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post #141 of 486
Now I understand. I had set them manually and they remain in the panel (in other words, they are still set after reboot), but I guess that's no guarantee. Thanks. This makes much more sense now.
post #142 of 486

Oups - Big Problem !

Hi,

I had the 7800 GTX working OK at 440/1100 and tried the 450/1100 combination from the ISO on the first post.

It stopped while flashing the ROM and now my new laptop won't even boot !

I'm currently waiting to talk to Dell about a replacement card...

Is there ANY way to bring the laptop back to life ?

I guess it's my bad.

Thanks for any idea !
post #143 of 486
7800GTX overrides the soft overclock, resets back to stock no matter what you do. Only way to force it is the bios flashing.

Wow yeah interrupting a bios flash is the worst thing you can do to a system, if you can't even get it to post to the bios screen when you turn the system on then its dead, nothing you can do.
post #144 of 486
Yikes (throws out disc), sounds like a bad BIOS made it onto the CD. Or some freak electrical surge happened during the BIOS flash... I don't have any suggestions as to what to do next... maybe with some electrical engineering knowledge you could repgrogram the BIOS using another computer, but I doubt it.
post #145 of 486
Quote:
Originally Posted by Striph
7800GTX overrides the soft overclock, resets back to stock no matter what you do. Only way to force it is the bios flashing.

Wow yeah interrupting a bios flash is the worst thing you can do to a system, if you can't even get it to post to the bios screen when you turn the system on then its dead, nothing you can do.
Well the way he described it, it sounds like it stopped by itself, I think it's universally understood that interrupting a BIOS flash = dead computer. Though, considering it's on battery backup a power fluctuation seems unlikely the fault. Anyone successfully flashed to 450/1100 using the ISO from the first post? -- for god's sake don't try it now, but if anyone has, that might rule out a problem with the ISO file.
post #146 of 486
Also, yboivin, which ISO did you use? hammermd's (with the loading prompts) or striph's (with no loading prompts)?
post #147 of 486
My ISO is HammerD's exact copy but I removed the timer on the bootup and updated the flash utility, other than that they're identical. I've used the CD a few dozen times now, although I haven't used the 450/1100 rom I have used the 450/1300 and the 440/1250, I'm using the latter of the two.
post #148 of 486

Answers

Hi,

I used the hammermd ISO. I did NOT interrupt the flashing myself !

The laptop was on AC power so there might have had a fluctuation but I doubt it...

No one should try 450/1100 on the original ISO. I know for a fact that 440/1250 and 440/1100 worked fine.

What happend ? I'll never know.

The important thing now is to get a new card !

Thanks !
post #149 of 486

Happy ending

Hi,

Well, happy ending after all. A Dell technician is on it's way with a new motherboard and video card to be replaced tomorrow.

Lesson learned: I will NEVER EVER again try to overclock. The 10% I got from overclocking (7335 vs 6600 in 3DMark05) is not worth the trouble of going through Dell Support.

Peace of mind has it's benefits !

Thanks for all the help !
post #150 of 486
Quote:
Originally Posted by yboivin
It stopped while flashing the ROM and now my new laptop won't even boot !
I'm having a little trouble understanding this. The System BIOS and VGA BIOS are on separate ROMs. If you have a bad VGA BIOS flash you should end up with a blank screen. However, you should still be able to blindly type the command to flash the VGA BIOS again. Did the computer really do nothing when you pressed the power button, or do you say it failed to boot because you didn't see anything appear on the screen?
post #151 of 486
Generally computers that aren't designed for "headless" operation won't boot without a functioning video card. So yes, a bad video flash will render the computer totally unoperable.
post #152 of 486
Hi!
Could you include 1300MHz (or more) for higher clock speeds?
post #153 of 486
Bumb.
Ok. I'm an idiot.

What's the EASIEST way to get a good clock with this? I read about some of the flashes not working.

I"m currenting getting 66xx. I would REALLY like to get a min of 7500.

