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8790 in January or Wait till Feb For New Intel CPU?

post #1 of 17
12/27/03 at 6:40am
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If the 8790 comes out in January, I will be faced with a tough decision. I know you can always wait and something new and exciting is always around the corner.

But I think that the Intel's release of the 3.2P4E ghz with 1mb of l2 cache is worth waiting a couple of weeks (especially since it will supposedly be only 274$).

What do you think? Wait the extra couple of weeks or just get a normal p4 in January? Will the extra cache make that much of a difference (I am a gamer). I am also concerned that if I do indeed wait, Sager will not offer the 3.2 1mb cache at launch (seeing that the 3.2 2mb cache took some time before it was offered) and I really cannot wait until Mid March for my next system (mid Feb would be pushing it).

You advice would greatly be appreciated.
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post #2 of 17
12/27/03 at 9:02am
If you are really serious about gaming, you'd probably want to wait for the 3.2P4E processor because it will likely be a substantial advantage, if pricewise. However, if you are really serious about that cut-off date, then you may be waiting in vain, it very well could be a couple months before that processor gets incorporated by SAGER, if it does at all. I think it will be, but not right away. Then again, its also questionable whether the 8790 will actually be available in mid January. PCT has been pretty good with dates, maybe a week or so late. That date is also backed up by other resellers which gives more credibility. My guess is probably by the end of January.

You might want to reconsider your criteria, especially your computing needs and time-table, if it really is primarily for gaming, why the hard time-table? On the other hand, if its for school or work, what are you doing that needs such power?
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post #3 of 17
12/27/03 at 9:35am
In your situation I'd probably buy the 8790 with whatever processor on its release, then when the 1mb 3.2 is out, buy it, fit it yourself and ebay the old cpu. That way you'd probably have your ideal 8790 before Sager even offers it.
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post #4 of 17
12/27/03 at 2:02pm
I agree with robert 602, that is probably what I will do, but Ill have to wait a while longer so my parents dont start screaming at me about making the wrong decision with my purchases and not waiting... am I ranting? Oh, well.

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post #5 of 17
12/27/03 at 3:14pm
Wait for Prescott and hope that the WUXGA screen will be available at the same time!
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post #6 of 17
12/27/03 at 3:28pm
Could wait for the 10 GHz quantum processor, too. I hear it's due out sometime in the next millennium.
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post #7 of 17
12/27/03 at 4:13pm
Colin, I know that waiting forever for a new processor is stupid, but if you don't absolutely need a new computer right away which few of us really do, there will be significant performance increases, they will be cheaper, and the new processors are less than a month away it is almost stupid not to wait if you have the patience.

Wow, that was long.
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post #8 of 17
12/27/03 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by jmanjohns
Colin, I know that waiting forever for a new processor is stupid, but if you don't absolutely need a new computer right away which few of us really do, there will be significant performance increases, they will be cheaper, and the new processors are less than a month away it is almost stupid not to wait if you have the patience.

Wow, that was long.

Actually, the 1GB L2-cache P4s will be out sometime in February, so it's more like two months. This assumes Intel meets that date, and is shipping in quantity. It may well be March, April, or even later before you can actually get your hands on them.

And, in July, the P4s will no longer use Socket 478.
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post #9 of 17
12/27/03 at 9:15pm
WOW i wonder wht a 1gb cache would be like....lol j/k

Well i am personally waiting for the prescott, i bet the 1mb of cache and the improved instructions and hyper threading would help.....i also plan to buy it around feb and march.
By the way did u read on inquirer, they say that boxed prescotts may already be out so i wonder how much time b4 we can get em in laptops.
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post #10 of 17
12/27/03 at 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by He|iX
WOW i wonder wht a 1gb cache would be like....lol j/k

1MB. I'm on lots of painkillers right now. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.
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post #11 of 17
12/27/03 at 11:53pm
MCL, what socket will the P4s be using? I was planning on milking my purchase for years on processor upgrades but if they don't fit, Ill have to pay the $800 to upgrade the mobo .
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post #12 of 17
12/28/03 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by jmanjohns
MCL, what socket will the P4s be using? I was planning on milking my purchase for years on processor upgrades but if they don't fit, Ill have to pay the $800 to upgrade the mobo .
I think they're calling it "Socket I" or something. The name isn't important. What is important is that, come July, Intel will be changing the pin package of the P4s, and they won't work in Socket 478s anymore.

I was planning on buying the upgrade anyway, because there's also a memory technology change and a graphics bus change in the works for next year.

$800 for a mobo with a new socket, a PCI Express 16X bus for a new R420 ATi mobile, and DDR-II would be well worth it, IMO.
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post #13 of 17
12/28/03 at 12:46am

ah sarcasm


I waited all summer for my 5680 :-)
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post #14 of 17
12/28/03 at 1:07am
Aren't you glad you use pain killers? Don't you wish everyone did? Or at least Dial soap.

Meanwhile, I am not so sure the new mobo upgrades to PCI Express and so on will be just $800. Indeed, the new mobos with all that stuff may not even fit in the current cases, not to mention the cooling issues. The new higher revving CPUs will be putting out more heat and the new Graphics chips will do the same, except more so. Same with the new memory. Just a matter of how much juice you push through there in a given amount of time. It will probably be cheaper to simply buy a new machine. There's probably going to be some interesting screen changes as well. All-in-all, it should be an exciting new year.
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post #15 of 17
12/28/03 at 1:32am
Thanks Mcl. That sounds like a motherload of power for a measly 800 bucks. I think Ill just buy the 5680 with a normal P4 and upgrade for the price of a low end laptop in a year or two.
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post #16 of 17
12/28/03 at 2:07am
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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
Aren't you glad you use pain killers? Don't you wish everyone did? Or at least Dial soap.

Meanwhile, I am not so sure the new mobo upgrades to PCI Express and so on will be just $800. Indeed, the new mobos with all that stuff may not even fit in the current cases, not to mention the cooling issues. The new higher revving CPUs will be putting out more heat and the new Graphics chips will do the same, except more so. Same with the new memory. Just a matter of how much juice you push through there in a given amount of time. It will probably be cheaper to simply buy a new machine. There's probably going to be some interesting screen changes as well. All-in-all, it should be an exciting new year.


Actually, the new CPUs will pull less power, so the heat output should be about the same. As the die size drops, the power demands drop, thus the heat drops. But with the increased speed, the heat should be about where it is now.

Same thing for the new GPUs. Plus, the R420's a complete die redesign.
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post #17 of 17
12/28/03 at 2:16am
How about nobody buys the 8790 until the full size heatsink (the one that was in the 4760) goes back in the chassis?
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