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post #181 of 263
Alright I disassembled that part of my 7700 tonight and believe I've found what you were talking about. Here's a photo for anybody else interested:



So all you do is dismount your video card from the heat spreader. The video card is encased within a metal enclosure as pictured above, it can be divided without tearing the orange pull which _is not a seal_. It's just to make it easy to detach your video card. You can remove it just by spreading the enclosure along it's divide with your fingers (if there's a sticker just pull it out of the way with your screw driver, you don't even need to break that either).

I've been monitoring my gpu temperature with GetThermal and it does seem to be running 10-15 degrees C cooler than before. My normal operating temperature was previously 76 and that's with the fans running at max and on a cooling bay, currently it's at 64. Just by putting my hand across the side vent I can tell that this machine is doing much better, I'm not certain it'll be able to handle games now but at least there is an improvement.
post #182 of 263
a small note for all
when you pres Fn+F2 the fans go to full speed
when you pres Fn+F2 again the fans STOPS
that mean even if your VGA is hot the fans will not work at all
that waht's causing he laptop to shutdown
i think this is a bios bug
but till now there is no solution for that
the only that i can get is if you pres the Fn+F2 to stop the fans you must make a system Restart ASAP before the system overheat
post #183 of 263
hi, i been using 'getthermal for a few months now and have complete control over my fans, seperately.

no problems now with overheating........

dave
post #184 of 263
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Originally Posted by druido.elfico View Post
I'm here again... I have tested the FN + F2 command and the Fan start at the maximun speed... The Noise level is incredible... I have plugged in the AC power supply adapter and I'm going to make a test of the system in this condition, speed Fan speack me the temperature is about 41 °C , It's cool...I have test the video card and for do this I'm start to use the ATI radeon control center and test the 3D texture rendering quality... It's All OK... Speed Fan speack me the temperature is 41°C and It's stable! After 15 min. the test give me a good answer. I'm going to take down the Fan with FN + F2 and after 5 second Speed Fan speack e the temperature is 56°C and after 30 second the system is shuting down... I have restart the system with the fan at the maximun speed (FN + F12 again) but if I restart the test of the 3d texture the system is shuting down, speed fan speack me after the rebooting the temperature is 41°C... I don't understand what is the problem.... Please guys Help me!!!
I can tell you exactly what the problem is the Bios sucks!!! Ever since Bios 1.0.2 they have been total crap for the 7700m and the trip values are set entirely to high because all people did was bitch and complain about the fan noise being so loud because the computer was doing what it was supposed to which is keep the system cool. So this that point in time there has not been a suitable bios that cools adequately through trip value programmed into the Bios code and now the option is FULL TILT OR MELTDOWN and no new bios ever to be released because we are nonger important and they have our money so in short of getting a D900T mobo with maybe Falcon- Northwest Bios or just a straight up mobo you're stuck like the rest of us because mine as I said has never cooled adequately since 1.0.02 Bios and it took forever to get the F2 function that the SAGER BOY'S had for 3-4 months before us and at that point it was get thermal and thats it!!!!
ALIENWARE YOU SUCK ANYMORE!!!!
post #185 of 263
Xtia..where do you find the Intel Driver?Search,but only find newer one... Have you a direct link?
post #186 of 263
Thread Starter 
post #187 of 263
Hmm. try another one..
Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family 8.3.0.10136/4/2007 Desktop Chipset
Mobile Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family 8.3.0.10136/4/2007 Mobile Chipset

