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Poll Results: Shutdown or Hibernate?

 
  • 42% (44)
    Shutdown
  • 57% (59)
    Hibernate
103 Total Votes  
post #81 of 121
11/14/05 at 11:52am
Yeah, the on/off switch circuit in the power supply I'm sure uses some power (waiting for the button to be pushed) but so does that little red light on your TV (waiting for the IR signal from your remote) or the clock on your VCR (flashing 12:00...12:00...12:00) but the amount of power spent waiting isn't affected by whether you are Hibernating or Shut Down. Hibernation is Shut Down with a different Boot Sequence. On Re-Boot after Hibernate, your PC simply reloads your memory from the HD and you continue where you left off.
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post #82 of 121
11/14/05 at 1:16pm
"...power ... isn't affected by whether you are Hibernating or Shut Down. Hibernation is Shut Down..."

True, makes absolutely no difference to Power Supply, Main or CSMOS Battery whether you Hibernate or do a Complete Normal Shutdown.

Stand-By will, over time, drain a battery and then you have a 'Hard' shutdown and loss of any "saved" data.
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post #83 of 121
11/14/05 at 1:26pm
Well Hibernation is only possible for components under ACPI standard. So if the component isn't complaint, it wont hibernate. I looked into the issue and found why my old Thinkpad was using up energy. It seems they have a power leak bug when hibernating/standby making it waist more energy. That would explain why my battery would have went down. There is some patches for it (unnoffical ones), maybe an official one if I can find it. Then maybe see different results.
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post #84 of 121
11/14/05 at 1:47pm
wow i really thought more people would say shutdown
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post #85 of 121
11/14/05 at 3:42pm
All these people stating that their computers coldboot in ten seconds are either lying or they have disabled everything possible, which basically renders it just about useless for anything other than one specific task.
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post #86 of 121
11/15/05 at 6:15am
I think I'm going to stay with sleep and shutdown.
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post #87 of 121
11/15/05 at 11:26am
I've always wondered how it was possible when people reported their laptops running as cool as 27 degrees or so. Now I understand. They measured these temperatures in hibernated mode
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post #88 of 121
11/15/05 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by FastM
mine starts up about as fast as coming out of hibernation, so i dont see the point to hibernate.

I get 1 windows loading bar going accross then into windows.
Same here, mang. Same here.

M.
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post #89 of 121
11/15/05 at 12:36pm
Finally, one point cleared: hibernating does not have any power drawbacks, right?. If I can hibernate without the main battery for days (what already happened) and restart exactly where I stopped, then there is no drawback. CMOS usage will not change the results obtained with this situation, so it is irrelevant.

With sleep mode, however, you can't take the main battery out or you will lose your work instantly (everyone already did that by accident...). That tells me that sleep mode have power drawbacks compared to hibernation and power off.
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post #90 of 121
11/15/05 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by DDDa
Finally, one point cleared: hibernating does not have any power drawbacks, right?. If I can hibernate without the main battery for days (what already happened) and restart exactly where I stopped, then there is no drawback. CMOS usage will not change the results obtained with this situation, so it is irrelevant.

With sleep mode, however, you can't take the main battery out or you will lose your work instantly (everyone already did that by accident...). That tells me that sleep mode have power drawbacks compared to hibernation and power off.
You can hibernate, take the disk out, put it on a shelf for five years, put it back in, and then resume. Hibernation just saves data which the OS uses while booting up. When it is done saving, it turns the PC off just like it normally does.

The only difference between turning off the computer and hibernating is what the computer does before turning off, and after turning on.
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post #91 of 121
11/15/05 at 3:43pm
I rarely shutdown. Almost always just shut the lid and hibernate and almost never see any problems with programs. I will reboot every couple of weeks to clean up memory leaks with ram etc. Other than that I don't see any real point in shutting down.
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post #92 of 121
11/15/05 at 3:49pm
Shutdown!
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post #93 of 121
11/16/05 at 6:24am
So why would a person not use hibernate?
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post #94 of 121
11/16/05 at 6:56am
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Originally Posted by YinYang
So why would a person not use hibernate?
Hibernate doesn't always function correctly. All it does is store everything in the ram, so when you power back up, it loads window's data from the ram, but sometimes stuff gets corrupted, thus you will need to restart anyways.

I always use shutdown.
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post #95 of 121
11/16/05 at 8:24am

Hibernate

I set my laptop to Standby, and have not had any problems with waking it up. With my new multimedia keyboard I can wake up my machine straight into Itunes. My wifi is always connected.

I have noticed that problem with rebooting - it takes ages to come back online. So i no longer shut down but would say i end up doing so once a week, which is about how many times a new update comes along!
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post #96 of 121
11/16/05 at 1:18pm
I'm switching between several networks at home, at work, at client's location: two wired, two wireless. Coming out of hibernate and acquiring network/authenticating takes at least as long as booting afresh. But hibernation also requires 2 GB file on disk (see my specs for RAM in the sig). Not worth it.

Besides, I always finish a piece of work before packing up.

For people who are unable to organize their time (some because of their job specifics, like writers, some - for other reasons) hibernate is definitely a win over shutdown.
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post #97 of 121
11/16/05 at 1:23pm
I think there is some confusion going on here...and some incorrect information


STANDBY in laptops: faster shutdown/resume, stores system state in memory while continuing to use power to keep the data in memory. Be it AC or battery power in this state the machine is NOT completely "off".

HIBERNATE in laptops: system state and memory dumped to hard drive, ALL hardware is shutdown requiring no power to any part of the machine.

People are getting these two mixed up with wrong characteristics. That said I have started using standby between offices and it is much quicker than hibernate. Yesterday however I was so busy that I never got to turn my laptop back on untill I was home so it sat in standby for most of the day. Didn't seem to drop the battery to much but I did notice it when I got home and popped open my machine to get online...but my battery doesn't last long in this DTR anyway.

I'd say for long term shutdown of a few hours, overnight, etc use HIBERNATE, and if your like me just traveling a few minutes between locations use STANDBY. Personally I do a full shutdown of my system at the end of the work day...I like to be "fresh" for home use if I do any sort of gaming.
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post #98 of 121
11/16/05 at 2:39pm
@Guspaz: I know. It was a rethoric . It was just to state clearly (specially to ask1about) that hibernate won't give you problems because of someone taking the battery out.

@Fallen Angel: once more, the contents are not stored in the RAM, as you said ('it loads window's data from the ram'), but from the hard drive. edited: if the contents were in the RAM, failing to provide energy to the laptop would result in missing data, since the RAM we use is volatile.

@YinYang: I always use hibernate, and I also don't know why someone would not do that (edited: i know it was already discussed. No need to reply only because of that...). However, maybe it's just me, because I realize hibernation takes up space on the HD (exactly the amount of the RAM). The RAM, IIRC, is stored, on windows, on a file called hiberfil.sys, on the root (top-level) folder of the drive.

Also, things not always work properly, as already stated here lots of times. People here say that it needs a reboot to work again, but, honestly (and personally), I never had a problem that couldn't be solved with a logoff-logon. Mostly, these errors are icons not beeing shown on the taskbar area and also CPU speed problems (at least here)...

Not that I never turn off. Sometimes (quite often) I do, just to be on the safe side... don't know why, but i do... and backed by some people, it seems it's not a bad thing to do.
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post #99 of 121
11/16/05 at 2:43pm
standby if Im just going out to work, school, out, or sleep. Shutdown if its something longer. Saves me 1.2 GB of space when I disabled Hibernate.
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post #100 of 121
11/16/05 at 2:49pm
@YinYang: ^ See what I said?
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