This needs to be REALLY simple.... I'm an idiot,remeber?
post #154 of 486
1) Download this: http://www.ldb4.com/7800BIOS.ISO
2) If you don't already have a CD burning program download this: http://static.slysoft.com/SetupCloneCD.exe
3) Put in a blank CD-R or CD-RW media.
4) Install and run CloneCD, click the button that says Write from ImageFile, select 7800BIOS.ISO and continue to burn the CD.
5) Reboot, hold F2, select boot from CD drive.
6) Hit enter until you are given the R:\ prompt
7) Type dir /w to see a list of the BIOS files on the CD. They'll look like 425C1200.ROM etc. You'll want to start off with something moderate like 425C1200.ROM before moving up to higher speeds.
8) Type nvflash (name of bios file.rom) and hit Y. For example type 'nvflash 425c1200.rom' without quotes to flash your BIOS to 425MHz core clock and 600MHz memory clock (DDR doubles that 600MHz into 1200MHz effective speed -- just a bit of technical info for ya).
9) Reboot (hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete), run ATItool and do an artifact scan for 5-10 minutes or so and make sure it doesn't get any artifacts. It should say 0 artifacts in xx:xx minutes which should be the same length of time since you began the test. If you get artifacts the two times will be different and it will also briefly say something about 'delta of xx' meaning it detected artifacts. If you get no artifacts you can safely go up another clock speed so reboot and repeat steps 5-9 until you find a comfortable overclock for your machine. Once you get artifacts in ATItool, back off 5-10Mhz on the core clock and use that.

If you want to go back to the original (stock) clocks, type nvflash original.rom at the R:\ prompt.
post #155 of 486
Now your talking!
Thanks man!
I started off with 450/1200 ....couldn't help myself.
I've got 15 minutes in ATI tool so far....no errors.

Thank you Thank you Thank you REP POINTS ++++++
post #156 of 486

200more

Just for you 3Dmark whores

I get about 200 more points using the extremeG version of the driver, compared to the laptopvideo2go version

cheers
post #157 of 486
The damn extreme g version could n't make it through 3dmk05 without any oc on my machine... I also had a tough time installing.....(took three tries). Laptopvideo2go took my 3dmk score down 30 points from the getgo from crappy dell drivers.

OK, NOW ON TO THE GOOD STUFF
Here are my results...I think yall like to seee these?
450/1200 stable for 15 mins in ati tool and scored 7300 in 3dmk05 with normal startup items(5% processor usage)
450/1300 artifacts
510/1250 art
480/1200 errors
465/1250 good for 5 mins in ati...then artifacted...86 degrees
460/1250 errors
460/1200 stable 16 minutes staying here for a while tired of testing for now runs at about 90 degrees in atitool 7424 in 3dmk05

If anyone has any suggested numbers to try I'm willing I'm just not sure which way I should go from here. I don't feel like 8k is a possibility without a major processor upgrade or some better drivers.
post #158 of 486
I think 460 on the core with no artifacts at default voltage is good. If you're feeling adventurous you can increase the voltage by creating your own BIOS using Nibitor, up the "Voltage ID" to VID 7 and you'll be able to bump up the core and/or memory clock a bit more without artifacting, but it will run a little hotter.

The instructions on how to do that are around here somewhere. I'm sure you can find it. edit: link in my sig "VID 7 overvolt"

edit: however it seems you're getting artifacts with minor OC on the memory? try running a low core but high memory like 425/1250 or 425/1300 and see if you still get artifacts... If you memory doesn't overclock well on this card you might want to try the other one.
post #159 of 486
I'm running various speed checks now.

Thus far, I've gone from 445/1250 to 450/1300 to 460/1300 (running now).

Scores from stock to current are (using the 81.95 drivers from LaptopVideo2Go):

High Quality Runs
Stock: 6533
445/1250: 7281
450/1300: 7386
460/1300: 7459
470/1300: 7524

High Performance Runs
450/1300: 7508
460/1300: 7604
470/1300: 7673


Is there any way to get you to code more bioses with higher RAM speeds? I think there might be some more headroom to play with, but all the ones you have on the ROM are limited to 1300 on the high end.

Excellent work, by the way.

I stopped at 470/1300, not because I had problems, but because I wanted to work core clocks up with the 1300 memory (or greater).

Should have noted what I have, eh?

XPS Gen2
2GHz Dothan
1GB RAM
60GB 7200RPM HD

Added image validation link for high score.

http://server.counter-strike.net/ima.../7800go2k5.png
post #160 of 486
In an attempt to create the current state of bootable CD that's listed here (both of them), I seem to be failing miserably. Anyone have any suggestions on how to get this to work properly so that I can add my newly modified bios files?
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