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Frequent blue screens on my 7405GX?

post #1 of 25
11/23/05 at 9:02am
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Need some help decoding what this means:

"A thread released a resource it did not own"

My event viewer shows a catagory of (102) and an event ID of (1003).

This will happen out of the "blue" while browsing. I think it is about time for a complete reinstall, but I would like to hold off until I get my new 7K100 100GB hard drive.
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post #2 of 25
11/24/05 at 12:31am
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Anyone?
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post #3 of 25
11/25/05 at 12:22am
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Well, I found out from the event viewer under the system log, that one second before the BSOD, norton relased the script blocking service and another second before that, norton stopped the password service. After looking further down my log, this is the same pattern that happened every time I got a BSOD. So I removed norton system works completely and now all is well. I will give it a few days and then reinstall it.

I am really starting to hate symantec products, any other software that is as good, but without all the little bugs?
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post #4 of 25
11/25/05 at 2:08am
Avast, and it's free. For registry cleaning, TweakNow seems to work well.

As for the BSODs, if you want me to analyze them, feel free to post or mail me your minidump files and they can be used to verify the cause of the BSOD.
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post #5 of 25
11/25/05 at 12:15pm
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Well that did not fix the problem, they came back again. I ran memtest all night and it came back fine, and I also ran the hitachi diag and the HDD came back fine. I really think the way it is acting it is software related. Where can find the minidump files to email to you? What is your email?

I am willing to do a reformat and reinstall if needed. I may just take this time to buy that 7K100 100GB I always wanted.
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post #6 of 25
11/25/05 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by Compman55
Well that did not fix the problem, they came back again. I ran memtest all night and it came back fine, and I also ran the hitachi diag and the HDD came back fine. I really think the way it is acting it is software related. Where can find the minidump files to email to you? What is your email?

I am willing to do a reformat and reinstall if needed. I may just take this time to buy that 7K100 100GB I always wanted.
minidumps can be found in the c:\windows\minidump folder. also, turn up what's being dumped to a kernel dump, I find those a lot easier to analyze myself.

that can be done in System Properties. Go to the Advanced tab, and settings in the Startup and Recovery area. change the dropdown from Small Memory Dump to Kernel Memory Dump. then it'll create a minidump and also a MEMORY.DMP in c:\windows

you can also send them to me (get more than one pair of eyes on it ) at this e-mail address
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post #7 of 25
11/25/05 at 2:59pm
my name at bellsouth dot net (with or without underscore should work)
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post #8 of 25
11/25/05 at 3:57pm
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Well, for the mean time, i swapped out the hard drive with another spare a had laying around and am going to try that for a bit. But i will indeed email you guys those files so maybe I don't have to trash the current install just yet.
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post #9 of 25
11/25/05 at 11:23pm
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Well the new hard drive does the same thing with a fresh install. I opened it up and swapped out the ram with my original and will go from there. It may be hardware after all. The heat pipe was quite dusty but I sprayed everything out real good and it still did not help.
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post #10 of 25
11/26/05 at 2:49am
hmmm....

quite interesting stuff in these minidumps... and the last one on the list says the crash was caused by the USB port drivers (that time)

definately i want you to switch it to kernel dumping, that'll give much more information to work with if it crashes again... a lot of stuff isn't stored in the minidumps

also out of curiosity, what BIOS version is installed?
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post #11 of 25
11/26/05 at 9:41am
I had a couple I couldn't do crap with, and all the others were definately pretty "exotic" , with the exception of the last one. A full kernel dump would certainly give us more info on what is going on (if the RAM swap doesn't help).
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post #12 of 25
11/26/05 at 11:32am
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What the f^%$, the ram swap worked!!!!!! Damit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like I will need to buy some new ram. Although the day before I ran memtest all night without an error. The ram worked flawless for a year. Could something on the motherboard go bad and cause the ram to no longer be compatable. I removed the outer stick and it still blue screened, so I swapped the inner one and it fixed it. Right now I am using the factory 512mb.
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post #13 of 25
11/26/05 at 12:17pm
Highly unlikely anything on the motherboard pooped. With the memory controller completely on-die, pretty much the only thing between the CPU and the memory slot is just the traces. Before buying new RAM, you may want to check with your RAM manufacturer. Most RAM has a lifetime warranty now. Spending the money to upgrade to 3200 would probably not be worth it if you can get yours replaced for free. There is very little difference in performance on an A64 or S754 Sempron system between memory timings (thanks again to the ondie controller).

Just out of curiosity, did you run memtest or memtest+?
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post #14 of 25
11/26/05 at 12:47pm
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I dont know it was version 3.2. I used the Legacy Electroics brand from outpost. I just put it in my 6811 and will see if it gives BSOD's on that machine.
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post #15 of 25
11/26/05 at 3:44pm
3.2 is regular memtest. You may want to start using memtest+. http://www.memtest.org It is based off regular memtest, but is a little more thorough, especially on S754 Semprons, A64, opteron, etc chips (anything with ondie memory controller).
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post #16 of 25
11/28/05 at 9:13pm
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Guys, check your email. I sent you the kernel dumps. Let me know what you think. This is on the m6811 and it does the same thing as my 7405. I think it is bad ram. The new memtest still shows all is fine. What gives? It made it to 36 passes with no errors.
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post #17 of 25
11/28/05 at 11:29pm
Got em ... everything on those dumps (looked at all but 2) seem to definately point at your RAM also. No cluse why memtest is checking out OK, unless maybe it's some odd refresh problem memtest is not capable of checking. FWIW, one of the dumps actually stated "MEMORY_CORRUPTION".
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post #18 of 25
11/28/05 at 11:36pm
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Another dumb question. How do you look at those dumps? What program do you use?
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post #19 of 25
11/28/05 at 11:43pm
In my computer experience memtest is useless.
Besides your system runs a complete memory test on bootup and about 100 times a second as your system is running and if it encounters to many faulty cells it will generate those BSODs as it is designed to do.
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post #20 of 25
11/28/05 at 11:45pm
Not a dumb question at all. It is a not well known debugging tool provided by Microsoft. I'm too lazy to look for the link right now, but look for Windbg or debugging tools for Windows on microsoft's site. You will also need symbol files from the site which should be linked on the debugger page. There are OS specific.
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