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8790 HD dies, need replacement!

post #1 of 26
12/5/05 at 11:24am
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The 80GB Toshiba that came weith my 8790 ground to a halt and died on me. What can I buy to replace it? Any 2.5" IDE drive? I think I read that it needs to be 80GB or smaller. Is this right?

Also, does Toshiba warranty this drive even though Sager's warranty has run out on me?
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post #2 of 26
12/5/05 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by khu
The 80GB Toshiba that came weith my 8790 ground to a halt and died on me. What can I buy to replace it? Any 2.5" IDE drive? I think I read that it needs to be 80GB or smaller. Is this right?

Also, does Toshiba warranty this drive even though Sager's warranty has run out on me?
Any PATA drive should work. I don't think that the size will present a problem. Maybe if greater than 137GB; however, I am assuming that it willnot because I had a 320GB external hooked to my 8790.

Down load the Toshiba utilities and try the RMA process. They may provide the extended converage and then again they may not. I'm not sure what the Toshiba's warranty is on that HDD.
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post #3 of 26
12/6/05 at 8:08am
I can verify that 100gig drives are ok for the 8790. I've got a Seagate 100gb in my 8790 as a secondary drive. Works fine.

I would imagine the Toshiba'd be covered under manufacturer's warranty still. Might want to contact Sager (or your reseller) and see if they can't get you squared away. Otherwise, contact Toshiba directly. Any way you go, I think you can get it replaced this early in the game.

I could be wrong, though, but don't think so.
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post #4 of 26
12/7/05 at 1:03pm
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Thanks for the responses. Have ordered a Samsung M40 80GB and will look into the Toshiba RMA.
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post #5 of 26
12/10/05 at 12:53am
My Toshiba died on me too, and likewise, replaced it with the 80GB Samsung. No problems.

I also RMA'd my old Toshiba and got a brand new one back.
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post #6 of 26
12/11/05 at 2:52pm
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I got my new Samsung, but the 8790's not recognizing it. I simply replaced the Toshiba with the Samsung (after a little problem with the screws on the mounting bracket). Just says on POST that the Controller BIOS is not loaded because no drives are attached. The new samsung M40 is set on Master just like the Toshiba.

Is this my motherboard dying at the same time as my Toshiba drive? If so, I'm pretty well screwed...

Either that or the M40 arrived DOA, which doesn't seem so likely. Have ordered a 44-40 IDE adapter to test out the M40 on my external enclosure, but that won't arrive for more than a week.
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post #7 of 26
12/11/05 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by khu
I got my new Samsung, but the 8790's not recognizing it. I simply replaced the Toshiba with the Samsung (after a little problem with the screws on the mounting bracket). Just says on POST that the Controller BIOS is not loaded because no drives are attached. The new samsung M40 is set on Master just like the Toshiba.

Is this my motherboard dying at the same time as my Toshiba drive? If so, I'm pretty well screwed...

Either that or the M40 arrived DOA, which doesn't seem so likely. Have ordered a 44-40 IDE adapter to test out the M40 on my external enclosure, but that won't arrive for more than a week.
You know, i think I had that problem too. Did you try both HDD bays? I had to put my Samsung in the other bay, but I think that's only because It was in cable select.
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post #8 of 26
12/11/05 at 7:13pm
Shouldn't need jumpers on either of the drives. My 60gb Hitachi didn't come jumpered. And the 100gb Seagate I've got in the secondary bay doesn't have a jumper. I was told directly by Sager before I installed mine that jumpers were not necessary.

If you've got them jumpered, you might want to remove the jumpers and then see if it's recognized in the BIOS. If so, then you just need to go into the Drive Management in Windows and tell XP to use the drive.
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post #9 of 26
12/11/05 at 9:57pm
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I don't have it jumpered. Both the old toshiba and the new Samsung are unjumpered, indicating Master status. Doesn't seem to be seen in BIOS, which is why the RAID controller BIOS says it's not loading. Do I have to do something in BIOS to get it to be recognized?

