NotebookForums.com › Forums › Notebook Manufacturers › Dell Forums › Dell Notebooks - General › 9300 or 6000: difficult choice
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

9300 or 6000: difficult choice

post #1 of 107
Thread Starter 
Well Hi, I'm planning to purchase new notebook very soon and I need this laptop to office work, photo edit, watch DVDs and play some games like Civilization 4, Age of Empires 3, Sims 2. I'd like to know which of these systems will be enough?
Has ATI Mobility Radeon X300 128MB shared or own memory?

DELL Inspiron 9300
- Intel Pentium M Processor 760 (2GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 17' UltraSharp Wide Screen XGA+ Display
- 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
- 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
- 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
or
- Intel Pentium M Processor 760 (2GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 17' UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife
- 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
- 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
- 100GB 5400rpm Hard Drive
or
- Intel Pentium M Processor 750 (1.86GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 17' UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife
- 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
- 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
- 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive

DELL Inspiron 6000D
- Intel Pentium M Processor 760 (2 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 15.4' UltraSharp WSXGA+ LCD Panel
- 1GB DDR2 SDRAM 2 Dimms
- 128MB DDR ATI's MOBILITY RADEON X300 PCI Express x16 Graphics
- 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
post #2 of 107
For the games you listed, the 6000 will be enough, but if you consider yourself as any more than a "casual" gamer, you probably want the 9300 for the better performance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by noirnacre
Has ATI Mobility Radeon X300 128MB shared or own memory?
I think it is all dedicated, unlike the desktop version of the card, which is part shared.
post #3 of 107
how can u ask someones opinion with no prices???

the obvious choice would be the fastest 9300..but again, that would change with prices.

if you dont play any games...get the 6000. if you plan to play more, get the 9300 with a 6800go. you will see identical results between the 1.6pM in the 6000 and 9300.

so basically screen res, ,size video card are your variables.

i love my 6000, and the 128 is perfectly capable.
the 128 x300 is all ded. no shared.

PS unless you can justify spending that much oney on a 2.0ghz PM, get something smaller...they are quite fast. and youll save some money you can spend elsewhere.
also, i went from a 3.2 prescott to my 1.6 PM, and couldnt be happier for what i paid.
again, i can help you a lot more if i had prices of what you can spend, what you need, and what you want (:
post #4 of 107
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chevyrulz099
how can u ask someones opinion with no prices???
Sorry about that.
Prices of these notebooks are more or less the same. Ins 6000D costs 100$ less but I'll get Bluetooth and 3Yr Ltd Warr,At-Home Service,and Tech Support plus Nights and Weekends.
Ins 9300 is without Bluetooth and I can choose 90 day ltd Warranty, mail-in and 90 day hardware support only.

Quote:
Originally Posted by chevyrulz099
i can help you a lot more if i had prices of what you can spend, what you need, and what you want (:
I can spend about 1450$. I like gaming, but only strategics or managers.
post #5 of 107
Quote:
Originally Posted by noirnacre
Ins 6000D costs 100$ less but I'll get Bluetooth and 3Yr Ltd Warr,At-Home Service,and Tech Support plus Nights and Weekends.
Ins 9300 is without Bluetooth and I can choose 90 day ltd Warranty, mail-in and 90 day hardware support only.
Since it sounds like you won't be doing any heavy gaming, I'd recommend the 6000. Slightly cheaper, and you get a lot longer warranty.
The warranty is definitely useful - you get you're money's worth after just a couple of repairs (which you'll probably need at some point).
post #6 of 107
i agree.... 6000 suits you (and me) more than fine. save some money, dont get a 2.0, maybe 1.7-1.8 youll be happy trust me

