Email I got RE: 3.06 w/ HT on 5660

Hello Mr. Blanchard,

Thank you for inquiring about our computer systems.

The Intel Pentium 4 Processor with HT technology is available on the Aviator. However, the current BIOS on the Aviator does not yet support this feature. A BIOS update will soon be available to support HT. The BIOS update file will be available on our support download site as soon as it is ready.

Please feel free to contact us regarding any additional questions you may have.

Regards,

HYPERSONIC PC SYSTEMS SALES
U.S. Toll Free: 1.800.520.0498
Internet: http://www.hypersonic-pc.com
Email: sales@hypersonic-pc.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Blanchard [mailto:atbear@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:57 PM
To: sales@hypersonic-pc.com
Subject: Product Request


When do you expect the P4 3.06 with HT to be available on your Aviator notebook? I see you have it as an option when customizing, but I heard that it wasn't going to be available. I really want the 3.06 WITH Hyper-Threading in the Sonic Aviator! When is the earliest you expect the P4 3.06 with HT to be available for purchase/ship? Thanks!!
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So according to this from Hypersonic, Clevo does support the 3.06 with HT on the 5660 model..... Does this mean Sager could possibly add it soon to the NP5660 line. I sure hope so, because I want HT on a 5660! What do y'all think?

Here is an email I got from Clevo themselves:


Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your support on our product line, I will check with Sager and release our 5660 with 3.06 and w/ H/T asap. Thank you again.

Best Regards

Allen Hsieh
Clevo Co.
No. 129 HSING-TE ROAD, SUN CHUNG SITY 241,
TAIPEI HSIEN, TAIWAN, R.O.C.
TEL: +886-2-7716 9958(DIRECT)
TEL: +886-2-2278 9696 ext 2375
FAX: +886-2-22789595, 22784848, 85121362
E-mail: allenth@clevo.com.tw
Web: www.clevo.com.tw

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Blanchard [mailto:atbear@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:56 PM
To: Á¿A (Allen Hsieh)
Subject: Product Request/Question


Hello,
I am very interested in your 5600D model (Sager NP5660, Alienware Area51m, Hypersonic Aviator)! I have been looking into buying a Sager NP5660 for a while now. I have been doing research, and found it to be a very fast computer... What is holding me back from buying it is that I really want to have the Pentium 4 3.06GHz with Hyper-Threading in my 5660. I see that you now have it in your 888E series computer, but I really like the 5660 better due to weight, size, and looks. Plus the 888E costs more and has too many extraneous features for my taste.

When do you expect the 5600D will be available with the P4 3.06GHz WITH Hyper-Threading? I would be one of the first to buy a Sager NP5660 once it was available with the 3.06 w/ HT. Is it not out now due to a heat issue/engeneering issue, or a BIOS issue? I see that Alienware and Hypersonic are claiming that have it in there computers, but I have heard that they are just "hoping" for it to be available soon. I'm looking for your best guess as to how soon the P4 3.06 with HT will be available on a 5660? You will have me as a customer once it is released. Please do anything you can to expedite it's release, there is a market for it out there! Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
Drew Blanchard

Here are some more emails I got back from various "Clevo" companies:

Thank you for your email. The only laptop that supports hyper threading is the Ultima 16.1.
Should you have any further enquiries please do not hesitate to contact me directly.

Regards
David Danciger
Mesh Sales
davidd@meshcomputers.com
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Drew,

I can't really guess at this one because what I'm being told by the engineers is it's a heat and bios issue and if it happens will be as late as June. They've said stuff like that before on other items and we got them in weeks and some never came, so I really don't know if they will work it out. You can put the 3.06GHZ processor in there like Alienware does, but the HT won't be enabled just as Alienware's isn't. I'm not giving you the run around or political answer, I really can't tell if it's going to happen and when.

Thanks,
Adam Alter
PC Torque Ltd.
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Hi Drew

We will have these machines in stock in about 3 weeks, contact me on the number below when you wish to order and I will have one with you in 48 hours

Regards
Simon Nathaniel
Account Manager
AJP Computers PLC
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Hi Drew,

Thanks for your email.
Although the 3.06 GHz processor will run without problems, the motherboard isn't hyper threading ready - yet! Hopefully soon ...
We actually assemble the laptops in house.

Regards,
Phil Elliott
Sales, Red Submarine
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So, as you see some companies are like "just wait a few more weeks, cause they're coming out and we can have one out to you for sure then!" And then other companies take the "high" road and say they don't know. I really do hope it comes on very soon, but then I again, I hope it comes out on the 5660 at all!

Drew

How long do you keep your computers? Cause I keep mine for 3-4 years without upgrading. This computer has to last me a while, so I want the best there is now.

denkc, what do you mean by your post?

I run a lot of programs at the same time like StuartV... I like the idea of sending two threads at once to the CPU instead of only one at a time! Not very efficient use of the processor's power! I plan on keeping my computer for a long time so that give plenty of time to have HT compatible programs come out. Plus, I'm probably not buying til April/June so that give even more time... There are many positives to having two logical CPUs: MULTI-TASKING!!!!

Do you want me to wait 4 years to get it, cause that's how long the wait would be..... also.. what about all the dual G4 and dual Athlons out there..... are those a waste too?

Here's the latest email I got back from Eurocom:

Drew,

Thank you for your interest in our products. We are planning to update in about 4-6 weeks our current model of 5600P/5600D Monte Carlo to 5600DS model supporting Hyper-Treading Pentium 4 processor (3.06 GHz +) and 128 MB DDR Video based on ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 or 9000 FireGL.

The upgrade require change of mechanical design (improved ventilation) to support high performance, extremely powerfull H/T based processors.

Then around June/July we are updating Monte Carlo again, implementing 8x AGP
technology based on Intel Springdale chipset, DDR400, and VIDIA 31 8x fully Open GL compliant graphics engine. This is part of our commitment to make things better and faster. We make future to happen.

All the best.
Mark Bialic | President | Eurocom Corporation

Hyper-Threading and Dual processors are viewed the same by the computer, so the work the same in that effect. And the 3.06 P4 is fast enough to handle it. The only real difference would be fighting for shared resourses, but that should hinder too much... what do you think?