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post #1 of 49
Thread Starter 
Part of me thinks that another "complaint" thread is the last thing this forum needs. But then again, that's what it's here for.

This isn't meant to be a "you-should-never-do-business-with-Hypersonic" thread, I have no doubt that they make great products. And I'm guessing that the majority of people who do business with them are satisfied customers.

My issues with Hypersonic are relatively minor compared to others I've read, and fortunately they're over.

This is simply meant to be an account of my dealings with Hypersonic. Make of it what you will...

The following is taken from a message I sent to Hypersonic.
post #2 of 49
Thread Starter 
I realize in the grand scheme of things I'm just one small customer. However, over the past 9 years I've purchased a total of 12 PCs (mostly from Dell and Alienware) for work, school, and personal use, and will be purchasing 6 notebooks next semester in conjunction with a research grant I received. I wouldn't think a company like Hypersonic would want to lose potential customers like myself over the easily avoidable issues that drove me away.

My order number is/was #####.

1) I placed my order on October 27, and paid via wire transfer. I was given an original expected ship date of November 14. At the time I placed the order, I was told the only parts not in stock were the hard drives.

2) The expected ship date was pushed back until November 21. I called to ask why, and was told Hypersonic was waiting on the video card.

3) The expected ship date was pushed back until November 28. I called to ask why and was told Hypersonic was waiting on the motherboard.

4) The expected ship date was pushed back until December 2. I called to ask why, and was told by XXXXX that I requested a later ship date because I would be out-of-town (which I never did).

5) The expected ship date was moved up to November 25. I called to ask if this was because all the parts were finally in, and was told Hypersonic does not give out information on the availability of parts. Note that Hypersonic did give information (albeit inconsistent information) as described in 1) – 3) above.

At this point, I lost all confidence in Hypersonic. I no longer believed anything they told me, or would continue to tell me. Despite the fact that XXXXX was the only customer/account service representative I could reach, she never seemed to want to give me a straight answer. She would either give vague answers, or transfer me to sales (for parts availability/order status questions) or to billing (for refund questions – see below). So I decided to cancel my order.

I wish to clarify my reason for canceling my order: It was not because I had to wait. I understand building and testing a high-end, custom system takes time. I would have gladly (if impatiently) waited for the system if they had been upfront with me about the availability of parts and/or delivery time. However, it got to the point were I no longer believed anything Hypersonic told me. In fact, I feel that I was intentionally misled from the beginning. This was not an order – it should have been stated that it was a “pre-order” with a ship date to be determined when parts were available. Had I known from the beginning that Hypersonic did not truly know when to expect all parts to be available, I would have either ordered a different system, or been prepared to wait for an unknown length of time.

6) I canceled my order on November 8. Prior to canceling, I asked XXXXX how long it would take to issue a refund check (since I paid by wire transfer), and she informed me it should only take 2-3 days.

7) I called on November 14 to check on the status of my refund. XXXXX informed me it went out (past-tense) earlier that day.

8) I called on November 21 to check on the status of my refund. XXXXX informed me it went out Friday, November 18. I pointed out to her that she had previously told me it went out on the 14th. Her response was something along the lines of “I don’t know what happened. Let me transfer you to billing.” Billing confirmed it went out on the 18th, and while they could not provide me with ay tracking information, they did give me a check number and amount.

9) When I did finally receive my refund, the envelope was post-marked November 22. I guess that explains why they could not provide me with any tracking information on the 18th.

I wish to clarify my reason for being upset about the refund: It is not because it took 2-weeks to issue a check. I do have some understanding of accounting systems, needing to get approval for expenditures, etc. But as with the order/building process, I feel that I was intentionally misled (if not outright lied to) about the status of my refund. And for the privilege of being misled (both during the sales/building phase and while waiting for a refund), I paid a hefty cancellation fee.

10) When I told XXXXX I did not feel a cancellation my was right (citing the above reasons), she transferred me to billing. Billing in turn told me I would have to talk to XXXXX. At this point, knowing that Hypersonic likes to give inconsistent information and “pass the buck” to other departments, I decided not to waste time by pressing the issue (perhaps they hope this will be the result of their behavior??).

Had Hypersonic been upfront and more professional in their dealings with me, I wound still be a customer, and a likely future customer.
post #3 of 49
sorry to hear about it. what type of laptop was it? i know the 7200rpm drive you got is hard to get as is the 7800gtx, but the mobo? i would have figured that they would hgave had it in stock.
post #4 of 49
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chode messiah
sorry to hear about it. what type of laptop was it? i know the 7200rpm drive you got is hard to get as is the 7800gtx, but the mobo? i would have figured that they would hgave had it in stock.
The system specs were:

Aviator FX7: State of the Art 17" Desktop Replacement Notebook
Aviator FX7 in Silver with Graphite Accents
AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-57 Processor w/ HyperTransport™ Tech
VIA K8T890 + VT8237A Chipset Mobile Motherboard for FX7
1024MB Corsair PC3200 DDR400 SODIMM
1024MB Corsair PC3200 DDR400 SODIMM
NEW! Nvidia GeForce Go 7800 GTX PCI-Express 256MB
Built-in ATA Hardware RAID Controller
80GB 7200rpm Serial-ATA Hard Drive with NCQ (Limited - May Delay Order)
80GB 7200rpm Serial-ATA Hard Drive with NCQ (Limited - May Delay Order)
8X DVD ± R/W Drive Dual Layer w/ DVD Recording Software & LightScribe
10 in 1 Flash Media Card Reader Bay
17" WUXGA 1920x1200 VividView™ Display w/ Super Clear Glossy Surface
Built-in 4-Speaker 3D Sound System w/ 8.1 Channel S/PDIF Output
Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Internal 802.11b+g 54Mbps Wireless Mini PCI Network Adapter & Bluetooth
Integrated V.92 56K Fax/Data Modem
MS Windows XP Home Edition CD & Manual SP2 Pre-Installed & Configured
3 Year Platinum Warranty with 24/7 Toll-Free Tech Support

Genuine Leather Hypersonic System PadFolio with Performance Benchmarks
Personalized System Recovery DVD
Minimum 72-Hour Burn-in & testing with 128-Point Quality Control Process
Configured and tested with latest qualified drivers and operating system updates
Arctic Silver 5 High Tech Polysynthetic Heat Dissipation Agent
User Upgradeable Pentium® 4 Processor
Integrated Color CCD Video Camera

Price as Configured: $4,786.00
post #5 of 49
To clarify, the delay was not Hyper's fault. It was the manufacturer's (Clevo). This system (based on the D900K) is expected to ship in about 2 weeks. This, however, does not excuse this poor example of customer service.
post #6 of 49
Thread Starter 
I hope it's okay to quote a PM from someone else to me - if it's not appropriate, please let me know.

Quote:
Original PM from Pat@Hypersonic:
Hoss:

I reviewed your case with our billing department, pulled some strings, killed a few people, and have had a check made out for the $###.##. I am having it mailed today. I am sorry about the cancellation fee, but I have cancelled the cancellation fee
If there is anything else I can do for you, please let me know. Again, my apologies for all the problems you have encountered.

Patrick
I honestly wasn't expecting this. I posted it before, but I'll post it again: "IMO Pat is the best thing Hypersonic has going for them." If I ever do buy from Hypersonic in the future, it will only be because of his efforts (which had a damn quick turn-around time). Thanks Pat!!
post #7 of 49
Just installed the new 7800gtx and the fan is not running. the card is, but the fan isn't. this is bogus that i am gonna have to wait for hypersonic to repair my laptop. had to wait for the 7800gtx to arrive and the fan isn't working. This sucks. Now i have more waiting. oh well, i still have cs on the old hp. whatever im just really annoyed.
post #8 of 49
Damn Hoss. that sucks. I thought you would definately had made it to delivery day. that was an awesome system. I am sure that you had a Lot of people waiting for that systems review.
post #9 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by chode messiah
Just installed the new 7800gtx and the fan is not running. the card is, but the fan isn't. this is bogus that i am gonna have to wait for hypersonic to repair my laptop. had to wait for the 7800gtx to arrive and the fan isn't working. This sucks. Now i have more waiting. oh well, i still have cs on the old hp. whatever im just really annoyed.
Chode:

If the fan still isn't working on the video card, then there is obviously more to the problem than we had originally thought. Our technical support will do what we can to repair the issue.

Patrick
post #10 of 49
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aurora
Damn Hoss. that sucks. I thought you would definately had made it to delivery day. that was an awesome system. I am sure that you had a Lot of people waiting for that systems review.
I feel like such a failure.
post #11 of 49
o. I didntmean to make ya feel any worse. lol impatience is normal. I mean, dam you had a screamin system. anybody would want something like that yesterday. its cool that Pat took care of everything for you. I know a bunch of nice people that really do create the right image of a company so I know what you mean about having a person that would always bring you back.
post #12 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by aurora
o. I didntmean to make ya feel any worse. lol impatience is normal. I mean, dam you had a screamin system. anybody would want something like that yesterday. its cool that Pat took care of everything for you. I know a bunch of nice people that really do create the right image of a company so I know what you mean about having a person that would always bring you back.
post #13 of 49
wow.... getting a FX7 with the fx-60 and 7800gtx gpu in a week or 2...hope i dont have thses problems
post #14 of 49

More Dealings with Hypersonic

My AX6 is a total dog. I paid major dollars and had problems since day one (coming up on two years now.) I am generally a very understanding consumer and give folks many opportunities to provide good customer service. They used 'em all up.

The thing has been blue-screening on a regular basis since about a month after I got it. Three of the four USB ports weren't functioning when I received it. I sent it in to Hypersonic twice, waited almost a month for them to get it back to me the first time. Replaced RAM and CPU, the works. They claim to have replaced the motherboard and couldn't find the problem. I've kept up to date with all the drivers. Hell, I would just like a parts list so I can try different drivers.

