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Sager 3880 getting WAY to hot

post #1 of 42
12/29/05 at 3:36pm
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I have been playing WoW and i have noticed the temps getting WAY to high. Low 80C IMO this is terrible cooling system and needs to be fixed. I know it has to be pretty accurate as the video card port for an external module is almost to hot to touch. it is setting on a hard surface and has good ventelation.... what is going on... and what do i need to fix this.
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post #2 of 42
12/29/05 at 3:41pm
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Yeah i just alt tabed out of WoW and saw it at 83C.

Alt - tabed a few seconds ago and it was at 85C.
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post #3 of 42
12/29/05 at 5:11pm
i would blow out the heatsinks with compressed air and maybe apply some as5
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post #4 of 42
12/29/05 at 6:37pm
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the laptop is only 2 months old. There shouldnt be this big of heat problem. Not seeing it at 85C. Putting AS5 would also require pulling the unit apart and IMO I shouldnt have to be doing this paying 1500 bux for something.
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post #5 of 42
12/29/05 at 7:07pm
I agree, I spent $2000 on my wireless hotplate. There is a thread in the tech questions section where someone e-mailed Sager and got a bios update. Not sure if any progress has been made, though. I e-mailed PCTOURQE this morning about it and have not yet received a reply. Does your screen freeze up, after it over heats?
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post #6 of 42
12/29/05 at 11:16pm
What sort of surface is your notebook resting on? Wood is not a nice surface - that will hold the heat and cause your notebook to get hot.

I recommend getting a notebook cooling pad. Even a cheap one would help you considerably. The aluminum ones by Vantec are the best. I have a Targus ChillMat - it is cheap and works, but is made of plastic, which is not good for heat dissapation.
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post #7 of 42
12/30/05 at 12:11am
Mine normally sits on a "countertop" type of surface. I was always under the impression that a Pentium M laptop was supposed to run cool. Thanks for the advice on the cooling pads, however in my opinion, I shouldn't need one.
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post #8 of 42
12/30/05 at 12:27am
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Well i havn't had it got hot enough to lock up on me... yet. But i am sure it will sooner or later.

ChazMan421:

It is setting on wood but there is not a single reason the thing should be getting 85C. I do not feel i should have to spend 50 more bux on something that shouldnt be needed. I am not sure how old you are but maybe I can explain it to you this way. The logic you are speaking is if you went out and bought a brand new car of your choice (really nice one too). Lets say the new Lexus IS350 or how about a new Hummer H3. Now you payed cash for the thing and are ready to drive off but the sales man says, oh you need to buy a new radiator as the one currently in it will allow the thing to over heat and you won't get very far. I am sure you would be rather pissed when you just dropped 30k+ on something that should come with something well enough to run the machine in nature and every day situations. Yes there are bigger and better coolers out there (after market stuff) for racing but won't be needed for every day driving .

85C translates into 185F. That is WAY to hot. I can understand 60-65, even touch 70 here and there on a really hot day but never even get close to 80. Sager WILL have problems with the thing down the road and i don't want to be stuck paying for it (motherboards going out cpus dieing, graphics cards going out) beacuse of a heat issuse. Yes they are supposed to last and run theoretically at 95C but for how long?

I am not seeings a "BIOS" update fix the problem. I say they need to take it back to the drawing board and redesign it.

I had a 3.0ghz P4 laptop that didn't get NEAR this hot and the P4 is supposedly a way hotter running cpu than the centrino cpu. I dont want this thing having a fan die and catch something on fire.
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post #9 of 42
12/30/05 at 6:17am
That much heat build-up does not sound normal. You should call Sager about the problem and find out what the deal is. If I remember correctly, the 3790's had a problem with turninng into makeshift frying pans as well but the 3880 was supposed to rectify this.

You could also try a program like Waterfall Pro to cool your CPU.
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post #10 of 42
12/30/05 at 11:49am
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I have another program that is monitoring it and is supposed to do the same thing but I can try the program that you suggests.
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post #11 of 42
12/31/05 at 1:10am
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Originally Posted by kur1j
ChazMan421:

It is setting on wood but there is not a single reason the thing should be getting 85C. I do not feel i should have to spend 50 more bux on something that shouldnt be needed. I am not sure how old you are but maybe I can explain it to you this way. The logic you are speaking is if you went out and bought a brand new car of your choice (really nice one too). Lets say the new Lexus IS350 or how about a new Hummer H3. Now you payed cash for the thing and are ready to drive off but the sales man says, oh you need to buy a new radiator as the one currently in it will allow the thing to over heat and you won't get very far. I am sure you would be rather pissed when you just dropped 30k+ on something that should come with something well enough to run the machine in nature and every day situations. Yes there are bigger and better coolers out there (after market stuff) for racing but won't be needed for every day driving
I meant no offense.

Just posting a suggestion.

Have you checked to see if the heatsinks are properly attached?
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post #12 of 42
12/31/05 at 4:34pm
he says he "doesnt want to open it"

people dont understand that cleaning is maintence for computers, they only think of running antivirus and defragging
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post #13 of 42
1/1/06 at 4:07am
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didn't mean it to sound like I took offence to it and didn't.

Doggie96, the thing is it is only 3 months old. Computers do not have to be cleaned out every 3 months. Maybe in a harsh environment but not in a clean house. It might should be cleaned out once every 2-3 years but not in the first 3 months of use.
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post #14 of 42
1/1/06 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by kur1j
didn't mean it to sound like I took offence to it and didn't.

Doggie96, the thing is it is only 3 months old. Computers do not have to be cleaned out every 3 months. Maybe in a harsh environment but not in a clean house. It might should be cleaned out once every 2-3 years but not in the first 3 months of use.
if you put it in a bag, or carry it under your arm, or have any dust in your room, yes, it needs to be cleaned out.
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post #15 of 42
1/1/06 at 11:30am
I'd definately take it apart and check out the thermal grease application. If it was improperly done (which sadly many sagers are) then it needs to be addressed. Buy some AS5 and give that a shot. If you know how to use a philipshead screwdriver then you are qualified. Just read the AS5 application instructions.

My AX7 would get really hot under certain conditions. It needed a perfectly flat surface and in a room with normal ambient temps. Anything above 75* room temp and I'd need to pull out my fan. It does sound like there's a problem with your machine, tho. Most likely air pockets in the thermal grease.
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post #16 of 42
1/1/06 at 4:43pm
my desktop needs to be cleaned out every 3 months

I would open it and apply as5, you have nothing to lose
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post #17 of 42
1/1/06 at 8:14pm
does your 3880 make a beeping sound if it gets hot? some 3880 owners including me have heard it beep when we concluded that it is the result of hot temperatures.

Toshiaki's post fortune: fire alarms are useful, even where we don't expect them to be.

-Toshiaki
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post #18 of 42
1/1/06 at 9:34pm
What is your idle temperature at? Mine stays at ~35°C and rarely touches ~70°C on high loads. I still think this is too hot, but not as bad as you guys or some other notebooks.
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post #19 of 42
1/1/06 at 11:12pm
What is your temperature for full load hell? Mine runs around 65C. This is after undervolting as well.
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post #20 of 42
1/2/06 at 4:05am
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does your 3880 make a beeping sound if it gets hot? some 3880 owners including me have heard it beep when we concluded that it is the result of hot temperatures.
Except I don't get hot temperatures, just the beeping...I've yet to clean it, will try to get that done sometime soon now that my schedule is slightly less hectic...slightly...
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