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Better Cooling for the 7800GTX - Page 19
We got a nice cold day here in Boston today, and hifiking brought to my attention the fact that I was no longer first on the ORB, I decided to take a little break and reclaim the crown
. So, without further ado, my new record and the highest laptop score on ORB is:

8433


Clocks were at 505/1350 andthe card got a little voltage boost
. Of course, with Yonah and X2-based laptops out and the mobile 7900 (hopefully) right around the corner, this record wont be long standing. I still might be able to get 8500, but, we'll see
.
. So, without further ado, my new record and the highest laptop score on ORB is:
8433



Clocks were at 505/1350 andthe card got a little voltage boost
. Of course, with Yonah and X2-based laptops out and the mobile 7900 (hopefully) right around the corner, this record wont be long standing. I still might be able to get 8500, but, we'll see
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3/19/06 at 10:13pm
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You're an idiiot, but what a score
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Can't rightly say as I didnt have temp monitoring on (uses CPU power), but off hand, I guess the CPU was at 30-35C and the graphics card was 50-55C
. Then I said screw it and with the volt mod got the score above. I have a lot of work to do, but if I hustle and get it done, I'll do a few more runs tonight
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Can't rightly say as I didnt have temp monitoring on (uses CPU power), but off hand, I guess the CPU was at 30-35C and the graphics card was 50-55C . Then I said screw it and with the volt mod got the score above. I have a lot of work to do, but if I hustle and get it done, I'll do a few more runs tonight . |
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Hey guys..
I'm really interested in adding some copper to my 7800GTX. Do we know at this point if the solid piece of copper is better or worse than the individual parts?
I also had another though about the airflow.. What if we put tape over the vents on the sides, and then drilled out the holes on the front where the speakers are. If you look where the sound comes out, theres a ton of holes and just the area where the speakers are goes through. If you took a drill bit that same size and drilled out all the other holes, you could pull in cool air from the front of the laptop, across all the components including the video card and have it sucked out the back by the fans. Any thoughts?
Also, has it been determined that 0.025" thick copper is the best to use for this application?
I'm really interested in adding some copper to my 7800GTX. Do we know at this point if the solid piece of copper is better or worse than the individual parts?
I also had another though about the airflow.. What if we put tape over the vents on the sides, and then drilled out the holes on the front where the speakers are. If you look where the sound comes out, theres a ton of holes and just the area where the speakers are goes through. If you took a drill bit that same size and drilled out all the other holes, you could pull in cool air from the front of the laptop, across all the components including the video card and have it sucked out the back by the fans. Any thoughts?
Also, has it been determined that 0.025" thick copper is the best to use for this application?
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The thread's not dead, I'm just a little bogged down with school/life
. I've used 0.025" for the shim and the heatsinks and it works fine. Personally, I think something around 0.020" would be better for the shim, but the extra 0.005" doesnt matter much and probably has a negligible impact on anything. Note that for the heatsinks I wouldnt recommend going any THINNER than 0.025". The shim is 20mm^2 to 22mm^2, anything in that range works fine. Make sure that you sand the shim with some fine sandpaper (600grit or higher) to remove any finishes they have on it and also soak it in isoprophyl alochol to remove the dust and the rest of the coatings/oxidation. As far as design goes, I like the single heatsinks ALOT better as they really get the heat out from under the card. The downside to this is it puts it in the case. I have a fan blowing right next to the card though (see the cooling dock thread), so it whisks this heat away. Personally, I would go with the singles design as it does not leave a lot of excess copper in the case, which poses a hazard of causing shorts.
I noticed
. I might be able to squeeze 8500 out of this, but I'll have to wait until I get the air conditioners going. Anyway, if that guy really pushed his card he could get 200 pts. higher than me at the least, my P-M is no match for that X2.
. I've used 0.025" for the shim and the heatsinks and it works fine. Personally, I think something around 0.020" would be better for the shim, but the extra 0.005" doesnt matter much and probably has a negligible impact on anything. Note that for the heatsinks I wouldnt recommend going any THINNER than 0.025". The shim is 20mm^2 to 22mm^2, anything in that range works fine. Make sure that you sand the shim with some fine sandpaper (600grit or higher) to remove any finishes they have on it and also soak it in isoprophyl alochol to remove the dust and the rest of the coatings/oxidation. As far as design goes, I like the single heatsinks ALOT better as they really get the heat out from under the card. The downside to this is it puts it in the case. I have a fan blowing right next to the card though (see the cooling dock thread), so it whisks this heat away. Personally, I would go with the singles design as it does not leave a lot of excess copper in the case, which poses a hazard of causing shorts.Quote:
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Originally Posted by hifiking
Sorry to say it K6, but an AMD guy took back the first place.
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. I might be able to squeeze 8500 out of this, but I'll have to wait until I get the air conditioners going. Anyway, if that guy really pushed his card he could get 200 pts. higher than me at the least, my P-M is no match for that X2.
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I'm doing my testing now. I made a single heatsink for my 7800 last night. I used to top out at 93c with Oblivion via the nVidia tool. We'll see what it tops out at now with both fans locked on high.
What do you think about my idea of drilling out the other holes near the speakers and drawing air in from the front, over the heatsinks/video card, and out the back?
What do you think about my idea of drilling out the other holes near the speakers and drawing air in from the front, over the heatsinks/video card, and out the back?
What did you make the heatsink for? RAM sinks wont really lower your temps so much (they might actually raise them, depending on their efficiency) as the temp is that of the core. However, they will raise the overclocking ability of your RAM
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I'm not sure how well the speaker design would work simply because the fans really dont drag in air from inside the laptop. If you look at the fans, they're actually almost completely isolated from the inside of the laptop. Their main function is to draw air in from underneath the laptop and blow it out the back through the heatsinks. Of course, you could always try it, you dont really know until you do.
I'm not sure how well the speaker design would work simply because the fans really dont drag in air from inside the laptop. If you look at the fans, they're actually almost completely isolated from the inside of the laptop. Their main function is to draw air in from underneath the laptop and blow it out the back through the heatsinks. Of course, you could always try it, you dont really know until you do.
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So you think that the best way to improve this heatsink is to make a small plate for the GPU itself with AS5 on both sides like you talked about earlier in this thread?
Btw, I made it out of .025 copper. I picked up two 4"x10" sheets at the hardware store on the way home from work last night.
Btw, I made it out of .025 copper. I picked up two 4"x10" sheets at the hardware store on the way home from work last night.
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Here is a pic of the heatsink that I'm working with. It's not making much of a difference over the long haul. It slowed the heatup process, but it still ends up near 90c. It's 89c right now and slowly climbing. I think I'll remove the whole thing and make a shim just for the GPU and see if that helps.
Btw, making that heatsink was a royal pain in the arse. I don't think I'll try that again. The shim I can handle. This thing was huge.

