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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Here's a test....
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2627&p=1

Looks like it'll be a mighty fine chip to have in a 5720 case.... or preferably even a nicer case by then. I hope these turn up in Jan/Feb.
post #2 of 10
Funny, Everyone else seems to get completely different results...
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7....html?tag=lnav
post #3 of 10
Please repost the FULL URL
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by groston
Please repost the FULL URL
Sorry, my mistake.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7....html?tag=lnav
post #5 of 10
No contest!
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by bigtrouble77
Funny, Everyone else seems to get completely different results...
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7....html?tag=lnav
What do you mean?
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by Device
What do you mean?
I kind of thought the results speak for themselves. Virtually all of the reviews comparing the dual core athlon vs. the dual core pentuims have the athlons coming out ahead at a lower price, with less heat.

I haven't had a chance to read through all of anand tech's review, I just found funny that he came up with different numbers. I have to look into his testing methodology. I have to admit, cnet's testing methodology isn't exactly world reknowned either. The thing that suprised me is that Anand is the first guy to say that the dual core amd's are on parity with the intels.

The major limiting factor on smp based systems is memory bandwidth, and amd has addressed that. Intel hasn't,so all memory intesive benchmarks (which is virtually everything in the real world) are going to be crap on the pentiums.
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
bigtrouble, you've missed the point of the review.

The dual Athlons and the dual Pentiums are not competitors to the dual core Pentium M's. Just because Clevo likes to shoehorn desktop hardware into laptop cases doesn't make them viable alternatives to dedicated laptop hardware such as the Pentium M. The difference is made none too clear by the 5720 vs the clevo clambake 9000 series machines. The next Pentium M, called the Yonah, is the CPU that people are interested in for laptops.

The useful information from Anand's article is that, as expected, the dual core Yonah Pentium M offers a very nice speed bump over the single core Dothan Pentium M... at the same power requirements, same die size and in all likelihood the same price bracket too. Anand has pitted it against the desktop dual cores just for general CPU interest's sake... not as items competing for the same market.

The great thing about the Yonah is that it is pretty much able to be used everywhere were currently the Dothan is being used (and Athlons only dream of going). That means pretty much any notebook of any size. I'm looking forward to a Sager 5720 or Dell XPS equivalent laptop by February with a worthwhile speedbump over the current Dothan for what will be much the same price. The Dothan has seen very little improvement in over a year now and this is the next big step for it.

AMD intend to have a competitor out by the end of the year, but that is only as exciting as the Turion has been all along... just a latecomer.

Whether or not a dual Athlon fx whatever can beat it on the desktop is irrelevant for notebooks. Though it's extraordinary just how close the performance is at all really.
post #9 of 10
By:Robax
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bigtrouble, you've missed the point of the review.

The dual Athlons and the dual Pentiums are not competitors to the dual core Pentium M's. Just because Clevo likes to shoehorn desktop hardware into laptop cases doesn't make them viable alternatives to dedicated laptop hardware such as the Pentium M. The difference is made none too clear by the 5720 vs the clevo clambake 9000 series machines. The next Pentium M, called the Yonah, is the CPU that people are interested in for laptops.

The useful information from Anand's article is that, as expected, the dual core Yonah Pentium M offers a very nice speed bump over the single core Dothan Pentium M... at the same power requirements, same die size and in all likelihood the same price bracket too. Anand has pitted it against the desktop dual cores just for general CPU interest's sake... not as items competing for the same market.

The great thing about the Yonah is that it is pretty much able to be used everywhere were currently the Dothan is being used (and Athlons only dream of going). That means pretty much any notebook of any size. I'm looking forward to a Sager 5720 or Dell XPS equivalent laptop by February with a worthwhile speedbump over the current Dothan for what will be much the same price. The Dothan has seen very little improvement in over a year now and this is the next big step for it.

AMD intend to have a competitor out by the end of the year, but that is only as exciting as the Turion has been all along... just a latecomer.

Whether or not a dual Athlon fx whatever can beat it on the desktop is irrelevant for notebooks. Though it's extraordinary just how close the performance is at all really.
Actually it isn't irrelevent, the test are trying to compare the Pentium M to the desktop AMD dual core. Which in my opinion, makes the test look a little suspicious. The top Dothan Pentium M would not over take a high end AMD 64, (I am talking about both single core), which makes me question how can the Yonah over take the or even come close to overtaking a desktop AMD 64 dual core cpu. Might be true. That is how I see it right now.
post #10 of 10
youve all missed it!

theyre comparing the athlon x2 to the pentium D, not yonah. cnet sucks.
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