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Adding and removing battery in hibernate mode

post #1 of 25
11/17/05 at 9:21pm
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I know it is recommended that a notebook be off when adding and removing a battery, but can I hurt my Inspiron 6000 or the battery by adding the battery or removing it while the notebook is in hibernate mode and the AC adapter is connected?
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post #2 of 25
11/17/05 at 9:30pm
Its best not to add or remove anything from your computer (like the battery, USB devices, etc.) while its in hibernation.

This thread might help:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=116368
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post #3 of 25
11/18/05 at 1:48am
It's actually completely off in Hibernation, but supposedly you shouldn't change the battery in Hibernation. Keane3 is right that it's not recommended, but I've done it a few times and my 700m hasn't blown up yet. Maybe I've just been lucky.
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post #4 of 25
11/18/05 at 3:05am
When the laptop is in hibernation, it is turned off. So, there should be absolutely nothing wrong with taking out the battery, harddrive, screen, keys, or whatever your heart desires while the computer is in hibernation. The only difference between it and shutting down is that the an image of your programs is saved to your harddrive as it goes into hibernation.

Keane3, I think the posts in your thread that say the computer is not off are incorrectly referring to hibernation, when they are really talking about sleep/standby. The websites they referenced did not differentiate between the two, so they most likely were grouping them together, when they really are different things. Standby is still on, hibernate is off.

So, why would it not be recommended to change the battery while in hibernation? I see it possible, but unlikely.
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post #5 of 25
11/18/05 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by jmmmmm
So, there should be absolutely nothing wrong with taking out the battery, harddrive, screen, keys, or whatever your heart desires while the computer is in hibernation.
You're right, there shouldn't be anything wrong, but for some reason some people have problems when they remove and add things to the computer while its in hibernation.

I'm not sure why this is - I guess computers are just weird sometimes.
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post #6 of 25
11/18/05 at 1:57pm
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Thanks for the replies. I was worried that it might cause some electrical problems.
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post #7 of 25
11/18/05 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by Keane3
You're right, there shouldn't be anything wrong, but for some reason some people have problems when they remove and add things to the computer while its in hibernation.

I'm not sure why this is - I guess computers are just weird sometimes.
Oh I see, interesting. Hibernation is handled poorly by xp; maybe it doesn't like that when it comes back, the computer is different than what it expected from the saved image? Maybe I shouldn't mess with my computer when it's in hibernation..hmm...eh
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post #8 of 25
11/18/05 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by Keane3
You're right, there shouldn't be anything wrong, but for some reason some people have problems when they remove and add things to the computer while its in hibernation.

I'm not sure why this is - I guess computers are just weird sometimes.

well when u hibernate it...it writes everything windows has on it to the HD.

i have an external HD. if i have it one when i hibernate it, and unplug it before i turn it back on , i get an error. no big deal, but guys, this is how windows is. no harm done, it just looks for the drive, as it is told it was there when it unHibernated!

you can remove things safely while in hibernation, you will just get erros when you turn it on.
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post #9 of 25
11/18/05 at 7:58pm
Not to be nosy but what are the circumstances that would require you to remove the battery while in hibernation?
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post #10 of 25
11/18/05 at 8:13pm
The most likely answer (to me) is if you only have battery power available (IE no plugin) and want to switch batteries without closing all your apps down. Hibernation to switch batteries sounds like a perfect answer to this scenario to me. I can see Windows flipping out over certain hardware changes tho, from its perspective you've managed to take a peice of equipment and put in another instantaneously. I'd hope it would survive a battery swap, though. I could certainly see it panicing over other hardware changes. It will not cause any electrical issues, only OS/software issues, to whomever asked that question.
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post #11 of 25
11/19/05 at 1:13am
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Originally Posted by aaron2486
I know it is recommended that a notebook be off when adding and removing a battery, but can I hurt my Inspiron 6000 or the battery by adding the battery or removing it while the notebook is in hibernate mode and the AC adapter is connected?
With the AC adapter connected, you could also do it in Stand By or without shutdown, as long as power was not interrupted from AC Power Supply.
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post #12 of 25
11/19/05 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by Andevian
The most likely answer (to me) is if you only have battery power available (IE no plugin) and want to switch batteries without closing all your apps down. Hibernation to switch batteries sounds like a perfect answer to this scenario to me. I can see Windows flipping out over certain hardware changes tho, from its perspective you've managed to take a peice of equipment and put in another instantaneously. I'd hope it would survive a battery swap, though. I could certainly see it panicing over other hardware changes. It will not cause any electrical issues, only OS/software issues, to whomever asked that question.
battery is not built into the PC in any way (into the motherboard).

there is no way windows would whine about changing power sources.

thats like saying you are on your XP computer, on AC, and you want to move to another room. you decide to unplug your laptop and run off battery till you arrive in the other room.

that defeats the whole purpose of having a portable computer.

That is a funny idea.
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post #13 of 25
11/19/05 at 11:32pm
When a laptop is in hibernation, does it need power at all? Say for instance, laptop is on AC power (no batter connected), it is put in hibernation, while it is in hibe, it is unplugged from AC, and moved to another room and powered up with again with AC. Will it come out of hibernation correctly? Any problems or long term effects with doing this?
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post #14 of 25
11/20/05 at 1:10am
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Originally Posted by FearNo1
When a laptop is in hibernation, does it need power at all? Say for instance, laptop is on AC power (no batter connected), it is put in hibernation, while it is in hibe, it is unplugged from AC, and moved to another room and powered up with again with AC. Will it come out of hibernation correctly? Any problems or long term effects with doing this?
Laptops don't use any power while hibernating, so it shouldn't be a problem to completely disconnect power while in hibernation.
This was discussed quite a bit in this thread:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=116368
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post #15 of 25
11/20/05 at 2:37am
Uhm does no one here move their computer? Every time I bring my computer to school I hibernate while plugged in (to keep the battery at 100), take it to school and turn it on there for use. There are no hibernation problems - and I wouldn't expect any! You're completely turning off the computer, so I don't think a battery swap would matter either. I always switch between battery and AC during hibernation.
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post #16 of 25
11/20/05 at 3:14am
Is hibernation the same as standby? I put my computer on standby but it will use anywhere from 1-10% depending how long I go into standby. I was standby for about 8 hrs today and I lost about 8% of battery life. So they must be different?
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post #17 of 25
11/20/05 at 1:20pm
standy leaves ram and a few other things on. basically you are "suspending" to the ram, nothing is written to the HD.

HIBERNATE, you write everything thats in ram to the HD. no power is used while in hibernate, so no power is needed.

standby DOES use power. maybe like 5-10% every hour? not sure, but it varies depending on the battery size u have.

here check this.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...astresume.mspx
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post #18 of 25
11/20/05 at 5:23pm
i dont think anything 'electrical' might be damaged, but i wouldnt be suprised if files/registry keys got corrupted, worst case scenario software is damaged.
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post #19 of 25
11/20/05 at 6:56pm
I have put the laptop into hibernate and swapped batteries many times. I usually only need to do this once I've started working and realize that I forgot to recharge my 4-cell battery the night before. Can't say I've ever had any problems with it and I've done it probably 20 times.
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post #20 of 25
11/20/05 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by MR_HEMI
i dont think anything 'electrical' might be damaged, but i wouldnt be suprised if files/registry keys got corrupted, worst case scenario software is damaged.
Uh... this is based on what logic?
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