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post #21 of 68
The point I was trying to make is over on the dell forum a majority of users prefer the wuxga screen over the wxga, this has been verified beyond a resonable doubt. Playing games on a wuxga is no problem either, lowering the resolution makes the games still makes for some good eye candy. It actually looks better to play games on a high res screen at a low resolution than a mid res screen at a low resolution, this I say from experience.

I wasn't trying to put you down dude btw, but saying that your in sales really isn't going to impress me too much . . . there are more than a fair share of saleman who do not know squat about what they are selling. Especially at retail stores such as best buy and the like.
post #22 of 68
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Originally Posted by pflanagan
The point I was trying to make is over on the dell forum a majority of users prefer the wuxga screen over the wxga, this has been verified beyond a resonable doubt. Playing games on a wuxga is no problem either, lowering the resolution makes the games still makes for some good eye candy. It actually looks better to play games on a high res screen at a low resolution than a mid res screen at a low resolution, this I say from experience.

I wasn't trying to put you down dude btw, but saying that your in sales really isn't going to impress me too much . . . there are more than a fair share of saleman who do not know squat about what they are selling. Especially at retail stores such as best buy and the like.

Everyone i know, (myself included) prefers wsxga honestly. wuxga is really not needed, or practical for that matter. Text will be stupidly hard to read, and if you change your resolution, then you lose the quality of the image as it becomes blurry. The few that want wuxga only want it because its the highest resolution and more expensive, which for some reason they think means better quality. (also keep in mind wuxga will have a higher % rate of dead pixels compared to wsxga)

Cantora had the right of it.
post #23 of 68
Dude for text you increase the dpi, duh. This really doesnt detract from quality either. I was referring to games when talking about resolutions, and they really do look good even at lower than native.

And as far as user preference goes, I said check out the dell forum. If you bothered to do that then maybe youd learn a thing or two.

Also just having more pixels does not necessarily mean a higher chance of gettin dead pixels, it depends much more on the laptop your getting.
post #24 of 68
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Originally Posted by pflanagan
And as far as user preference goes, I said check out the dell forum. If you bothered to do that then maybe youd learn a thing or two.

Also just having more pixels does not necessarily mean a higher chance of gettin dead pixels, it depends much more on the laptop your getting.
LoL, so Dell users somehow sum up everyones preference? Give me a break, you Dellfanboys think you know everything and get all fussy when no one agrees with you or thinks they way you think. Seriously drop the ego trip, open your narrow mind, stop worshipping Dells, research and lookaround... "you might learn a thing or two".

And yes having more pixels DOES increase the chance of getting a DEAD PIXEL(s)! (again think before you speak)
Many manufacturers toss out a good portion of the screens they make and ship the ones they consider acceptable (usually 5 or less dead pixels) however those companies dont always check either.

LoL thanks for the good laugh though, the fine blend of ignorance and ego was entirely entertaining.


PS: this might be an interesting read http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...ht=wsxga+wuxga
post #25 of 68
Thats refering to a 15.4" screen . . . try doing a little reading before linking. . . and the reason why you have the false belief that a wuxga has a higher probability of having a dead pixel is that your applying incorrect mathematics.

Statistically speaking if each pixel on all screens had the same probability of being dead then you would be correct, but as I pointed out this is not the case, thus your arguement is flawed.

You do give me a good laugh though . . .
post #26 of 68
I love my 1920x1200, wouldn't trade it for anything at this point. I don't care if I'm the majority or not; I just love my screen. Games, movies, office apps, it all rocks on this screen.

@RabenWolf: BTW I don't think I need to "learn a thing or two" for a total of $1700 I have one of the best portable gaming machines available, unless you can name a few others getting ~7200 3Dmarks for that price. That extra 3000 points is definitely apparent in newer games as well. I have been more than happy with my purchase and even more so after I upgraded my card.
post #27 of 68
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Originally Posted by RabenWolf
LoL, so Dell users somehow sum up everyones preference? Give me a break, you Dellfanboys think you know everything and get all fussy when no one agrees with you or thinks they way you think. Seriously drop the ego trip, open your narrow mind, stop worshipping Dells, research and lookaround... "you might learn a thing or two".

And yes having more pixels DOES increase the chance of getting a DEAD PIXEL(s)! (again think before you speak)
Many manufacturers toss out a good portion of the screens they make and ship the ones they consider acceptable (usually 5 or less dead pixels) however those companies dont always check either.

LoL thanks for the good laugh though, the fine blend of ignorance and ego was entirely entertaining.


