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post #41 of 50
12/1/05 at 4:26am
I think you are all forgeting the fact that Alienware's P4 is a 64bit proc and the PM is a 32 bit. This may not matter at the moment, but in a year or two 64bit Vista platform will be in its full charge, and beleive me, the difference betwenn 32 and 64 is awesome!
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post #42 of 50
12/1/05 at 6:28am
I currently own a hpzd7188 with a P4 prescott/desktop processor I believe and go 5700. I will never EVER buy another laptop with a desktop processor in it. Heat issues are a nightmare and gaming is effected by the heat. Lagging on cs:s makes it no fun. Needing to run fans and stupid crap is lame.

Not sure about the price quotes that were posted but the dell quoted was not a 9300 or xps which is the forum we are in so why dont we use AW and others 17inch laptops and I am sure the prices will be quiet different.
So lets look for an AW m5700 with a go 6800 and same specs as the dell I just ordered its 1,457.00 and you get AW's super crappy customer service which has been the subject of many internet posts.
Dell price for a basic 9300 is 1,198.00 with a go 6800. So 257.00 more for uh nothing but to say you live under a rock and dont know how bad AW treats people and all the problems they have with there lappys lately.

Actually though I paid 999.00 for mine and got the 6800 ultra of ebay for 200.00 Oh yeah then I added the accidental damage warranty to my dell because well accidents happen you know .
So in the end for less the alienware I got the same laptop with a 6800 ultra and an accidental damage waranty which just may be usefull in 9ish months as I gots butter fingers. Lets not forget about dells coupons and the fact that finding parts is gonna be easier makes it better. Lets also not forget that dell has gotten many positive write ups and awards for customer service, but AW doesnt.
I would also just say anyone buying a laptop for hardcore gaming is silly, I bought mine for light gaming at work and school and at friends houses. for serious gamming I pieced an amd 64 sli system for less than my laptop and it pwns.
Mike
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post #43 of 50
12/2/05 at 2:38am
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No where did I ever say I would buy an AW laptop. No way in hell would I EVER own a P4. Just wanted to set you strait on that. Now on the other hand I would own an AW laptop with an A64 X2, 2gigs of ram (absolutely no need for 4 gigs), 2 7200rpm HDD's in raid 0, 7800GTX GO. Yes I would own this lappy in a heartbeat. Would I pay $2000 more for it than the XPS 2? HELL NO!!!! The performance increase for the X2 and raid 0 is in no way shape or form enough for me to pay an extra $2000.


My desktop will have an opteron 165 dual core (the opteron has 2MB L2 cahce, 1MB for each core compared to the 1MB and 512 for each core on the 3800+ X2 and the opty overclocks much better and they cost the same), a second 7800GTX to run SLI and I am getting rid of the raptor and getting 2 160GB SATA 2 drives to run in raid 0.
Nice.
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post #44 of 50
12/4/05 at 7:19am
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what's so bad about having a p4 in your laptop? i think that AMD and Intel are both fast in their own way...intel has their hyperthreading and AMD has their good frame rates for gamers. I personally prefer to buy an AMD notebook but i always choose the FX-57 when i'm customizing a notebook and it comes out to be around $4,300-4,800 when i'm finished with the GeForce Go 7800 GTX and all the other customized options. i'm actually getting a notebook for christmas but i don't know what to choose, well i have some idea of what i want. either an Area-51m 7700 or a Dell XPS M170. from what i hear, the XPS is better because it has longer battery life, weighs less, and produces less heat. is this true? and that the centrino M processor uses less energy. is there a big difference between the Centrino M and the P4? (NOT IN ENERGY, IN SPEED)?
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post #45 of 50
12/4/05 at 2:14pm
Per the sales guys at alienware, all of the 7700 platforms with desktop processors get 35-45 minutes battery life. That's it.

Makes the idea of a laptop silly to me.
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post #46 of 50
12/15/05 at 12:13am
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i want to get that new AMD laptop from alienware or sager because i hear everywhere that AMD rules in gaming and that P4 sucks because of heat and AMD out preforms it or something but i always configure the AMD laptops to have at least the FX-55 but it comes out to be around 4500 dollars so i think i'll just get a dell m170 with its good battery life and thinness.
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post #47 of 50
12/27/05 at 3:27pm
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i think i'll just get the Area-51 m5700 instead of the Inspiron 9300
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post #48 of 50
12/27/05 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by Tilen
I think you are all forgeting the fact that Alienware's P4 is a 64bit proc and the PM is a 32 bit. This may not matter at the moment, but in a year or two 64bit Vista platform will be in its full charge, and beleive me, the difference betwenn 32 and 64 is awesome!
Dell will have 64 bit CPU's well before then. Not ahead of time as a marketing ploy. :-)

-Doc
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post #49 of 50
12/27/05 at 11:14pm
Pentium M > A64 for CPU power, just wish the P-M had more bandwidth. Anyway, Vista doesn't seem like it's anything to get excited over, and by the time they get all the patches out so it doesnt run like crap, I'll have a new lappy .
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post #50 of 50
12/27/05 at 11:45pm
Not only that, Alienware says their A64 and Pentium Desktop laptop machines only get 45 minutes of battery life.

Just doesn't cut it.
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