look here, this supports my comments:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=116355
post #7 of 107
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keane3
I'd recommend the 6000. Slightly cheaper, and you get a lot longer warranty.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chevyrulz099
i agree.... 6000 suits you (and me) more than fine. save some money, dont get a 2.0, maybe 1.7-1.8 youll be happy trust me
Thanks guys,
Do u think The Sims 2 (or Black & White 2) runs smoothly at high settings at Ins 6000D with ATI X300 128MB?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keane3
The warranty is definitely useful - you get you're money's worth after just a couple of repairs (which you'll probably need at some point).
I wonder is that 3Yr Ltd Warrany international.
post #8 of 107
Quote:
Originally Posted by noirnacre
Do u think The Sims 2 (or Black & White 2) runs smoothly at high settings at Ins 6000D with ATI X300 128MB?
Probably - neither game is too graphically demanding.
post #9 of 107
Thread Starter 
Oi, I forgot about RPGs, this is my favs games too. It shows I do like playing
post #10 of 107
Quote:
Originally Posted by noirnacre
Well Hi, I'm planning to purchase new notebook very soon and I need this laptop to office work, photo edit, watch DVDs and play some games like Civilization 4, Age of Empires 3, Sims 2. I'd like to know which of these systems will be enough?
Has ATI Mobility Radeon X300 128MB shared or own memory?

DELL Inspiron 9300
- Intel Pentium M Processor 760 (2GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 17' UltraSharp Wide Screen XGA+ Display
- 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
- 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
- 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
or
- Intel Pentium M Processor 760 (2GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 17' UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife
- 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
- 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
- 100GB 5400rpm Hard Drive
or
- Intel Pentium M Processor 750 (1.86GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 17' UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife
- 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
- 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
- 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive

DELL Inspiron 6000D
- Intel Pentium M Processor 760 (2 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
- 15.4' UltraSharp WSXGA+ LCD Panel
- 1GB DDR2 SDRAM 2 Dimms
- 128MB DDR ATI's MOBILITY RADEON X300 PCI Express x16 Graphics
- 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive

Since gaming is a concern and one of your primary functions on the laptop, I would say definitely go with the Inspiron 9300, you get a nicer 17 inch screen that is an ultrasharp at wxga resoluiton unlike the 6000's wxga screen, you can get the 6800 go card with 256 megs of dedicated memory to play any game you want as opposed to the 6000's ati x300 which isnt a very stellar card. When youre talking about buying a laptop for gaming, its not enough to buy a laptop thats ENOUGH to play the games, it certainly wont be ENOUGH a six months down the road when you want to play newly released games so definitely go with the 9300. You also get dvi port and i think two extra usb ports. The 9300 is only half an inch deeper and an inch wider than the 6000 and only weighs about a pound more so size isnt really that much difference between the two systems but performance in the graphics department is and ofcourse the larger wide screen. The 9300 is also built more solid with magnesium alloy in the chassis and lcd lid.
With the 9300 you wont have to worry about whether or not your laptop is ENOUGH to play a game, it can handle anything you can throw at it.
Another disadvantage for the 6000 is that if you get a wxsga or wuxga screen, that poor little 128 meg half dedicated half shared memory has to work even harder to render all of those extra pixels making its gaming performance even worse.

I would go with a 9300 with a 1.86 ghz processor, the 6800 go nvidia card with 256 megs, a 5400 rpm drive 80 gig or 100 gig, same price or cheaper and alot quieter than that 60 gig 7200 rpm drive and the 5400 rpms perform about the same as the 7200's, its a little different than your desktop hard drives. Definitely get the 6800 card as it adds alot of performance and is much cheaper to buy with the laptop than to upgrade it later, its only what 100 to 150 dollars more than the 128 meg ati x300 card and the best upgrade option you can do for your laptop. You wont be sorry!!

Never buy a laptop to game on based on the present, sure maybe you can play the games you listed right now on a 6000D, but what about in six months when something new comes along that catches your eye and your attention?? Then you will be sorry. Having used both the 6000 and 9300, I cannot recommend the 6000 to anyone who is6000 buying a system primarily for gaming use and becuase its soo very expensive to upgrade a laptop, in the case of the 6000 there wont be any upgrades as its not designed for a more powerful card, no extra fan/ventilation for it. You would just be stuck!! But like I was saying, its very expensive to upgrade laptops as they are proprietary in nature, they dont follow a standard form factor so buying the best equipment you can upfront is the most cost effective solution when looking at overall cost of ownership. ALot of people make the mistake of buying a laptop that they can "just get by on" and that might be okay if we were talking desktops, you simply swap a part out and upgrade to a new one, but with lappies your options are rather limited to memory/cpu and graphics card only if the manufacturer offers an upgrade. You cant just go to best buy and say okay, I wanna new graphics card for my laptop. Folks who buy a laptop that they can "just get by on" will end up having to buy another laptop within a year or two because that "just get by" came and went rather quickly.

