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Latitude D810 vs Inspiron 9300 for BF2

post #1 of 15
11/24/05 at 4:04am
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Hi All,
I am down to two notebooks- prices are similar (within 100 bones) but I am getting stuck on screen size/weight vs video card.

The D810 comes with a faster processor (PM780 2.26GHz) but a slower video card (radeon x600 w 128mb ram)and a 15.4 inch wide screen.

The I9300 comes with a slightly slower processor (PM770 2.13GHz) but a faster video card (Radeon go6800 w 256mb ram) and a 17 inch wide screen.

My primary excuse for buying a higher end notebook is to play BF2 on the road. Having said that, I don't want to carry any more with me than I need to.

A few questions for the smart peeps:
What is the difference in playability (?) between a 17 inch and a 15.4 inch screen?

Does anyone have any experience with BF2 or other games on the wide screen format? good/bad?

Comparing the two processors and the associated video cards what sort of performance hit will I take to go with the x600 video card vs the go6800? Noticable?

It looks like I can spec out all other things fairly close (HD, RAM, Wireless, etc) so it comes down to is what should I sacrifice in playing speed of the D810 if any, or should I suck it up and go with the I9300 and perhaps hate myself while lugging the big box around.
Thanks,
Ratburt

D810---
Pentium M Processor 780 (2.26GHz)
Video Card ATI RADEON X600 128MB
Windows XP Professional
LCDs 15.4 inch UltraSharp Wide Screen WSXGA+ LCD Panel
Memory 1.0GB Dual Channel 533MHz, DDRII SDRAM, 2 DIMMS -
Hard Drives 60GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 7200RPM

I9300---
Pentium M Processor 770 (2.13GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
Windows XP Pro
Display 17 inch UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
Video Card 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
Hard Drive 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
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post #2 of 15
11/24/05 at 6:04pm
Go with the 9300. I don't have any experience played BF2 on a laptop yet (mine should be delivered next week) but i do have plenty of experience playing on the desktop. You'll need the memory (2GB is recommended). The 6800 is a much better graphics processor than the x600 (the x600 is like a low mid-range card, the 6800 is a low high-end card). But based on that, the processor speed is neglible (you can always overclock your 770 if need be). Plus, you'll like the bigger screen for gaming. And since it has a higher resolution, it should make for a very nice display.
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post #3 of 15
11/25/05 at 3:37am
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Originally Posted by Ratburt
Hi All,
I am down to two notebooks- prices are similar (within 100 bones) but I am getting stuck on screen size/weight vs video card.

The D810 comes with a faster processor (PM780 2.26GHz) but a slower video card (radeon x600 w 128mb ram)and a 15.4 inch wide screen.

The I9300 comes with a slightly slower processor (PM770 2.13GHz) but a faster video card (Radeon go6800 w 256mb ram) and a 17 inch wide screen.

My primary excuse for buying a higher end notebook is to play BF2 on the road. Having said that, I don't want to carry any more with me than I need to.

A few questions for the smart peeps:
What is the difference in playability (?) between a 17 inch and a 15.4 inch screen?

Does anyone have any experience with BF2 or other games on the wide screen format? good/bad?

Comparing the two processors and the associated video cards what sort of performance hit will I take to go with the x600 video card vs the go6800? Noticable?

It looks like I can spec out all other things fairly close (HD, RAM, Wireless, etc) so it comes down to is what should I sacrifice in playing speed of the D810 if any, or should I suck it up and go with the I9300 and perhaps hate myself while lugging the big box around.
Thanks,
Ratburt

D810---
Pentium M Processor 780 (2.26GHz)
Video Card ATI RADEON X600 128MB
Windows XP Professional
LCDs 15.4 inch UltraSharp Wide Screen WSXGA+ LCD Panel
Memory 1.0GB Dual Channel 533MHz, DDRII SDRAM, 2 DIMMS -
Hard Drives 60GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 7200RPM

I9300---
Pentium M Processor 770 (2.13GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
Windows XP Pro
Display 17 inch UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
Video Card 256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 6800
Hard Drive 60GB 7200rpm Hard Drive

