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post #1 of 338
12/10/05 at 10:32pm
Thread Starter 
Uh-huh.
There is a big a$$ "WARNUNG" and text on the german Amilo M3438G page here that says there is a common problem with the M3438G/M4438G laptops that can lead to strange performance problems, pauses and erratic behaviour.

This is straight from the Fujitsu-Siemens itself.

I suggest that you all take a look at it. I really, really hate that it's only in german and you need to use the damn Babelfish or like to get any idea what is really said there if you don't yourself speak german....
So if anybody who's fluent could make a translation to english from what is said on the page about this subject and then post it here, I would be very thankful and most likely would rep you more than couple times.

So please, someone?
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post #2 of 338
12/11/05 at 8:59am
RuptuReD!

I'm not fluent in German, but I have read the thread both in english and german and think I understand the problem described here. I have seen City Cobra talking about these problems before. He describes problems regarding jerks and lags during game play. In particular these problems are evident when playing World Of Warcraft, Warcraft3 Frozen of thrones and Quake 3. Members of the german Amilo forum seem to have traced the problems to the IRQ ressources shown in the system properties.

I have checked my own IRQ settings and they match City Cobra's. I have not played the games mentioned above, but I have noticed lags from time to time. Especially when I have played certain films.

It seems that Uniwill have taken notice of this problem and that they are currently working on a solution, The same goes for FS.

Personally I have not experienced these problems in the same extent as City Cobra. But the apparent conflict in the IRQ settings do worry me. If you could check yours and post any troubles here it would be great. I will try to send a e-mail to city cobra and ask him to make a posting here and explain these problems in english.
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post #3 of 338
12/11/05 at 9:07am
How can I display any IRQ conflicts ???
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post #4 of 338
12/11/05 at 9:54am
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You can view the IRQ settings from Start -> Control Panel -> Performance and maintenance -> System -> Hardware tab -> Device Manager -> There select: Show, Resources by type and then IRQ.
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post #5 of 338
12/11/05 at 12:59pm
Thread Starter 
Just how great it would be if all the posts on http://www.amilo-forum.de were in english?
Translators still needed here to make sense from this all...
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post #6 of 338
12/11/05 at 1:25pm
I contacted City Cobra and here is what he replied:

Hi TapDance,

i give your Email to Borkar from Amilo-Forum, because his english ist 1000x better as mine.
I think your have say it fine in the notebooksforums.com and you have understand all.

I told Borkar, that he should open a new thread in notebooksforums.com about this problem in english, then i will make a link to the thread on my site.

Greetings
Michael
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post #7 of 338
12/11/05 at 2:00pm
hey mates!
just registered to your forum. I will write a new thread about the current problem of the Mx438G and all relevant information about the detection of the so called 'lagging issue' and the process how FSC deals with that.
A link to this topic will be posted here as well.

cu soon

Borkar
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post #8 of 338
12/11/05 at 6:45pm
ok, i postet a summery here
http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...92#post1482092

please reply annotations to that thread in this thread to keep the other one clear. Thx
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post #9 of 338
12/11/05 at 7:13pm
Thread Starter 
I wonder whether the AlienWare Area-51 m5700 has this same bug as it's(?) basically the same machine?
Could there be any chance that the BIOS in the AW machine would work for the Fujitsu and have better range of options (maybe the ability to change the IRQs for example)?

However, thanks a lot from the rundown Borkar.
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post #10 of 338
12/11/05 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by RuptuReD
I wonder whether the AlienWare Area-51 m5700 has this same bug as it's(?) basically the same machine?
Could there be any chance that the BIOS in the AW machine would work for the Fujitsu and have better range of options (maybe the ability to change the IRQs for example)?

However, thanks a lot from the rundown Borkar.
No, the AW NB should have the same problems since it is the same machine with the same drivers and the same BIOS. And they are all built by the same manufacturer.
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post #11 of 338
12/12/05 at 8:34pm
Changelog of http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=121724 :

12-12-05
Updated template email to FSC support. Added BIOS version, Video-BIOS version and nVidia driver version.
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post #12 of 338
12/13/05 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by RuptuReD
I wonder whether the AlienWare Area-51 m5700 has this same bug as it's(?) basically the same machine?
Could there be any chance that the BIOS in the AW machine would work for the Fujitsu and have better range of options (maybe the ability to change the IRQs for example)?

However, thanks a lot from the rundown Borkar.
I doubt the AW BIOS would help any...although it might be modified to correct the problem, it prolly wouldn't have any options you could adjust yourself. My older AW has a BIOS that is incredibly locked down, about the only thing that can be changed are boot drives and internal wireless.
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post #13 of 338
12/14/05 at 1:48pm
r u guys talking about momentary freezing, like on mp3s when it will jus go bzzz for a split second then carry on, or on vids where a similar thing happens except vid freezes as well
if so i hav an amilo 1437g and i get the same thing
im runnin 1.86 gig ram 80g sata with reasonably updated machine
cheers
dev

btw i wish i spoke german cos amiloforums rocks
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post #14 of 338
12/14/05 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by dev
r u guys talking about momentary freezing, like on mp3s when it will jus go bzzz for a split second then carry on, or on vids where a similar thing happens except vid freezes as well
if so i hav an amilo 1437g and i get the same thing
im runnin 1.86 gig ram 80g sata with reasonably updated machine
cheers
dev

btw i wish i spoke german cos amiloforums rocks
1437 has the same mainboard. So it is probable, that you have the same bug as well. But I have not got so many replies of people with a 1437 machine, so the 1437 is not mentioned in the article. But I guess that a fix for this issue will also be a fix for the 1437.
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post #15 of 338
12/15/05 at 3:23pm
I own a 3448G and sometimes it crashes and freezes at startup. I also have some of that lag problem while listening to music. I'll send that template email.
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post #16 of 338
12/15/05 at 4:08pm
So this problem is a bug that is possible for FS to fix?
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post #17 of 338
12/15/05 at 4:16pm
updated http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...44#post1498044
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post #18 of 338
12/15/05 at 7:55pm
I have definately noticed probs in Call of Duty so have sent off the template...
I have also just extended my warrantly to 3 years for cost of £100 on the fujitsu online shop. I figure for the extra £100 I am guaranteed a lappy for at least 3 years...
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post #19 of 338
12/19/05 at 10:04am
Out of this (Serious performance problem Mx438G - applications hang in random intervals for <2 sec) Thread:
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Originally Posted by tapdance
Great news.

Good work, Borkar
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Originally Posted by Obscuru
U know in what consist this "bugfix" ? Bios update ? drivers update ?
I act on the assumption that it will be a BIOS Update that will also update the RAID-BIOS.
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post #20 of 338
12/19/05 at 10:40am
Yeah this sux.. i have it too. It wasnt untill yesterday when me and my pals installed Fifa06 and NHL06. Was gonna play those games through 3438G and my projector. Game freezing once a minute for 1-2 secs. Pretty irritating.
You can add to the list. Fifa05, Fifa06, NHL06, Need for Speed Most Wanted, Raven Shield.

Unplayable cos of this, i was gonna go and send my laptop back and get my money back as well.. but i guess i can wait untill january =)
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