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Dell 9300 vs. Alienware Area-51 m5700

post #1 of 68
Thread Starter 
Hi,
Both computer are very similar. Same GUP (6800 Go), same board (Intel 915PM).
USB: AW = 4 Dell = 6
Video out: AW = DVI Dell = DVI and 15 pin conn
Both Systems: 17” WideUXGA 1920x1200 LCD Display
But AW has Raid 0 Capabilities.

Both system as a +/- $100 same price.

What do you think will be better system? The GPU of the AW can be upgraded likes on the 9300?

Please advice,
Xav
post #2 of 68
Was just looking at these to I have the i9300 and love it but the AW is HAWT.

It came do to Warrnety for me and the fact that Dell sends me the parts and a tech to my house where the AW you send to them.
post #3 of 68
Thread Starter 
Good point. I didn't buy the AW because the shipping, $300 to Puerto Rico.
post #4 of 68
shipping is NOT $300 to PR, AW is so full of sh*t. But yeah...dell is probably better for you since their support will be faster and their warranty possibly longer (3 year dell care package?)
post #5 of 68
well, you might not have all the coupons for the dell. i configured both and my dell comes to about 250-300 less with the 750 and 100$ off coupons. i also geo a backpack and printer with that. if money is no matter, get the AW. my .02
post #6 of 68
9300=7800gtx=winner
post #7 of 68
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by abf
shipping is NOT $300 to PR, AW is so full of sh*t. But yeah...dell is probably better for you since their support will be faster and their warranty possibly longer (3 year dell care package?)
I do the research. The exact cost is $253 s&h to PR. I can do a lot with $253, including the 7800 upgrade. Then add the 6.6% tax.

Xav
post #8 of 68
ez go w/ AW
post #9 of 68
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Originally Posted by Imperial Guard
ez go w/ AW
I love post like this ok Fanboy why should he? How about some reasons?
post #10 of 68
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarqHelmet
I love post like this ok Fanboy why should he? How about some reasons?

Good question Darq. Now im 30 years old. Since 1996 I ever dream to has an AW. Then when my HP ZE4610 (ATI 320M) start to sux on games I started to research for a new laptop. Believe me I started the research on summer 2005 and now after a lot of reading and searching i select the 9300. Why? First price, S&H of AW to Puerto Rico sux badly ($253). Then the 7800 upgradeability and dell service (comparing vs AW and reading a lot of complaints of both companies)

My 2 cents,
Xav
post #11 of 68
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Originally Posted by Xattica

Good question Darq. Now im 30 years old. Since 1996 I ever dream to has an AW. Then when my HP ZE4610 (ATI 320M) start to sux on games I started to research for a new laptop. Believe me I started the research on summer 2005 and now after a lot of reading and searching i select the 9300. Why? First price, S&H of AW to Puerto Rico sux badly ($253). Then the 7800 upgradeability and dell service (comparing vs AW and reading a lot of complaints of both companies)

My 2 cents,
Xav
Same Reasons more or less I went with my 9300 the 7800 upgrade wasn't there at the time but its awesome now. But for me the fact was that DELL COMES TO ME, I dont have to ship my laptop anywhere so I am never without it.
post #12 of 68
I am seriously considering the dell 9300 with the go 256 6800. I am primarily buying this laptop to play bf2 on the road. Do you guys have ANY other suggestions?
post #13 of 68
Thats my main game it runs great not full out on the eye candy but it runs smooth at 1600x1200 with most things on high AA off and Dyanmic shadows and light at low.

GET 2 gigs of ram newegg has it cheap so Dell dosn;t RAPE you with there prices.
post #14 of 68
ya, i wish every ODM was like sony. http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...ssories_Memory

its a 512mb stick, take a peak at the price on the right in the link.
post #15 of 68
$300 for a 512mb stick? lol...i can buy 2gb and have some $ left over for $300
post #16 of 68
post #17 of 68
Clevo will last longer than Dell. Both are low quality machines though.
Clevo D900 series (AW) is fully upgradable with its video card, so you can buy one later to upgrade if you need to.
WUXGA screens are useless. Stick with WSXGA - you can't use HDTV on UXGA efficiently, there are no games you will play in WUXGA and no work you will do in UXGA. 17" is too small for such a high resolution. Make sure you get WSXGA regardless.
post #18 of 68
Well first off cantora you should probably say instead of low-quality that they aren't ruggedized, since most people seem to find both machines pretty sturdy. Secondly most people prefer the wuxga over the wsxga on 17" notebooks. Thirdly their is a much larger price difference then what you may think if you configure the 9300 correctly and buy aftermarket ram. Fourth point is there are many games that play at wuxga resolution, where are you pulling this information out of? Personally I'd go for the 9300 and do a lot of aftermarket upgrades, hang out and the dell forum for a while and you'll learn you can get the best gaming laptop money can buy for around 1600 dollars.
post #19 of 68
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Well first off cantora you should probably say instead of low-quality that they aren't ruggedized, since most people seem to find both machines pretty sturdy. Secondly most people prefer the wuxga over the wsxga on 17" notebooks.
Well not so much ruggedized, just the internal parts. I've worked as a notebook technician and sales consultant for mmmm 6 years - which is where I am "pulling" this information from. I have worked for Acer, TPG, Queensland Goverment & a couple of retail stores (where I am now). And from what I have discovered over the years, the internal quality has never impressed me on Dell or Clevo and neither has the build quality. I would add these two up and put a "low quality" sticker on them.

As a sales consultant with notebooks I have found that the majority of my customers looking for 17" notebooks buy WSXGA because UXGA is only really useful for drafting but nothing else (I shouldn't have said "no work" in my other post). I know for a simple, proven, fact that my customers want an SWXGA, especially those who play games.
I quote what I have found through quite alot of experience. there are few games that you would want to run efficiently in 1920x1200, even with a 7800GTX video card + your lack of digital TV support makes a 1920 resolution pointless over a 1680. And yeah, I am also a gamer, of course (FPS/MMO). Sure WOW and GuildWars might be slightly better with a higher resolution but still not 1900+. A flight simulator would probably be fine in 1900 but then, if you're running MSFS 2005 in 1920 you're going to want to make sure everything in your computer works beautifully. You're going to run most games in 1280-1680 anyway, especially FPS, that and considering most notebooks with the U and S screens these days are gloss. Gloss screens are very nice, to a degree, but when you're form is so small that you can barely see individual bits of detail the slightest reflection on the gloss is quite frustrating.

I hope that answers your quests as to where I get my information from and backs up the points I made. I am more than happy to accept that you have your personal opinion but I make my money of working with what people want+need. Knowing the quality of my products (how much they should be warrented) is also quite important.
post #20 of 68
I say go for the 9300, and like other people said, go for aftermarket RAM upgrades. It will save you some money. Plus, if you go with Dell, you'll know that you didn't pay a high markup for some stupid alienhead logos.
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