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lol, perhaps u were distracted by a bollywood movie while posting!
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No, IBM dropped the ball. See how long it took IBM to come out with a low power G5, which, conveniently, was finally announced, what, a week after the announcement of the Intel switch?

The switch to Intel will mean games will be easier to port now, however, which is good. They shouldn't have to spend much time anymore on converting SSE to Altivec, but they will have to convert from the Windows API to the Mac API. Also, one of the things Aspyr was saying when Doom 3 came out is that GCC isn't very mature on PPC yet, but on Intel GCC has a lot of nifty performance enhancing features that they'll be able to take advantage of now.

Also DirectX Games have been converted to OGL for Mac for years now...no DirectX needed.
The swtich to intel is because of the powerbooks do a google search. It has relavance to IBM but its main issue is its imac, powerbook, ibook, and mini. Apple can really not care so much for the powermac as it does not bring in hardly as much money as the others. Apple is switching becuase of the g4 chip in the powerbook and the ibook. THat is what is hurting there sales, there slow preformance. WHy do you think the powermacs will be the last to make the change?? It has not so much to do with IBM mostly MOtorola and there crapy chips. But IBM does play a role in it too ebcause if like you said they made the low power chips then it might be a differnt story.
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THat is what is hurting there sales, there slow preformance. WHy do you think the powermacs will be the last to make the change?? It has not so much to do with IBM mostly Motorola and there crapy chips.
actually most companies have their highest profit margins off of their more expensive products. it's the low end (i.e.-mac mini) where companies take the greatest risks in their profits. G5 based systems like the powermacs, and perhaps the iMacs, will likely have the latest transition bc of the fact that the G5 is a competitive chip. if they do happen to do a more accelerated transition it will likely be due to their interest in having the most uniform offering as they can have.
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actually most companies have their highest profit margins off of their more expensive products. it's the low end (i.e.-mac mini) where companies take the greatest risks in their profits. G5 based systems like the powermacs, and perhaps the iMacs, will likely have the latest transition bc of the fact that the G5 is a competitive chip. if they do happen to do a more accelerated transition it will likely be due to their interest in having the most uniform offering as they can have.
Apple sai it them sleves the powerbook ibook and imac bring all the money the powermac hardly does. If you dont believe me go call apple up and ask them your slef. If i am not most mistaken apples most popular mac is the imac and the second is the ibook. The g5 and the powerbok have the least sales.
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The swtich to intel is because of the powerbooks do a google search. It has relavance to IBM but its main issue is its imac, powerbook, ibook, and mini. Apple can really not care so much for the powermac as it does not bring in hardly as much money as the others. Apple is switching becuase of the g4 chip in the powerbook and the ibook. THat is what is hurting there sales, there slow preformance. WHy do you think the powermacs will be the last to make the change?? It has not so much to do with IBM mostly MOtorola and there crapy chips. But IBM does play a role in it too ebcause if like you said they made the low power chips then it might be a differnt story.
THe PowerMacs are going to be the last to switch to Intel because those are the Professional computers and by the time they switch the vast majority of the professional applications will have been ported to Intel and vetted enough so that there won't be any more bugs to them than the PPC versions. Professionals need stability you know.

IBM is the reason Apple switched. Not only did they drag their feet in getting the G5s up to speed, but IBM never intended in building a mobile or low power version of the G5. The low power G5 that IBM finally came out with was too little too late and not good enough for PowerBooks.

Also, once IBM secured deals with Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo for the next generation consoles, they didn't have to deal with Apple anymore. IBM can design one chip for each company, never have to touch the designs again, and sell more chips in one year than it sold to Apple since the beginning. With Apple they are constantly being pushed to make faster chips and they have to be careful how many they make at any one time lest they have surplus and lose money.
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Originally Posted by Laptop&lt View Post
Apple sai it them sleves the powerbook ibook and imac bring all the money the powermac hardly does. If you dont believe me go call apple up and ask them your slef. If i am not most mistaken apples most popular mac is the imac and the second is the ibook. The g5 and the powerbok have the least sales.
please provide a link for your claims. it's common knowledge that every company wants to try and inmcrease the ASP (everage selling price) of their products. that means moving more high end parts. this usually conflicts w/ what ppl buy, the cheaper and hence more popular items. AMD had struggled w/ this for some time, trying to get ppl to move customers to their upper end chips instead of their low end offerings. i.e.-Duron kicking the Celeron's butt and even the P4 in many instances.

u need to looks at profits and not just sales numbers. again, every company wants to sell as many of their high-profit products as possible. if a powermac sells for $3000 and has a 55% profit margin and an iBook sells for $999 w/ a 50% profit margin, do u want to sell 1 PM or 3 iBs to make more money? then consider how much money it may cost to provide tech support for 1 computer vs. 3 and u start to get an idea of how companies think w/ re: to profits. ppl will ultimately buy more of the cheaper mid-stream products than the high end ones but that doesn't mean a company doesn't, ideally, want to sell more of their high-end lines.

products like the Mini are entry level products. for many switchers it allows, u got it, entry into the OS and platform. if someone is comfortable w/ the product it increases the likelihood of their upgrading to a higher end product the next time they buy.
post #27 of 27
Don't see how you can go wrong with the new Powerbooks - that battery life sounds awesome. I'm a die-hard Mac fan (use a 2.5GHz G5 and a 12" PowerBook) for everything but gaming. The systems in my sig were purchased primarily for gaming, and to play around with the latest Windows software. I'd give anything for a Mac that could play all the latest games - but then we'd have to have them developed for the Mac, and that ain't gonna happen soon. That said, for the casual gamer, there are quite a few titles out there. In fact, playing Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Halo, and Neverwinter Nights on my Macs is what got me over to the dark side...
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