Hibernate or Shut Down? - Page 6

I get it! But how stable is it? I mean, do things go wrong with it?

How often does this happen?

Yup!

The only time I have trouble with Hibernate, and this is only occasionally, is when I change something (attach or disconnect a USB device, modify the network, etc.) while the laptop is resting. If I know something like that has changed, I'll hit F8 and do a full boot when restarting. Hibernate, in that case still saved me time because when I shut down Windows didn't have to 'Save my Settings'.

Up to date, I only had 3 kind of problems when returning from hibernation:

1- Not all icons showing on the taskbar area. This happens mostly with intel proset (yeah, i like intel proset, very practical, imo. just remove some things on install and it's as fast as WZC), network and other apps. The windows sound icon never had this problem.

2- Program malfunction. Some apps will act in a weird manner. For example, a program called speedswitch xp won't maintain the selected cpu throttle mode after resuming from hibernation.

3- Windows malfunction. This only happens if you change your system between the start of the hibernation process and the resume. For example, if i take a CD out of the drive before windows beeing restarted, the OS will keep asking me to put that given CD in the drive. olyteddy, above, said simmilar things. So, I would advice everyone to avoid, if possible, changing the system in a general way between hibernations. Not a huge problem, though, since you can always logoff (or reboot) if the problem bothers you, but I never knew one that would really, really affect the usability of the system or crash it somehow.

So, when you hibernate, expect those little annoying problems. When I hibernate the notebook, I close all my work and leave only 'system-like' apps opened.

I had this problem a lot in my windows 98 days, when 'explorer' crashed and the taskbar would close and then open again. Most of my icons would disappear. On XP, this happens only if I hibernate and, then return. Not all times, though. btw, that's the reason (related reason) I never ever used internet explorer: I don't like when system apps goes weird, so I think web surf apps MUST be separate from the OS. I always used Netscape or anything else (even if it's worse than IE) because I remember that if Netscape would ever crash, it would not make the entire OS go nuts...

So you can push F8 & do a full boot without any problem?

During the restore screen, while the RAM is reloading, push F8 and it gives you the option to ignore the Hibernation file and reboot instead.

If you're restarting because of a problem with Hibernate in the first place, you've saved no time--you've wasted it.

M.

thelostpatrol, he has problems "occasionally", as he said. That means that he can waste time some times, but most of them he saves. So, he will end up by saving time instead for wasting, even if sometimes he has those problems. At least, this is exactly what happens to me.

Also, in that situation, he _already_ knows that he changed the system somehow (since he disconnected hardware or anything and is susceptible to failures). So, instead of allowing the system to resume from hibernation and, then, rebooting (what configures a waste of time), he discards the resume and do a normal boot in advance. I guess that, in those cases, he will have nothing longer than a normal boot (maybe 1-2 seconds to select the menu option :P ). Obviously, not always you know that a problem will happen, but you got the idea of my first paragraph (one isolated failure, better overall speed).

I use Hibernate on the rare occasion when I am in classes and need to go take a leak. But I don't connect new devices or anything like that and I don't keep my programs open. It's literally just to boot Windows back up quick.

I do this 'cause I don't want to leave my notebook unattended. It goes in my bag, which is on my back all the time while I'm whizzing.

But I wouldn't Hibernate if I had no reason to rush though, that's pointless. People leaving their computers on for days without a reboot (using Hibernate only) really confuse me as to why the hell they bother to do that.

I don't know about you all but my shutdown and restart times are pretty freakin' fast.

Also, no need to give me the idiot's explanation of the situation, I know very well what he meant.

M.

this is too much to worry about.

patrol: I think it's funny you don't like to hibernate, considering you avatar of a bear.

I've still saved time, because shutdown is quicker without saving my settings.

Sorry if I try to explain things well to others... not saying that you're idiot or considering you one, or even replying as that. Really. If it works for you, great, i was just telling that it *really* saves time when booting up. I have the numbers here (measured in seconds) if you want. It's not a "no need for rush" point. And, even so, imagine for a moment that flash drives are already cheap today. Wouldn't you want one so your computer could start much faster than they can today? Well, I would.

If your computer boots up fastest or equal to hibernate, good for you. Mine doesn't, and, for what it seems, olyteddy's also doesn't. I've sensed (and not just me, for what it seems) you were a little upset in the last paragraph. If you were not, sorry. If you were, I'm sorry, too. Didn't mean to.

Pretty much everything explained, I guess it may be better to stop here.

Nah, wasn't upset. I just tend to type in a serious tone and without smileys... for the most part.

M.

A programmer friend of mine and I were discussing this, and he told me that the Hibernation stuff was programmed very badly, and has a lot of flaws. He recommended that I never use it. I can attest that I have similar problems to those listed above, which is that my notebook doesn't like me changing peripherals when I'm in hibernation.

-Ransom

I tried Hibernate a few times as a result of this thread. It worked fine but again didn't amaze me, it just isn't special enough to be used, really.

M.