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64 Bit Laptop and Helping me find a good Lightweight one

post #1 of 10
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Hey Guys, selling my Hi Tech Inspiron 9300 to replace it with something smaller and lighter, I always promise myself I will get a lighter laptop and end up drooling over the features of the Desktop Replacements and getting those, but Now I want a Lightweight, Bright SCreen, Thin Laptop, the thing is My friend was telling me to get a 64 Bit because next year with the NEW OS it will be a noticable difference, but it seems Intel doesnt have a 64 Bit Processor, I wonder why, and Only AMD Does, and I dont like HP, Gateway, Compaq, and the companies that support AMD, so What is the only way to get a decent company and get a good processor, and why are they INtel 32 Bit Chips on the market when 64 Bit is the new age, a big company like Dell only has 32 Bits what the!? Anyways Help me out, I Like the S Series on the Sony but no 64 Bit.
post #2 of 10
I say you got 2 choises:

Acer Ferrari
MSI 1029

Both Are very very very good laptops.
post #3 of 10
The reason Intel is still 32-bit is because 64-bit is not necessary right now, and won't be necessary for the next operating system either. If you absolutely must have 64-bit, Acer has several models with Turion processors.
post #4 of 10
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I like the Acer Ferrari, but how is the warranty, how is the company, where can I buy it, and I want something more Lightweight, and whats better Turion or Athlon, and I dont get that 3000+ stuff??
post #5 of 10
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Also who makes MSI?
post #6 of 10
MSI makes MSI

you can buy Acer on newegg among all places.

Athlon and Turion are about the same, although Athlon is a tad faster at the same clock rate. Keep in mind Athlon is 82w and 62w while turion is in the 30w range thus battery life is much better on the turions.

The 3000+ naming is a way that AMD named the Turion CPUs so people can comare them to P4 although they don't run at the same clock rate. For example the AMD Athlon 64 3200+ is only 2.0Ghz but it performs about on par with a 3.2Ghz P4. Thats all the names are about.

Warranty on Acers is quite good
post #7 of 10
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What you guys about Fujitsu's?

Do all these companies have U.S. Warranties and have companies based in the country, What is the fastest and lightest Laptop with 13+ Inch Screen + under 5 LBS with a Good Processor?
post #8 of 10
Fugitsu are nice....they screens kick total ass! (yes, as good, if not better than sony screens)
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by abf
Keep in mind Athlon is 82w and 62w while turion is in the 30w range thus battery life is much better on the turions.
Not as much as you might think. I'm typing this on my Athlon 64 3400+ 62w machine. The quoted wattage number is the maximum amount of power the processor can consume, at full frequency and load. (Actually, it's that amount padded by 25%, per AMD policy. That's a good thing, too, because my power brick is only rated for 60W!)

That value is important because any chassis design has to be prepared to dissipate that much heat, because the processor is theoretically capable of producing that much. However, the processor doesn't use anywhere near that amount of power on battery. My machine is running on battery right now, and ACPI reports that it's using just under 20 watts -- for the entire system, 15.4" screen, disk, memory, wireless, and dedicated GPU included.

What's important for battery life is the amount of power used at low frequency, not at full load (unless you're concerned with battery life while gaming, but few people are).

The Athlon 64 uses lots of power (62W) at full load, but scales WAY back at low frequency. (The reason the Pentium 4 is fatally flawed as a laptop chip isn't just the fact that it uses so much power at full frequency, it's that it can't scale its power use back like the Athlon 64 can.) The Turions, meanwhile, use much less power at full load (35w or 25w), but only scale back to about the same level as the Athlon 64.

As a comparison, with a good battery (mine is shot, long story which is my fault) my machine would get slightly over 3 hours of battery life. (65 watt-hour battery divided by 20-21 watts system power usage gives slightly over 3 hours). It is a 15.4" widescreen with dedicated graphics (Radeon 9600).

The new Turion machines, the Acer Ferrari and the MSI 1029, have the same size battery, dedicated graphics that use about the same amount of power, and the same size screen. Their battery life has been quoted as 3 to 3.5 hours, so they're apparently using about as much juice as my Athlon 64 machine.

However, they're significantly thinner, since their cooling system doesn't have to be able to dissipate 62w of heat from an Athlon 64 at full frequency and voltage -- the Turions use much less when running at full speed.

While the Turions may use slightly less power running on battery than the Athlon 64, it doesn't make that big of a difference for system battery life.
post #10 of 10
my athlon64 is 82w and ugh...with an 8-cell (at least i think its an 8 cell) i am dishing out no more than 2 hours with basic use (wireless internet + office)
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