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5720 or 9890 for multimedia development

post #1 of 16
11/10/05 at 2:16pm
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I'm a 3D modeler/animator and Video editor at the company I work for. I'm drawing up the budget info for next year and am trying to make a choice between a new desktop system or a notebook system. My problem is that I've not been able to find any sites that have done a head-to-head comparison of the Pentium M and the P4 systems.

The software I use is primarily 3DS MAX, LightWave, Premier PRO, and After Effects. I'd love to see some numbers comparing the 5720 and the 9890 for these packages, but I don't think that's going to happen. From some earlier testing (long time ago) I've found that the 1.6GHz Pentium M chip actually render 3D faster than the 3GHz P4 in my current desktop. I don't know if that still holds true, but...eh?

Currently I have an 8790 that I use for my home based freelance work, and it works great. Does anyone have any experience with the Pentium M with regards to video editing?

Thanks,
Rick
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post #2 of 16
11/10/05 at 5:17pm
The Quatro graphics in the 9880 will make the difference in any 3D work. The 7800 is best for gaming not graphics. But if you must go for the 7800, the PM is a pretty decent chip for 3D rendering. A P4 can still blow it away in some respects but it works well.
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post #3 of 16
11/11/05 at 2:31am
There is no flipping way that a Pentium M will render as fast as a Pentium 'desktop'!!!

Nuff said.
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post #4 of 16
11/11/05 at 3:30am
i basically juggled the same decision last month.... im a senior designer/multimedia developer for an ad agency in nyc... and basically my work consists of a ton of photoshop/illustrator/maya/cinema4D/flash/afterffects/premier pro... through my research i ended up ordering the 9890 over the 5720... basically becuase the hyperthreaded CPU will do what i need it to do better than a centrino solution... and i didnt need the battery life... my laptop will go from my home desk to my work desk and basically end up docked in one of those spots 95% of the time its on... now i am just bitting my fingernails waiting for my new machine to show up... supposedly it going to ship next week
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post #5 of 16
11/11/05 at 5:34am
not sure about rendering but both the 5320 and the 5720 beat my home pc (see sig) with Super Pi 1.4 Modded, no SSE. Shocked me silly.
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post #6 of 16
11/14/05 at 11:28am
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Thanks for all of the reply's guys. I really appreciate it.

I was suprised that the performance of the M processor was so good, too.
Yeah, it doesn't beat the desktop processors at everything, but it did best it on some of the scenes I used for testing. It is scene dependant, though. Radiosity renders quicker on the desktop chip. For example, an IBM T43 with a 1.8GHz M rendered a scene in 1 minute 11 seconds. My desktop with a P4 3.06GHz HT processor rendered the same scene in 55 seconds. Really not too bad, though. Like I said in my first post, the last time I compared it was using a different 3D package, but the same scene (non-radiosity) was loaded on the 3.06GHz P4 and the 1.6GHz M. Hit render at the same time, and the 1.6GHz M handily bested the P4 by a good margin. I didn't time it, I just watched them render simultaneously and was suprised at the results.

So, given that Intel is going to be bringing the M processors into the desktop arena, I still don't know what direction I'll go. I'd rather go 64bit, but it's won't be supported by the IT department for a while and won't get approved.
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post #7 of 16
11/15/05 at 9:59am
I'm in the same dilemna. I am a 3d artist by profession and I'm having a tough time deciding. Ironically, I know the pros and cons of each processor; and I know I SHOULD be getting the 9890...but that thing is huge man.. and a shorter battery life.

I need this notebook because I'll be relocating soon, I want something that I can pack up and go, at the same time, used as a DTR. the 5720 is definitely more worthy in terms of mobile computing, but I'm just worried it wouldn't be powerful enough for my work. I need to have 3dsmax and Zbrush/ photoshop up at the same time, plus I touch up my work in Digital fusion at times.

Seems like it has to be a 9890... the 5720 looks gorgeous..... DOH!
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post #8 of 16
11/15/05 at 11:48am
I used to use a P4 laptop (3.06HT) for video editing and audio encoding. My current PM 2.0 Dothan is as fast or close enough that it doesn't matter. Video is rendering from Sony Vegas to AVI or MPG and audio is iTunes.

However, unless you want a laptop right now I would wait. The new dual core Yonah (Pentium M) machines should be coming out in January and by all reports they are much faster than the current machines, especially for video.

Steve
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post #9 of 16
11/15/05 at 2:16pm
Like I said before. Consider the Quatro card in the 9880.
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post #10 of 16
11/15/05 at 2:32pm
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I don't see an option for the Quadro in the 9890.
Doh, I kept reading 9890 when you were typing 9880. Sorry about that.

But, even so, since the 9880, 9890 and the 5720 all use the same graphics system, shouldn't it be possible to put a QuadroFX Go in the 5720?

I mean, wasn't that the point behind putting PCI express video in the notebooks in the first place? So they could be upgraded/interchanged?

Now, the plus side is that since we're just setting budgets now, I wouldn't be able to purchase anything until March/April of next year anyway, so all of this will probably change.

My main question was whether or not an M system was capable of Video, and since Steve's using Vegas on one, I'll assume it is.


Now if someone would just come up with a way to use Li-Poly batteries in these beasts, my world would be complete, and they would be a wealthy person....
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post #11 of 16
11/15/05 at 4:46pm
I dont believe the 5720 has the heat disapation ability to handle a 7800.

The point of interchangeable graphics is so you dont have to replace the whole motherboard if the video goes bad.
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post #12 of 16
11/18/05 at 12:03pm
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I hope the 5720 does have the heat dissipation ability since it's being sold with 7800s.

I guess not having to change the whole MB for a video problem is good, but does that mean that cards based on the spec aren't interchangable?
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post #13 of 16
11/18/05 at 7:31pm
Oops, I meant Quatro! Sorry

But Graphics cards are not interchangeable yet, if ever.
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post #14 of 16
11/18/05 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by TwilightVampire
Oops, I meant Quatro! Sorry

But Graphics cards are not interchangeable yet, if ever.
Are you refering to the Quatro 1400? That card was based on the core for the 6800(if memory servers) so it should run even cooler then the Ultra and 7800.
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post #15 of 16
11/19/05 at 1:58am
Hmm, interesting. So is there a way to put a quatro into the 5720? Or is it ever coming? That I'd probably buy in a second!
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post #16 of 16
11/19/05 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by sfdoddsy
However, unless you want a laptop right now I would wait. The new dual core Yonah (Pentium M) machines should be coming out in January and by all reports they are much faster than the current machines, especially for video.

Steve
The dual core Yonah's are coming out in January. The laptops that use them? I doubt it. Probably several months away in reality.
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