PS: this might be an interesting read http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...ht=wsxga+wuxga
no one here is being a dell fanboy. the only person who is doing something wrong is you, by bashing dell. on the wuxga, you are less likely to SEE a dead pixel anyway. and for <1800$, i will have one hell of a gaming laptop.
post #28 of 68
Thread Starter 
How the hell an easy question about comparing two computers is converted on a fire fight?
Rabenwolf:
If you has a point, please use any supporting data to back up your statements. Sames apply to everybody.

Thanks for all your help. At last I bought the Dell.

Xat
post #29 of 68
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Originally Posted by Xattica
How the hell an easy question about comparing two computers is converted on a fire fight?
Rabenwolf:
If you has a point, please use any supporting data to back up your statements. Sames apply to everybody.

Thanks for all your help. At last I bought the Dell.

Xat

I have no idea how they always turn it into one honestly. Just by giving your opinion you have ALL dell (over exageration) users wanting to flame you. Its really sad.

I already stated my point, it was simple and opinionated with a mix of facts. wuxga screens have a higher probability of having dead or stuck pixels. its the way current lcd technology today. I also stated from experience that the wuxga screens show text extremely small, and that the resolution is over kill. however yes the dpi can change the text, there is still the matter of games. Changing resolutions from its native resolution seems to lower the image sharpness for some reason.

My friends, associates and I prefer the wsxga. That is all and if people dont like our opinions, there is no need to get all defensive. I said the faults from my opinion of the wuxga, can someone tell me the faults of the wsxga?

as to the dell comment, i was not bashing the company, but the users who get defensive over someone not agreeing with them. As if by not agreeing with them you insult whatever ego trip they are on. (this is not a generalization of all dell users). Notice all of the people who had something negative to say to me own the same laptop, notice the same way they respond. Notice how pflandagan assumed i dont read the Dell forum that i dont know anything. The dell forum... why are you basing someones opinion and qualifications on the Dell forum only? I feel bad for you who dont see this blatent egotistical and childish nature.


ADD: Evidence is right here by the way http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...ght=3790+WUxga , please read this as its very informative.
post #30 of 68
I have a 9300, but that Alienware is great, the dual hard drive is great
post #31 of 68
I see that Rabenwolf is making friends in another thread. I also noticed that that good ol "ignorance" word was thrown out once again. I don't need a crystal ball to see that you won't last long here my friend.
post #32 of 68
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Originally Posted by Unleaded
I don't need a crystal ball to see that you won't last long here my friend.
thems fighting words.
post #33 of 68
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RabenWolf
I have no idea how they always turn it into one honestly. Just by giving your opinion you have ALL dell (over exageration) users wanting to flame you. Its really sad.

I already stated my point, it was simple and opinionated with a mix of facts. wuxga screens have a higher probability of having dead or stuck pixels. its the way current lcd technology today. I also stated from experience that the wuxga screens show text extremely small, and that the resolution is over kill. however yes the dpi can change the text, there is still the matter of games. Changing resolutions from its native resolution seems to lower the image sharpness for some reason.

My friends, associates and I prefer the wsxga. That is all and if people dont like our opinions, there is no need to get all defensive. I said the faults from my opinion of the wuxga, can someone tell me the faults of the wsxga?

as to the dell comment, i was not bashing the company, but the users who get defensive over someone not agreeing with them. As if by not agreeing with them you insult whatever ego trip they are on. (this is not a generalization of all dell users). Notice all of the people who had something negative to say to me own the same laptop, notice the same way they respond. Notice how pflandagan assumed i dont read the Dell forum that i dont know anything. The dell forum... why are you basing someones opinion and qualifications on the Dell forum only? I feel bad for you who dont see this blatent egotistical and childish nature.


ADD: Evidence is right here by the way http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...ght=3790+WUxga , please read this as its very informative.

Thanks for replay. I think this is a very good forum. I really don't like flames and figth. Also for me, prior to my 9300 purchase, Dell sux. Now they (Dell) have an opportunity to erase that from my head. I have a Latitude D600 (company laptop) and is about 8 out of 10. My HP ZE4600 is better than the D600, faster. Maybe is because all the junk that the company use for firewalls and antivirus, shiva, encryptions and all other crap.

No hard feelings.
post #34 of 68
Raben what do you expect when you insult people continually and never really bother to back up anything you say. Basically everything you've written is opinion and supposition. I made points and explained my reasoning, just do the same in response, without mixing in our personal opinions about which brand is best in their.

Earlier I never even said dell was the greatest, I simply stated the dell forum is extremely active and a great place to learn stuff about the 9300, since that is one of the laptops this thread is discussing.
post #35 of 68
I like WUXGA over WSXGA because I can see more text on the screen. For people with less than optimal eyesight, WUXGA renders text too small to be comfortably seen.

