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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Hi,

This is my first post here and one begging for help!!

I have had my 3438 for about a month and all has gone well, it does every thing I need it to and runs up to date games quite well... well it did until I updated to the to the new drivers from Fujitsu website about a week ago and a half ago. Now it seems to struggle a lot more than it did and the frame rates seem to drop

I read somewhere that the latest driver aren't the best, could one of you clever people tell me what drivers run best with my laptop... and where I would find them?

Also will there be any problems trying to install an older driver? (If that’s what I need)

...By the way I'm not sure what drivers I have but my display properties show forceware version: 79.11, is this the driver version?
post #2 of 26
Thread Starter 
I've just found a thread posted by Kieran and it looks as tho they decided that 78.10 drivers were the ones to use!...

So I've downloaded them and gonna give them a whirl!

If anyone else has any other idea tho, I'd like to hear 'em!!
post #3 of 26
I use 78.10. For me its been the best so far.
post #4 of 26
Just in case that everyone is doing their best to avoid reading this thread I made, check it out now: http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=117485

After that the best drivers should pretty much be the latest available.
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 
RuptuReD,

So.. this is the post that should be most relevant to us 3438 owners, right?

'Try this:
http://download.laptopvideo2go.com/n...eries/8194.exe

Amilo 3438 Performance Bug is fixed

http://home.eplus-online.de/gaetcke/notebook.htm#35a

Get here the new Fujitsu-Siemens Geforce 6800 go Bios Update:
http://home.eplus-online.de/gaetcke/...nvwinflash.zip

After install, you can use all 81er and 82er Series Driver with full Performance
.'

There is a guy a little further down the thread who posts that he is having problems installing these drivers to his 3438, have you tried yet? If so was it a success?

Also the original guy says that once both the updates are installed you can use all the 81 and 82 drivers... can you get these from Fujitsu-Siemens or elsewhere?

Thanks guys!!!
post #6 of 26
I updated the video bios and have had no problems after that. I'm currently using the 81.94 driver without any tweaks whatsoever
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
Hi Tapdance,

I just wanted to make sure I was installing the right files before I go ahead and do it and mess it all up!!

The first file I should be installing is simply called 8194.exe which is the first link from City Cobra's post.

Then the file nvwinflash.zip, once I have done that where will I find the 81.94 drivers?

Thanks again!! and sorry for being a dumb ass!!!
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
By the way....

What sort of performance increase can I expect?

anyone got any before and after scores??
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
Hold on....

I really am being a dumb ass!!!

The 8194.exe is the driver, and nvwinflash.zip is the video bios update!!, right?

So I already have what I need?

maybe I should go shoot myself now!!
post #10 of 26
LOL

Your last post seems to be correct. Just remember to install the FW with the modified .inf from laptopvideo2go.
post #11 of 26
81.26 is the latest driver so far that works w/o performance problems with unflashed 3438/4438.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by tapdance
I updated the video bios and have had no problems after that. I'm currently using the 81.94 driver without any tweaks whatsoever
Have you tried to overclock, how far you can go? Is your default GPU/Mem
speed 325/600? I just got my 4438 and not flashed yet - lots of work to copy and install everything back from portable backup made on different machine.
post #13 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tapdance
I updated the video bios and have had no problems after that. I'm currently using the 81.94 driver without any tweaks whatsoever
When you say without any tweaks taptance, do you mean without the modified .inf from laptopvideo2go?... Just wondering if I can flash the bios and install the new drivers without the .inf file, as I can't seem to find it!!!

Does anyone fancy posting a link to the file for me??
post #14 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deano440
'Try this:
http://download.laptopvideo2go.com/n...eries/8194.exe

Amilo 3438 Performance Bug is fixed

http://home.eplus-online.de/gaetcke/notebook.htm#35a

Get here the new Fujitsu-Siemens Geforce 6800 go Bios Update:
http://home.eplus-online.de/gaetcke/...nvwinflash.zip

After install, you can use all 81er and 82er Series Driver with full Performance
.'
I don't understand the second link? It links to a page in German with a million other links.
post #15 of 26
Will all these updates be overclocking the graphic card? I don't want to do that, as I don't play games. I just want the stability to improve.

I'm a music producer, and when tracking audio waveforms (in Steinberg Wavelab) the screen sometimes glitches the audio (pops + clicks) as the screen scrolls. There are no issues when the screen is set to be static (so that it doesn't follow the waveform), it only happens when the waveform scrolls. It's a pain.
post #16 of 26
Don't get the second link? That's just a link to the homepage of the guy (City Cobra) who posted the solution on the laptopvideo2go. There is some additional information about the issue there, too bad really that it is in german only.

All these updates don't overclock the card in any way.

The glitching could be related to the CPU switching the performance level. Have you underclocked your CPU? If you have, you already have a program running that allows you to force maximal performance. Try doing that and see whether it has any effect.
post #17 of 26
Hi Rup', the laptop's used via the mains electrics, and forced to full speed (2GHz) by using the "always on" mode.

I haven't under/over-clocked anything (graphics or CPU). Besides, you can't over/under-clock the CPU on this lappie even if you wanted to. =/

This glitching is impacting my work, though.