I would try the drive in the other bay but there's no adapter or whatever that is, the little part that connects the mobo's IDE pins to the HD's. Or can I just pull the adapter from the other bay?
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post #10 of 26
12/11/05 at 10:18pm
Doesn't windows have to FSDISK the drive before you can use it? Also, is RIAD being employed even though there is only one drive? If this is the case, then you need the RAID drivers and need to install them whem prompted during the Windows installation process. You will need an external floppy drive for these drivers.
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post #11 of 26
12/12/05 at 5:38am
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Originally Posted by khu
I don't have it jumpered. Both the old toshiba and the new Samsung are unjumpered, indicating Master status. Doesn't seem to be seen in BIOS, which is why the RAID controller BIOS says it's not loading. Do I have to do something in BIOS to get it to be recognized?

I would try the drive in the other bay but there's no adapter or whatever that is, the little part that connects the mobo's IDE pins to the HD's. Or can I just pull the adapter from the other bay?
Uh, there should be. The other IDE connector thing should be on the opposite side of the one in the other HDD bay.
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post #12 of 26
12/12/05 at 9:54am


The cables are on opposing ends of each other (if I remember correctly- I'm not going to open my machine just to answer right now I'm lazy ).
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post #13 of 26
12/12/05 at 5:59pm
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The drive is not recognized during POST, that's the problem I'm trying to fix.

In my 8790 there are obviously two drive bays, but the secondary has no 'connector' (don't know the real name of it) to connect the second mobo IDE with the actual drive. The second mobo IDE is just a set of male pins.

The 'connector' I'm talking about here is shown top left in the attached pic, on IDE1.

So
1) What could I possibly be doing wrong? On bootup BIOS is not seeing any HD.

2) can I just pull this connector thing off of IDE1 and try to use it with the drive on IDE2?

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post #14 of 26
12/12/05 at 7:10pm
When you ordered, did you order the equipment for the 2nd bay? I know I did, so I had it there. Perhaps that's the problem- you'll probably have to contact Sager for the parts. I can't think of any way that you can connect a 2nd drive w/o that connector.
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post #15 of 26
12/12/05 at 7:22pm
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I never ordered it...didn't even know there was an option. Anyway, I don't need 2 drives connected, I just wanted to knwo if I can pull that connector to see if the laptop will recognize this new Samsung in drive bay 2 since it's not recognizing its existence in bay 1.
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post #16 of 26
12/12/05 at 7:59pm
Check in your plastic sack. The 8790's (if they are Sagers) should have included both connections. Which SAMSUNG drive did you order/receive?

And maybe..... the problem is not with the HDD; but rather some other component.
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post #17 of 26
12/13/05 at 9:41am
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I'm afraid my plastic sack is back at home in the US, and I'm out here in Finland right now. Since I don't need two connectors, just one, I guess I'll try to pull the orange connector from IDE1, I just have no idea if it's supposed to be pulled off or not.


The Samsung was supposed to be a M40 PATA but actually is a M60 PATA(identical except for 2MB vs 8MB buffer)
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post #18 of 26
12/13/05 at 9:57am
I've seen Europe-based Clevo resellers mentioned here in the forums before~ you might want to search around and see if you can find any information here or on Google. You might be able to order the IDE connector and HD bracket from over there. Helsinki's big enough, I'd imagine there might even be a reseller there.

Quick Google search brought me this link: http://www.expansys.fi/product.asp?code=115659

Since they have Clevo items apparently, you might want to give them a holler and see if they can't get the pieces that you need. Not much sense in having a 2nd drive that you can't use (I did that myself for way too long)
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post #19 of 26
12/13/05 at 10:35am
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Well, I don't have two drives. My first one died, hence the second I bought. I'm just trying to get this second to work now, and am lost on that right now. Thanks for your link. So I can use Clevo parts since the 8790 is a Clevo chassis, eh? Good to know.

(It's OK, I know with all these threads the whole context gets forgotten sometimes )
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post #20 of 26
12/13/05 at 9:50pm
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Update: So I pulled the connector from IDE1, stuck it into IDE2, plugged in my Samsung, and it works!

So...my IDE controller is fried???? That's NOT good, as I'm out of warranty, so replacing a mobo will be big bucks. 18 months after I bought it, my 8790 is halfway crippled.
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