I like Dell over Alienware because I have just seen too many horrible complaints about Alienware. I've seen complaints from Dell users, too, but Dell sells 100 times (guess-timate) more notebooks than Alienware, yet Alienware has more complaints. I also think that Alienware makes false claims. They have claimed to design their notebooks and that their notebooks are unique when in fact they are just rebranding Uniwill and Clevo notebooks. They also made false claims in their comparison to the Dell 9300 on their site. I've also owned at least 6 Dell notebooks and been super satisfied with the Dell hardware and customer service. I've owned 1 Alienware notebook, and while it was pretty cool, Alienware wants nothing to do with second hand owners. I've transferred warranties for several Dell notebooks and Dell treats you just like a preferred customer. Well that's my opinions and experiences. I'll probably never buy anything from Alienware, but I might by another Clevo based model, probably from a Sager reseller like PCTorque.
post #36 of 68
I thought were already dealt with this text issue, its as easy as increasing dpi. And increasing dpi really doesnt detract from quality based on what I've seen.
post #37 of 68
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Originally Posted by pflanagan
Raben what do you expect when you insult people continually and never really bother to back up anything you say. Basically everything you've written is opinion and supposition. I made points and explained my reasoning, just do the same in response, without mixing in our personal opinions about which brand is best in their.
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Thats what i was doing, giving opinion on the screens and WHY it was so, which btw was based on personal experience. I never said which brand was better did i? no i didnt. Shame on you for not seeing that. I explained why and you didnt let it go.

Here lets look at my first post: "Everyone i know, (myself included) prefers wsxga honestly. wuxga is really not needed, or practical for that matter. Text will be stupidly hard to read, and if you change your resolution, then you lose the quality of the image as it becomes blurry. The few that want wuxga only want it because its the highest resolution and more expensive, which for some reason they think means better quality. (also keep in mind wuxga will have a higher % rate of dead pixels compared to wsxga)"

How is this different from giving opinion and backing it up? You find fault where there is none.
And if giving an observation on some dellfanboys insults you, then yes i guess im guilty as charged. ::

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Originally Posted by pflanagan
Earlier I never even said dell was the greatest, I simply stated the dell forum is extremely active and a great place to learn stuff about the 9300, since that is one of the laptops this thread is discussing.
You respond to my opinion with and I quote you :
"I said check out the dell forum. If you bothered to do that then maybe youd learn a thing or two." (you expect this to be interpeted kindly? lol)

Hmm theres a difference between the two yes.
You have to admit the first post you made was far from being "friendly". There was an undertone of superiority, and not at all kind. Thus Who was insulting who. It is funny to see someone say one thing rudely and then back it up by saying it nicely as if thats how they said it all along.
post #38 of 68
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Originally Posted by sonicwind
I like WUXGA over WSXGA because I can see more text on the screen. For people with less than optimal eyesight, WUXGA renders text too small to be comfortably seen.

I like Dell over Alienware because I have just seen too many horrible complaints about Alienware. I've seen complaints from Dell users, too, but Dell sells 100 times (guess-timate) more notebooks than Alienware, yet Alienware has more complaints. I also think that Alienware makes false claims. They have claimed to design their notebooks and that their notebooks are unique when in fact they are just rebranding Uniwill and Clevo notebooks. They also made false claims in their comparison to the Dell 9300 on their site. I've also owned at least 6 Dell notebooks and been super satisfied with the Dell hardware and customer service. I've owned 1 Alienware notebook, and while it was pretty cool, Alienware wants nothing to do with second hand owners. I've transferred warranties for several Dell notebooks and Dell treats you just like a preferred customer. Well that's my opinions and experiences. I'll probably never buy anything from Alienware, but I might by another Clevo based model, probably from a Sager reseller like PCTorque.

I agree to some extent about AW's claims and support. They do have a nice resellvalue however.

I like your sony, were you the guy that did the logo with a sharpy? its nice looking.
post #39 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by pflanagan
The point I was trying to make is over on the dell forum a majority of users prefer the wuxga screen over the wxga, this has been verified beyond a resonable doubt. Playing games on a wuxga is no problem either, lowering the resolution makes the games still makes for some good eye candy. It actually looks better to play games on a high res screen at a low resolution than a mid res screen at a low resolution, this I say from experience.

I wasn't trying to put you down dude btw, but saying that your in sales really isn't going to impress me too much . . . there are more than a fair share of saleman who do not know squat about what they are selling. Especially at retail stores such as best buy and the like.
Gotcha. Thought you meant people in general preffer wsxga.
And I understand not being impressed by sales people. Especially online stores, like best buy - i wouldn't trust an online store "sales person" as far as I can throw. (I am not sure if you thought I worked for BB, but if you do, I definately don't ). But I use the reference as a back up of knowing how many customres like wuxga and wsxga. Chrz for the response
post #40 of 68
Thread Starter 
The WUXGA on the 9300 is just beautiful.
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