I'm going to try and upgrade to the latest GPU BIOS and drivers for the GeForce 6800, see if that helps.

So basically all I need to do is flash the bios using the "nvwinflash.zip" file.... Then install the version 81.94 forceware drivers? Can you install the new driver over the original (version 78.10 in my case), or do you have to uninstall the original drivers first?

Lastly, what's this modded *.inf file about?

Cheers
post #18 of 26
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Hi Rup', the laptop's used via the mains electrics, and forced to full speed (2GHz) by using the "always on" mode.
Hi, actually, the "always on" in the power options just effects how quickly your computer will start taking steps to reduce the electricity consumed if you don't to anything.
For example, if you have the "always on" option checked, it just means that your computer will never enter the Standby/Hibernate modes and the hard-drives will also never go to the standby mode.
So, these options do not affect the CPU or its performance in any way.
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I haven't under/over-clocked anything (graphics or CPU). Besides, you can't over/under-clock the CPU on this lappie even if you wanted to. =/
Sorry about the whole misunderstanding with the underclocking business. My bad there. I had made a typo, I meant UNDERVOLTING not UNDERCLOCKING. *slaps his forehead*

So the question was, have you underVOLTED your CPU? If you haven't, there is a very good thread about it here: http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=70943
Just follow the instructions in the first post and you should do just fine. I did that and it worked like a charm. Even if you don't get any other benefits from it, the reduced heat is a nice thing on its own.
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I'm going to try and upgrade to the latest GPU BIOS and drivers for the GeForce 6800, see if that helps.

So basically all I need to do is flash the bios using the "nvwinflash.zip" file.... Then install the version 81.94 forceware drivers? Can you install the new driver over the original (version 78.10 in my case), or do you have to uninstall the original drivers first?
Yeah, it should be enough just to do that.
You know, I actually tried to get "City Cobra" to explain the solution to the graphic card problem in a bit more depth, for all of us who don't understand german and therefore can't get the details from his webpage, but this is all I was able to squeeze out from him: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/...ndpost&p=22964

Seems almost like that germans are a bit similar to french in their willingness to speak english...

You shouldn't need to uninstall the old drivers first.
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Lastly, what's this modded *.inf file about?
You mean what it does? Well, the "normal" one you can get from the laptopvideo2go just allows you to install the drivers on a laptop, it doesn't do anything else.

You just download it, and after you have uncompressed the Nvidia drivers somewhere you go to that directory and overwrite the original .inf file with the one you downloaded. After that you just run the "install.exe" in the same directory to actually install the drivers.


...One more thing about the glitching, if you follow the instructions I linked and undervolt your CPU, then you will have the RightMark CPU Clock Utility (RMClock) loading every time you open windows (so that the voltage settings you determined for the CPU will get applied).

That utility will allow you to manually set the performance profile that is used for the CPU (there will be a icon in the system tray for the RMClock).
You could try setting it to "Maximal" and then checking whether the problem with the glitching went away (it might, but not sure).

Sorry 'bout the long post and the funny grammar that must be evident in some sentences... midnight and a nonnative engrish speaker... a bad combination.
post #19 of 26
Excellent, thanks for that Ruptured.

I hadn't underclocked the CPU, but will look into that after reading the link you gave!

Seeing as I do exceptionally intensive CPU work, though, would the lower voltages possibly stop the CPU working fully when it suddenly passes a threshold when it requests full load (when I'd imagine the CPU suddenly needs and consumes much more current/power)? I guess I'd have to undervolt it when the CPU is running at full load, so I know how little volts I can get away with comfortably?

I rarely use the laptop away from a power source (mains electrics), though, and on the odd time I do take it on the road I don't do intensive stuff on it. The intensive load is only placed on it when I'm in the music studio with it hooked up to the mains.

Regards the modded *.inf file, I visited the Laptopvideo2go site, and the 81.94 thread:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/...showtopic=8210

Which one should I download? I'm wanting higher performance as opposed to game quality (because I rarely, if ever, play games), so I guess I should pick the "Mobile Performance Inf"? Or would just the standard "Mobile Modded inf" be suitable?

Thanks ever so much

PS >
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Seems almost like that germans are a bit similar to french in their willingness to speak english...
Made me laugh, did that.

Your grammar and spelling are fantastic. Better than the majority of English speakers!
post #20 of 26
Heh, thanks for the compliments.

I think that the plain "modded inf" would be all you need.
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Seeing as I do exceptionally intensive CPU work, though, would the lower voltages possibly stop the CPU working fully when it suddenly passes a threshold when it requests full load (when I'd imagine the CPU suddenly needs and consumes much more current/power)? I guess I'd have to undervolt it when the CPU is running at full load, so I know how little volts I can get away with comfortably?
After you read through the post you'll notice that it details the process of determining the stable voltage for both the minimum and maximum performance situations. So there should be no problem. Your minimum voltages will be a bit higher than mine (because the faster processor) which you can see in my sig, minimum being 0,700 volts and maximum 1,036 volts for me.
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