No offense to 6000 owners, I almost bought a 6000, but did my homework and now have no regrets nor will I in a year or two.
post #11 of 107
Thread Starter 
Does anyone know is it chance to purchase Internal Card With Bluetooth (not USB) in future and easily upgrade Inspiron 6000D? I can't find that card at Dells online store.

Can someone tell me how to get International Warranty?
post #12 of 107
6000 is cool, but you really cant game on it. I compare it to my rig with the 7800GTX, and its like comparing apples to nuclear bombs......not even close. Therefore, I feel shortchanged.
post #13 of 107
you people with your "you cant game on a i6000".

he will be fine with sims 2 on a x300 128card. i play it all the time on mine.

not everyone needs to spend so much on computers. but i see dell has it set up to where they are about the same price....

if you go i6000=== get wSxga+
if you go i9300---- get Ultra screen, and 6800.

there is no point in getting the 9300 if u get the x300 with it. you will be wasting the benificial setup of the 9300
post #14 of 107
Quote:
Originally Posted by chevyrulz099
you people with your "you cant game on a i6000".

he will be fine with sims 2 on a x300 128card. i play it all the time on mine.

not everyone needs to spend so much on computers. but i see dell has it set up to where they are about the same price....

if you go i6000=== get wSxga+
if you go i9300---- get Ultra screen, and 6800.

there is no point in getting the 9300 if u get the x300 with it. you will be wasting the benificial setup of the 9300

I agree, if u get the 9300 you should go wiht the 6800 nvidia go card, otherwise it makes no sense to buy it. I had the same dilemma you had and after doing specs on both systems, they were nearly the same price except the 9300 had the 6800 go card and a bigger screen. I paid 1477 with a 30 percent coupon ( there's one out right now by the way).

No one here said that you couldnt play games on the 6000, but you probably wouldnt play the latest games out. I got rid of my desktop 128 meg card two years ago as it couldnt do the gaming job with every game.

Since both these systems are similarly priced, it makes more sense to go with the 9300.
Games are requiring more and more graphics power, why by a laptop for gaming that has whats essentially an obselete graphics card in it?
Hence my decision to go with the 9300.
post #15 of 107
get the 9300 with a go6800
post #16 of 107
Or he could get the 9300 with the X300 and Warranty and upgrade to the 6800go when he can buy it with cash.
post #17 of 107
Just get the i9300 if you can afford it, aslong as you have a gig of ram both the 256MB and 128MB will work real well with a PM 2.0.

XP
post #18 of 107
my bro has a 6k, it works great, he plays everything on it with the 128 card. but he wishes he could upgrade. I wanted the better gpu, and I don't take it many places so its ok for me, I haven't gotten it yet, but my brothers 6k is pretty big, so I guess mine will be pretty big. I suppose it depends what you want
post #19 of 107
oh, don't get dell ram! I paid 180 for 2 gigs with newegg, would have been about 100 more through dell
post #20 of 107
Thread Starter 
Notebook has to replace my old desktop and will not travel too often. It supports Ins 9300 but I can't fit my budget when I pick Ins 9300.
Then I think I choose Ins 6000, it's cheaper and I get 3 YR warranty, but on the other side I'm not sure this warranty can be use in Europe.

Is it useful: Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition backup CD.

I have to make a decision in a few days, my m8 will be back soon from US. I can't wait for new holiday offer. Do u think Dell give us some extra before Thanksgiving Day?

I wish I could write here soon that my new Ins 6000 runs briliance with Photoshop, Macromedia and Sims 2 or Civ 4 (running in background).
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Dell Notebooks - General
NotebookForums.com › Forums › Notebook Manufacturers › Dell Forums › Dell Notebooks - General › 9300 or 6000: difficult choice