These days, it foregoes the bluescreen and just shuts down once every three hours. Black. Dark. Locked up, goodbye. Calling them now seems to be a waste of time.

Now, I totally understand that sometimes you just get a bad piece of hardware--so I asked for a replacement. Hell, I even offered to pay more to get a better unit and was told (while still in the warranty period) that they'd give me $400 off of a new unit as a "trade-in". I paid over $3000. That's just not standing behind your product.

Obviously, I am looking into a new laptop now. And even MORE obviously, I am NOT looking to Hypersonic.

Oh, and as an added plus--when I emailed earlier in the month for the drivers for WinXP x64 (I was hoping that a different set of drivers might help), I was told the machine I bought to support the new 64-bit operating systems will NOT run Windows XP x64.

When I bought it, I was assured it WOULD run XP x64. Surprise! My experience has shown me one thing -- Stay away from Hypersonic.

I'll throw in some terms to make finding this reply easier for those looking for recommendations to buy: (Hypersonic-pc, hypersonic, quality, problems, poor, reliability, gaming)
post #15 of 49
While my system did take a while to get and the communication process needs improvement, Hyper has done well by me. Their after-sales customer support has been great. I did have to reinstall the OS as there were major problems getting Visual Studio 2005 to install, but this may have nothing to do with Hyper as I had installed tons of shit beforehand.

The one issue I had with the videocard they resolved quickly and without any flak. At this point I would recommend them again. AW has me concerned with how they are dealing with a specific non-USA individual. They have been great with me, so I am confused (well, I am an ALX/business customer so I perhaps I get a different class of service).
post #16 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
While my system did take a while to get and the communication process needs improvement, Hyper has done well by me. Their after-sales customer support has been great. I did have to reinstall the OS as there were major problems getting Visual Studio 2005 to install, but this may have nothing to do with Hyper as I had installed tons of shit beforehand.

The one issue I had with the videocard they resolved quickly and without any flak. At this point I would recommend them again. AW has me concerned with how they are dealing with a specific non-USA individual. They have been great with me, so I am confused (well, I am an ALX/business customer so I perhaps I get a different class of service).
Now I'm sure there will be other customers who have had a good experience like Darth, but I get the feeling Darth got special treatment. Why would Darth get special treatment? Because he has over 8,000 posts and many people recognize him on this forum. He posts in multiple forums and his presence is felt. When his ship dates were continually being delayed he was very proactive about informing everyone on multple boards about the problems.

Darth, I'm sure you remember we both ordered nearly identical systems. I think I may have even placed my order before yours (10/6/05). Well guess what, you got your FX7 before mine AND yours had the custom star wars graphics on top of the chameleon paint job. I still have not received my FX7! So what gives? Hypersonic has told me that smooth creations ran out of the paint needed for my chameleon paint job. I don't know what to belive any more...
post #17 of 49
Check ur PM Hexum.
post #18 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by hexum23
Now I'm sure there will be other customers who have had a good experience like Darth, but I get the feeling Darth got special treatment. Why would Darth get special treatment? Because he has over 8,000 posts and many people recognize him on this forum. He posts in multiple forums and his presence is felt. When his ship dates were continually being delayed he was very proactive about informing everyone on multple boards about the problems.

Darth, I'm sure you remember we both ordered nearly identical systems. I think I may have even placed my order before yours (10/6/05). Well guess what, you got your FX7 before mine AND yours had the custom star wars graphics on top of the chameleon paint job. I still have not received my FX7! So what gives? Hypersonic has told me that smooth creations ran out of the paint needed for my chameleon paint job. I don't know what to belive any more...
As far as I am concerned, I do not give preferential treatment to anyone on these boards. I do what I can to help anyone who asks me for it. I am not aware of the specific circumstances regarding particular orders. I just do what I can to speed things along, if it is possible to do so. Just because someone posts on these forums, does not mean that they can complain, and then all of a sudden jump ahead in the queue. That wouldn't be fair.
post #19 of 49
im usually pretty good at giving people a go as well . but with me it was 3 strikes and your out im certainly not shipping i back to them. hell all my usb ports arnt working , my camera and other pci based hard ware are haveing resource issues or the operateing system simply wont recognise that there evan there . and i still get the occasional blue screen of death ,ive tryed reinstalling the operateing sytem twice now and it still keeps doing it , id use the resque cd that hypersonic gave me but they didnt set the raid up and the resque cd only recognises one drive .so there ya have it thats my gripe not that im pretty sure anyone cares , hell i dont evan care any more... so everyone whos got a fine working machine best of luck to you and congrats those of you who have had continual problems like my self , believe me i know exactly where your coming from.
post #20 of 49
My ship date was Dec 2nd and I got my rig Dec 31st. That is not a halmark of preferential treatment. I am been informed I was not the first to get the FX 7 either. My order date was 10/20.

One question: Did you specify the thermal-changing paint or the color-shifting based on perspective? I had ordered the thermal type but had them change it partway through. The second type is not even an option on the web page. Perhaps this has something to do with it. Out paint choices might not even be the same.
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