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I was looking for the best dvd player out there. So far this bravo d1 is best I found, it has a dvi port for 720p/1080i. http://www.vinc.com/product.asp?ID=31&PID=21&SEQ=1. Another player is the samsung at $299 http://www.samsung.com/Products/DVDP...D_HD931_sp.htm. Neither one looks like they read wmv format, which is the only 720p/1080i source I know of that has a couple of movies. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...tShowcase.aspx I'm debating if I should just use my desktop pc for now till more 720p/1080i movies are released. Anyone got some helpful info relating to this??

edit- Now that I realize it, I probably should have posted this in the off topic/desktop section. I believe this is just for notebook audio/video topics. Sorry all for not posting right.
post #2 of 11
Get the Samsung HD-931..that's what I have that I use in conjuction with my 43" Samsung DLP...the picture is ridiculous...plus it upconverts DVDs to 720p or 1080i depending on what you want...it too has a DVI output...

WMV format blows...you should be more interested in DivX support or MPEG,e tc.

The only better DVD player option you could get would be one that has HDMI outputs...but they are far and few to find one right now!

Video and pics: http://sagerforums.com/showthread.php?t=10801
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Thanks, is there any other movies besides terminator 2 in wmv that offers that high end resolution? I've heard someone talking about hd vcr movies. What you think of this dvd player http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=dp500&v=users . The firmware can be upgraded, but I did'nt see dvi port for 720p/1080i. From my understanding the new mpeg 4 is'nt higher resolution but a better storage format. I'm going to have to check into that hdmi connection you mentioned. Yeah, like your setup. I've heard hd projection is the best bang for your dollar right now.
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Is it possible to get 1080i out of a dvd player without using DVI (i.e. with RGB)? The DTV RGB ins on the back of our TV says it accepts 480i, 480p and 1080i. Also, is the picture from a progressive scan dvd player (480p) gonna look any better than a normal dvd player on our 1080i screen?

Thanks.
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From what I know almost all dvd disk are made not to display more than 480p, so a standard dvd player would be not be able to put out 1080i but only 480i and then if it was a progressive player you get the full 480p, so it would look better on your tv. I have yet to run across some hd dvd movies that play 720p/1080i, I'm still checking that out. I seen that movies have been recorded in 1080p but only released in dvd at 480p. All I found higher was wmv format for windows media player 9 mentioned in my previous post.

Oh yeah, to answer your first question, it is possible with a vga to get 1080i or 1080p, that vga port is more for computer use and I think they dont make any vga ports on players as of yet. Dvi or hdmi from my understanding is what connection gets you above 480p currently(call your tv mfg.), so you'd have to use your pc to play 1080i movies given you got the right software, video card with interlaced setting and powerful enough system. Windows media player 9 was saying you need 3ghz to get 1080 movies.

hope i did'nt lose you that edit.
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Originally Posted by pompomp
Is it possible to get 1080i out of a dvd player without using DVI (i.e. with RGB)? The DTV RGB ins on the back of our TV says it accepts 480i, 480p and 1080i. Also, is the picture from a progressive scan dvd player (480p) gonna look any better than a normal dvd player on our 1080i screen?

Thanks.
Yes it is possible to get higher resolutions through RGB or Component Video but the problem is still that those connections are ANALOG. Therefore they still undergo the digital --> analog --> digital conversion which leaves noise, artifacts, and all sorts of other unwanted goodies. DVI and HDMI are straight digital to digital.

Video in 480p definately isn't as good as quality as 1080i. The most common comparison is 1080i and 720p because the quality is so so close. The opportunity cost is 1080i has more lines of resolution but is an interlaced signal whereas 720 has less resolution but is progressive so it's best for fast moving imagery.
post #7 of 11
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yeah, element is right about the component input it should do 1080i. You know of course I'm not a expert on this ,so do not hold everything everything I post as facts. Just sharing what I been able to put together.
post #8 of 11
I think this thead brings up a general point about Home Theater culture though...that's its becoming madddddddd complex. Remember when a TV was just a TV and stereo audio was king lol. I literally spent the same amount of time if not a little more researching my HDTV purchase then my notebook purchase. There are so many technologies that one needs to understand when it comes to home theater systems. If the source and the cables and the receiving side aren't all in conjuction technology or setting wise it can all be a bust and that $13,000 plasma looks like
post #9 of 11
Thanks for the info, guys. I was searching for a dvd player that could do 1080i, and all I found was the Samsung HD931, and its more expensive brother the HD1000. I realize that they're upconverting to get 1080i since most folks aren't putting that much video data onto the discs, but what I was concerned about was whether I needed to have a DVI port in order to get 1080i. Both the Samsung's use DVI, but I couldn't find out if 1080i output was possible under any other method of output. I noticed in element's "Total Ownage" thread that S-video can handle 1600x1200 (progressive, I figure). The VGA port on the back of our TV says it should only operate at 60hz, 640x480. Is that just the manufacturer playing it safe or could it not handle higher resolution for some reason? The TV is a Mitsubishi WS-55511.
post #10 of 11
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I think the only way you know for sure is to call your mfg., it all depends on how they choose to wire it up inside. I would think your component would get you 1080i analog. I would'nt go above what they wrote on your vga port, you could damage your tv buy over working your electron guns inside and end up with a blury screen. Yeah, if they said 1080i it going to be the component jacks. I was thinking s-video only goes up to 720. Man, I just rented terminator two extreme edition at blockbuster, it got awesome hd at 1920 x 1080 for computer output. I think it is the only known mainstream film to be released that high. You have to go online to get license permission from microsoft to view it for 5 days, after that I don't know they keep renewing it or expect you to pay something. Kind of cheap of them not to make it clear in the stores. I think I'm going to get my own copy anyways, after seeing that picture, I'm hook and geeking from more flicks made like that.
post #11 of 11
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hdtv update

Got some intresting info about hdtv. First, it looks like the reason I could'nt find any hd dvds is because current formats has limited bandwidth, incapable of holding a full 1080 movie. In in the not so distant future talk of a version of mpeg 4 called hd-dvd-9 may come on to the market offering 1080i, but it looks like that might not happen because the current dvd disc structure using red laser technology is about to be redone with a incompatible blue laser in the next 1 year or so offering the higher bandwidth. So, for right now, the only thing on dvd that can be played in hd is on a pc through microsoft. If you want hd movies now, you're going to have to go digital vhs, there is quite a few movies that have been released in 1080i in the format called d-theater, check out this link offering of hd movies.http://www.uln.com/cgi-bin/vlink/dvhs_index.htm The cheapest digital vcr I've found is a jvc at $429. http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product....u=JVCHMDH30000 Also, if you're considering a hd tv like me, find one that has a firewire port to connect to a digital vcr for hd recording. My best find so far in this is a rca hdlp50w151 50" dlp projection with firewire ports at my local hh gregg store for $3,150. Reviews of these d-theater tapes say the picture quality is unbelievable and leave standard dvd in the dust; in fact, they say even with the very best electronics they are barely distinguishable from the studio master tapes, but they do not include some of the extra features of dvd. D-theater is for the videophiles who want the best possible showing, but when the blue laser comes out it may turn digital vcr into the laser disk players of old.

edit- Element, What's your thoughts about rca dlp?I like samsung too, but I could'nt get pass the value rca "seems" to be offering. Thanks for your input, it helped me research this mess of hd technology.
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