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post #21 of 48
12/10/05 at 5:07pm
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i uninstalled them and they just reinstalled themselves ....lol....help
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post #22 of 48
12/10/05 at 6:08pm
HERE is a good user's review of the 5720. Compare your thoughts to his. FEAR is a terrible game to test gaming performance. 90% of the posts I have read express difficulty configuring this game. Most seem to have to tone it down to low resolutions and configs. Personally, I didn't like the game performance OR the gameplay in FEAR.
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post #23 of 48
12/11/05 at 6:16pm
hmmm, I recommend MY 5720 review (being a liuttle biased ) and i noticed that moving to the new drivers has a specific fix for FEAR and another poster here noticed that there is a pecifix fix for SAGER in the newer drivers. I was only able to run FEAR at medium till the updates now I run it at glorious MAXIMUM. Well, almost max, not on the AF and AA. Tehy are on just not maxed.
Also I have had the Turtle Beach USB sound card adaptro recommended. Its only $30 and while it prolly cant fight against the AUdigy my understanding is it works great for gaming and gets rid of that satanic hiss.

Hope this helps.....
.....oh alright dammit thats a pretty good review, if a bit longwinded...whoops just noticed he used 81.94 i am using 81.97 not sure if that will help or hurt FEAR
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post #24 of 48
12/11/05 at 6:36pm
As far as the touchpad, I've found that the option to "disable tapping while typing" really helpful when i'm typing. this way, i dont have to enable/disable the touchpad constantly when i'm switching to using a mouse or not and typing is not a pain.

as far as your screen being worse than the sony laptop, i wouldn't know because i've never had one but i had the same problem with the blurriness. I switched the resolution to 1920x1200 and everything has been very sharp since. yeah it's a little small but i also adjusted the text size under the Appearance->Advanced option window of the Display Properties.
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post #25 of 48
12/12/05 at 12:42pm
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1) The sound quality of the headphone jack may be do to your IRA port, try disabling it. (Search this forum for more details)
Wrong. That only stops some annoying squeeking, but the loud hiss remains.

Have you also noticed that headphone volume seems way overamplified? I have to turn my volume down to 1% AND lower the wave volume and front speaker volume just to bring it down enough to listen through headphones.

This is totally unacceptable for a $2,000+ machine, especially when a cheap $400 computer from Wal-Mart can do better (yes, I've tried it).

Sager seems to keep forgetting me.
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post #26 of 48
12/13/05 at 12:19am
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yeah man you have to keep the volume waaay down when using headphones....i said to hell with the soundcard....bought an Audigy
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post #27 of 48
12/13/05 at 12:25am
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anyone know what the heck these dotted lines are at the bottom of my lcd?
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post #28 of 48
12/13/05 at 12:49am
soft shadow in FEAR cuts the performance by at least half. I suggest you turn that thing off.

I play at 1920x1280 or 1600 I forgot at max setting except for soft shadow and I get no lag at all.

Give that a try.
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post #29 of 48
12/13/05 at 11:30am
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yeah man you have to keep the volume waaay down when using headphones....i said to hell with the soundcard....bought an Audigy
I say, I paid nearly $2,500 for this computer and it should work.

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anyone know what the heck these dotted lines are at the bottom of my lcd?
From the little symbols on them, I'm guessing that these indicate "This side up."

Actually, those are probably the screw covers.
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post #30 of 48
12/13/05 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by DJosephDesign
I say, I paid nearly $2,500 for this computer and it should work.



From the little symbols on them, I'm guessing that these indicate "This side up."

Actually, those are probably the screw covers.
I know your pissed about the hiss, but your posts are turning into borderline spam. Every thread your whining about hiss this hiss that.... We get it.

Apparently there are a few work arounds and the potential that a future bios will fix the issue. In addition a $40 pcmcia sound card will solve the problem. The truth is that no laptops come with good integrated sound cards.
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post #31 of 48
12/13/05 at 12:52pm
There are no workarounds, Sager has said little or nothing about the problem, and any other notebook PC would have better sound than this. I'm not expecting Audigy-level audio, but I am expecting acceptable sound from a $2,500 computer.
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post #32 of 48
12/13/05 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by DJosephDesign
There are no workarounds, Sager has said little or nothing about the problem, and any other notebook PC would have better sound than this. I'm not expecting Audigy-level audio, but I am expecting acceptable sound from a $2,500 computer.
Well, I don't have a 5720 so I really can't comment on how bad it is... But my brother complained his hypersonic AX7 had a crazy amount of hiss. I told him to turn down the master volume down and turn up the 'wav' level all the way. He was shocked that virtually all of the hiss was eliminated. I thought I read here that a lot of 5720 owners here did the same thing with similar results.