I have the 9300 and play battlefield but not b2 as yet. What kind of hit will you take with an x600 card compared to the 6800? A BIG ONE, If gaming is one of your concerns, you shouldnt be looking at the D810. These systems weigh about the same, the d810 has a slightly more rugged case but the 9300 is a very well built machine with mag alloy in the chassis and lcd lid where as the d810 is all mag alloy, the 9300 has bigger screen, far better video card, two more usb ports, firewire, vga and dvi ports and comes in cheaper than a D810 which is a business machine, hence its extra harddrive capacity and serial/parallel legacy ports.
As for size, the 9300 is about an inch wider and half an inch deeper, so we arent talking about a gigantic size difference between the two, I carry my 9300 to work all of the time and you will greatly appreciate the 6800 nvidia card over that x600 card as far as the cpu's go, I would consider a 2.oghz, which is comparable to a 3.2/3.4 ghz pentium 4. Anyhow, you wont discern a difference between the two processors mentioned, you will however discern a big difference between the two video cards.
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post #4 of 15
11/25/05 at 8:42am
If your looking for some serious BF2 action then considering dropping the ram on your 9300 to the lowest amount selectable (then purchasing 2 sticks of 1GB) after that proceed to drop your cpu to 2ghz for cost effectiveness. You will hardly notice the 133 mhz drop.
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post #5 of 15
11/25/05 at 9:31pm
I play BF2 on my 9300 at 1600x1200. D810 will probably run it at 1024x768, 1280x800 if youre lucky
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post #6 of 15
11/26/05 at 1:27am
Well, I just bought my 9300. Hope it plays BF2! It had better play it! lol

I'm so glad my parents let me get this laptop! I'm the luckest 14-year-old on the planet!
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post #7 of 15
11/26/05 at 1:51am
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Originally Posted by TheTechMen
Well, I just bought my 9300. Hope it plays BF2! It had better play it! lol

I'm so glad my parents let me get this laptop! I'm the luckest 14-year-old on the planet!
You'll have no problems with BF2. As for being the luckiest 14 year old, I was luckier 6 years ago when I was 14.
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post #8 of 15
11/26/05 at 2:00am
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Originally Posted by RRF985
You'll have no problems with BF2. As for being the luckiest 14 year old, I was luckier 6 years ago when I was 14.
Wanna bet? Wanna compare credentials? ;-) Just kidding dude.
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post #9 of 15
11/28/05 at 8:06am
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Well I went with the I9300. From the looks of the posts here I should be happy. Any suggestions now for what to do when I first receive the box from dell? (i mean as far as OC, memory, backup, upgrades, etc.?)
Ratburt
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post #10 of 15
11/28/05 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by Ratburt
Well I went with the I9300. From the looks of the posts here I should be happy. Any suggestions now for what to do when I first receive the box from dell? (i mean as far as OC, memory, backup, upgrades, etc.?)
Ratburt

Congrats, you'll really like the 9300, first thing to do is reformat the hard drive, you did order a backup copy of xp didnt you??
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post #11 of 15
11/28/05 at 9:44pm
Even though I do not have a Dell i9300, I would still recommend it given the specifications & the great reviews I read from this forum!!! Ratburt, congrats on your purchase too!!!
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post #12 of 15
11/28/05 at 10:45pm
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Beside getting rid of all the ancilliary crap I am sure dell put on the HD what else will I gain by dumping the HD and reformatting?
Ratburt
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post #13 of 15
12/4/05 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by Ratburt
Beside getting rid of all the ancilliary crap I am sure dell put on the HD what else will I gain by dumping the HD and reformatting?
Ratburt

fewer active processes stayin resident in memory
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post #14 of 15
12/8/05 at 11:54pm
chose the 9300
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post #15 of 15
12/11/05 at 9:39am
X600 = 800X600 medium settings at best, 6800 = FUN!

I definately say get 9300, format, enjoy. Sure you don't get to start playing for an extra hour or so setting everything up, but most all of the dell fecal matter will be gone.
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