Both wouldnt install... can you tell me why?
post #188 of 263
Thread Starter 
im not sure...i can't test it either because my 7700 is dead ( X_X )
post #189 of 263
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Originally Posted by xtian View Post
im not sure...i can't test it either because my 7700 is dead ( X_X )
When did it die? (And how long have you been a Hokie?)
post #190 of 263
@all.. does anybody try a different Driver vor the Intel Chipset???
post #191 of 263
Thread Starter 
@BFisch: My lappy died last February...i've been a hokie since 05
@Hoshie: Why do you want to try other drivers? are these giving you problems?
post #192 of 263
Xtian- Sorry to hear about your 7700. I'm from the Roanoke Valley myself, but I'm going to school up in Michigan. Know a good number of Hokies myself.
post #193 of 263
Maybe a newer Driver is better. dont know..
post #194 of 263
New Audio Driver 1.69 available here:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
post #195 of 263
Audio driver 1.69 did not seem to work for me. Doesn't seem to cover the onboard audio (for Vista 32 bit at least).
Had to revert to 1.67. Perhaps this will be the last relevant vista driver for the 7700 on-board sound?
XTian, you can updated the first post in this thread to point to 1.67 for vista if you've the time. It works fine.
post #196 of 263
Check into Eurocom for performance machines.
post #197 of 263
Thanks everyone. New on board, but will contribute.
post #198 of 263
hello, i have an area 51 m7700 laptop specs are p4 3.2 , nvidia 6800 ultra, 1 gig 533. i noticed when i turn on my laptop the fans dont turn on. my computer gets overheated and turns off. Now i installed the bios thing for the Fn+F2 thing so i can turn on my fans manually and it works. but back then when the laptops fans worked normally the laptop took time to overheat and shutoff when i was playing games. but now that i installed the bios thing ,my laptop doesnt seem last that long on. seems to me that it overheats worster than wut it did without the bios update. and gaming seems to suck so bad.
post #199 of 263
Thread Starter 
i would recommend to throughly cleaning the fans inside.
post #200 of 263
ATTENTION TO ALL Area-51 7700 OWNERS WITH OVERHEATING ISSUES

If you:

- Have to use Fn+F2 to keep your computer from shutting down
- Have to use GetThermal to keep the fans working properly
- Are tired of babysitting your computer fans
- Generally hate your fans for being stupid and causing overheating issues.

This is the solution, it took me 4 months to reach.

Short answer: Get your heatsink replaced, the sensor on it (the little wire leading from the heatsink to the motherboard) is defective and is now malfunctioning. Replacing this part will restore your Alienware to its former glory as long as the repeated overheating has not caused permanent damage to your other components.

Long answer: Read On


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Originally Posted by popnfresh452003 View Post
hello, i have an area 51 m7700 laptop specs are p4 3.2 , nvidia 6800 ultra, 1 gig 533. i noticed when i turn on my laptop the fans dont turn on. my computer gets overheated and turns off. Now i installed the bios thing for the Fn+F2 thing so i can turn on my fans manually and it works. but back then when the laptops fans worked normally the laptop took time to overheat and shutoff when i was playing games. but now that i installed the bios thing ,my laptop doesnt seem last that long on. seems to me that it overheats worster than wut it did without the bios update. and gaming seems to suck so bad.
The same thing happened to me. It took me 4 months, 2 motherboard replacements, 1 cpu replacement, 3 video card replacements, and 1 heatsink replacement to finally get the problem fixed.

First try cleaning out the fans, this is the general advice everyone gets.

Your problem is 99% likely to be with your heatsink temperature sensor, this is what the problem was with mine. I repeatedly told Alienware over the phone that all they needed to do was replace the heatsink to fix the issue, but they decided to fix it themselves and had to replace virtually every component a couple of times until they gave in and replaced the heat sink, solving the problem! Hey, it was free to me, no skin off my back.

The tiny little wire that leads from your heatsink into the motherboard is a sensor that tells the fans when to turn on. This is a single fault point in many Area 51 7700 models using the Pentium 4 (just like mine). Over time the wire becomes faulty, incorrectly measuring temperature and not properly activating the fans when they are needed.

So, clean out the fans, get the heatsink replaced, and apply some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste (available at your local radio shack or online) to the video card and processor heat sinks.

Cleaning out the fans and getting the heatsink replaced will solve all your problems, but AS5 does lower the temps a little bit, helping out.

It took awhile, but now my 7700 runs just like it used to (very well, without having to babysit the fans)! FINALLY!
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