UPDATE: So I took this big heatsink off and made a shim out of .025" copper. I sanded it well with 600, 1200, 1500, and 2000, and then polished it a bit. Oblivion was up to 94c with both fans on high for about 40 minutes. I just don't think this heatsink is capable of getting rid of heat any faster. I'll probably take the shim back out and test the temps one more time and see if the temps change.
UPDATE: I took the shim out and ran Oblivian again. Temp still came out at 94 after about 40 minutes. I waited a bit longer and it got up to 95c with fans on high. I've also overclocked too so that might make sense for the slightly higher temps. I'll update my sig with this info.
Even with a 440/1250 overclock, should I still be hitting 94c in Oblivian after about an 40 mins, and 95c after an hour?
UPDATE: Using a plastic bag over my finger didn't work for me at all. I've spend the last two days trying to make things cooler, and I have... for the short term. These changes have just delayed the same final temp. If you wait long enough, the temps rise to what they were before. I've taken the out the GPU memory heatsink and the shim. Everything I do ends up with temps in the same range. I think the main problem is that the GPU fan just doesn't move enough air to remove the heat from the system. If the GPU fan ran like the CPU fan does, I think we'd be a lot better off. So I'm back to stock with just AS5 on my 7800GTX.
I don't think I'll be trying anything else unless it's a way to increase the airflow through the GPU radiator and/or the system case.
UPDATE: I realized that I had a bunch of stuff near the rear of my laptop and the space was cramped where I was doing my temp testing. So I took it to the kitchen table where the temp is 72F and the table is clear. It's been going for over an hour now running Oblivion and it topped out at 91c instead of 95c. I think the stuff behind the laptop was causing the warm air to come back to the laptop and make things hotter. I'll be sure to do my temp testing where I'm not conjesting the airflow.
Btw, making that heatsink was a royal pain in the arse. I don't think I'll try that again. The shim I can handle. This thing was huge.

UPDATE: So I took this big heatsink off and made a shim out of .025" copper. I sanded it well with 600, 1200, 1500, and 2000, and then polished it a bit. Oblivion was up to 94c with both fans on high for about 40 minutes. I just don't think this heatsink is capable of getting rid of heat any faster. I'll probably take the shim back out and test the temps one more time and see if the temps change.
UPDATE: I took the shim out and ran Oblivian again. Temp still came out at 94 after about 40 minutes. I waited a bit longer and it got up to 95c with fans on high. I've also overclocked too so that might make sense for the slightly higher temps. I'll update my sig with this info.
Even with a 440/1250 overclock, should I still be hitting 94c in Oblivian after about an 40 mins, and 95c after an hour?
UPDATE: Using a plastic bag over my finger didn't work for me at all. I've spend the last two days trying to make things cooler, and I have... for the short term. These changes have just delayed the same final temp. If you wait long enough, the temps rise to what they were before. I've taken the out the GPU memory heatsink and the shim. Everything I do ends up with temps in the same range. I think the main problem is that the GPU fan just doesn't move enough air to remove the heat from the system. If the GPU fan ran like the CPU fan does, I think we'd be a lot better off. So I'm back to stock with just AS5 on my 7800GTX.
I don't think I'll be trying anything else unless it's a way to increase the airflow through the GPU radiator and/or the system case.
UPDATE: I realized that I had a bunch of stuff near the rear of my laptop and the space was cramped where I was doing my temp testing. So I took it to the kitchen table where the temp is 72F and the table is clear. It's been going for over an hour now running Oblivion and it topped out at 91c instead of 95c. I think the stuff behind the laptop was causing the warm air to come back to the laptop and make things hotter. I'll be sure to do my temp testing where I'm not conjesting the airflow.
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