My point wasn't that there isn't a minor problem with the audio... The problem is that you bring it up in every 5720 thread.
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post #33 of 48
12/13/05 at 5:59pm
what is the native resolution for your screen? Unless you bought the version with the lowest resolution, you can't possibly be able to play with everything on max on fear. I think only 7800gtx 512 and x1800xt 512 are able to play everything on max on 1600x1200, or 7800gtx 256 and above in sli of course. The 7800 gtx go does NOT have enough power to play on 1600x1200 in fear with all maxed out, sorry mate. You have to turn down to 1280x1024, then you should be fine.
Answering your notepad problem, sager has an updated bios which should sort out that problem. Search around on the forums and you will find it.
To get max performance out of your laptop, download the newest graphic drivers. I beleive 81.94 is the newest for mobile chips(while 81.95 is the newest for non-mobile chips).
If you feel like getting even more power out of your notebook, you could consider ocing the gpu and cpu. however, I think you should be a bit more skilled before moving on to that.

GOD I wish I had your notebook!
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post #34 of 48
12/13/05 at 7:53pm
well, sad to say Granulf is right. I was playing with the newest drivers and res set to 1280 x 1024 and it was 95% smooth. Of course its the 5% hiccup you see. Even turned off soft shadows and lowered the AA to 4x. Get great framerates in the test but still, next time I will turn it down further.

The thing is FEAR isnt even that great a game. Hardly seems worth all the trouble.....
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post #35 of 48
12/13/05 at 9:19pm
Actually OEM Sony doesn't put any screens on there laptops and ODM Asustek does and that same screen is used on other OEM's products. Sager is made by Clevo and aren't the same as Sony's screens.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...hp?t=25849#odm
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post #36 of 48
12/13/05 at 10:10pm
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yeah i flashed my bios and got rid of the touchpad issue, also just installed my audigy 2....what a world of difference...definately worth the $85...and as for fear, that game has just got too many hiccups even with the settings turned down...i can play doom3 with all the settings maxed and no problems, much more enjoyable...its friggin awesome, i love it
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post #37 of 48
12/14/05 at 12:53am
FEAR is great. Doom3 got WAY too repetitive. I think the AI in FEAR is pretty decent as well. They sure throw nades at just the right time. I have to run it at 1024x768, no soft shadows and everything else on medium.
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post #38 of 48
12/15/05 at 6:14am
If you tried FEAR on anything more than like... 1024x768 and expect to get playable framerates, think again. This game brings SLI 7800GT to its Knees (on 1600x1200 atleast). It takes atleast SLI 7800GTX 512 or X1800XT Crossfire to be playable on or near native resolution.

This one of the reasons I don't understand why people go for the 1920x1200 or super high res screens on a 17" monitor. No way in hell new games will run well. The 7800GTX GO is basically a desktop 7800GT in performance... which is a bit better than an x850xt, and thats onlyl a bit better than a 6800 Ultra...
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post #39 of 48
12/15/05 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by ForceCalibur
If you tried FEAR on anything more than like... 1024x768 and expect to get playable framerates, think again. This game brings SLI 7800GT to its Knees (on 1600x1200 atleast). It takes atleast SLI 7800GTX 512 or X1800XT Crossfire to be playable on or near native resolution.

This one of the reasons I don't understand why people go for the 1920x1200 or super high res screens on a 17" monitor. No way in hell new games will run well. The 7800GTX GO is basically a desktop 7800GT in performance... which is a bit better than an x850xt, and thats onlyl a bit better than a 6800 Ultra...
Think again, 7800gtx go WAY outperforms both x850xt and 6800 ultra. If you want to, you can oc this beast up to having somewhat like 8000 in 3dmark 05. 6800 ultra is a power hungry monster which drains your battery, which again makes it produce more heat, which again make the pc more noisy, and it COULD clock the graphic card down if it gets too hot. Read some in the dell forums, and you get my point. Why do people buy 1900x1200? Well, you get a HELL of a lot working space, and you can run some older games on those resolutions...

btw, those hiccups you refer to may come of lack of ram. Check if the hd activity light is flashing when you get hiccups. If it does, the pc propably have to use pagefile located on the hard drive instead of the ram, which greatly slows the game down, especially if you got a 5400rpm hard drive.
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post #40 of 48
12/16/05 at 8:33am
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umm, i got 2 gigs of ram and a 100GB 7200 rpm...
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