MB) card can attain at most a 1680x1050 aspect ratio in the game? I'm looking for an answer that is other than the typical: "Because it's so badass" or because "It's the best card; it's pwns"...something brainless like that?
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post #11 of 34
11/9/05 at 2:13pm
hmmm... that is interesting. did you ask him how he achieved that particular resolution (i.e. did he have to change some obscure setting to get it that way)? I see your confusion now, because if he can make it have widescreen format, you should, too. I'd ask your buddy about the settings.
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post #12 of 34
11/9/05 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by BadBoy787512
Hmm, fair enough...I guess. Still, can you explain why, then, my buddy's GO 6800 (256MB) card can attain at most a 1680x1050 aspect ratio in the game? I'm looking for an answer that is other than the typical: "Because it's so badass" or because "It's the best card; it's pwns"...something brainless like that?
Thanks A Lot
I'm not sure there's a definite answer to this. If you're talking about the same game, and the ONLY thing different is that he can access 1680 widescreen and you can't, then it could very well be a difference between the two video cards. Not to say that the x700 is a bad card - in fact, I believe it came out after the Prince of Persia game, so maybe ATI just never addressed the issue in their drivers (they tend to do that only with newer releases).

Edit: I agree with Djembe, I still think there might simply be a toggle between 4:3 and 16:10 somewhere in the settings menu (separate from resolution), like in HL2. Also, are you scrolling down all the way? Sometimes all the widescreen settings will appear on the list only after the highest 4:3, and not where they make sense if you put them in numerical order.
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post #13 of 34
11/9/05 at 3:54pm
I can play CS:S and HL2 at native resolution on my Z70VA, so it's probably something with the game, as the Z70VA is definitely capable of gaming in native res. I don't have Prince of Persia, so I can't try it out to see if mine's any different.

O, and I have the Omega drivers installed on mine. I would try those if you haven't yet.
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post #14 of 34
11/9/05 at 5:18pm
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Well, see, here's the wierd thing: When either one of us runs the game, it gives some error about our cards not being supported; neither my X700 nor his GO 6800 are supported. Also, no, he did not have to do anything obscure to get to that resolution. He has all his drivers updated as well. It is really strange and disappointing to me, but at least Djembe, you have caught the jist of what I am trying to say. I have done all the scrolling, searching, and what-not all over the game's menus, etc, and I have yet to find anything that lets me change the widescreen settings. I have the latest Catalyst driver(s) installed; I used this link to get 'em: http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/ . I prefer this driver over the Omegas do to the fact that it actually gives me a higher 35Mark05 Score--> 2552 (no overclocking-->and I don't intend to...). Man guys...I'm running out of ideas on what to do .
Lol, anyone, I'm begging you...
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post #15 of 34
11/9/05 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by BadBoy787512
Well, see, here's the wierd thing: When either one of us runs the game, it gives some error about our cards not being supported; neither my X700 nor his GO 6800 are supported. Also, no, he did not have to do anything obscure to get to that resolution. He has all his drivers updated as well. It is really strange and disappointing to me, but at least Djembe, you have caught the jist of what I am trying to say. I have done all the scrolling, searching, and what-not all over the game's menus, etc, and I have yet to find anything that lets me change the widescreen settings. I have the latest Catalyst driver(s) installed; I used this link to get 'em: http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/ . I prefer this driver over the Omegas do to the fact that it actually gives me a higher 35Mark05 Score--> 2552 (no overclocking-->and I don't intend to...). Man guys...I'm running out of ideas on what to do .
Lol, anyone, I'm begging you...
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Try playing a newer game and see what happens? I don't know, I'm all out of ideas too.
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post #16 of 34
11/9/05 at 6:22pm
I am no game guru i just pretend to know but here is the thing. Its the actual card it self in my oppionion. Take for example.
On a widescreen 19" desktop we were forced to use an nvidia card for it to support the widescreen res. Any ati card we tried did not support native. I am sure some of the later ati's do but the guy paid 100$ for a vga card pcie. Originally had the x300 then the x600 neither supported it. Then we tried the 6800gt and bingo. So we ate the $$ difference and gave him the card that worked. He later came back with the same card burned from messing arround after overclocking and we tried the 6600GT and that worked too. Take it how you want it but this is "normal". Moral of the story we no longer sell wide screen lcd's.
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post #17 of 34
11/9/05 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by g2p07
I am no game guru i just pretend to know but here is the thing. Its the actual card it self in my oppionion. Take for example.
On a widescreen 19" desktop we were forced to use an nvidia card for it to support the widescreen res. Any ati card we tried did not support native. I am sure some of the later ati's do but the guy paid 100$ for a vga card pcie. Originally had the x300 then the x600 neither supported it. Then we tried the 6800gt and bingo. So we ate the $$ difference and gave him the card that worked. He later came back with the same card burned from messing arround after overclocking and we tried the 6600GT and that worked too. Take it how you want it but this is "normal". Moral of the story we no longer sell wide screen lcd's.
Uh...not trying to be rude or anything, Eddie, but...I am having trouble finding the relevancy of what you just said, to my issue at hand?

Anyways, I just finished installing/playing the second Prince of Persia game (Prince of Persia_Warrior Within; I do believe that it came out in 2004), and...I am getting the same s t! This is unbelievable; WTF! Now, I am absolutely, officially, lost.

And so, this is where I guess it gets pretty much hopeless, huh?
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post #18 of 34
11/9/05 at 8:57pm
uuuh ok. Nevermind i ll stick to the support section where my theories of relativity go unpinished
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post #19 of 34
11/9/05 at 10:28pm
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Originally Posted by g2p07
uuuh ok. Nevermind i ll stick to the support section where my theories of relativity go unpinished
Lol, still don't follow you Eddie, haha. Anyways, does anyone else have any more suggestions?
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post #20 of 34
11/9/05 at 11:59pm
Go read the manual or search for it online. Ususally the manual contains info on how to select the wanted resolution. This usually involve add a command or something to enable other resolutions. This is how I usually get native resolution.
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