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3.06 GHz Inspiron 5150 throttling back to 1.6 GHz causing slow motion in NHL 2006

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NHL 2006 is acting weird because of the cpu throttling in my 5150.

The cpu is throttling back to 1.6 GHz as soon as it hits 72 C, even if power profile is set to 'always on'. After a few seconds the cpu cools down under 70 so the cpu speeds back to 3.06 GHz, heats up again then throttle back down again to 1.6 GHz. It goes like that for ever.

The problem is that when it's at 1.6 GHz, NHL is on slow-motion and makes the game unplayable. It seems like NHL doesn't see that the frequency has dropped at 1.6 GHz. When the throttling stops, it goes back to 3.06 GHz and then the game goes back to normal. This is extremely annoying.

Since the power options are set to 'always on', it's not Speedstep that is causing the problem. It is the cpu thermal protection that is kicking in when the cpu gets over 72 C. And it always gets over 72 C when in a game or any other task that cause 100% cpu usage.

The fans seem to work ok, there is no dust on the fins or in the cooling vents. It seems to me it's just the thing overheating because of bad design and inadequate cooling.

Finally I've tried disabling Speedstep in the BIOS since it is supposed to make the frequency stick at 1.6 GHz, but it doesn't even work. I mean it doesn't even disable Speedstep at all.
I've finally managed to make the frequency stick at 1.6 GHz using Speedswitch: the result is that NHL is in perpetual slow-motion.

I've tried the undervolting route using Centrino Hardware Control but the voltage controls are greyed out... seems like the Pentium 4-M cannot be undervoltaged ??

Any help would be appreciated as it seems I've tried everything and I'm on the verge of throwing that thing through the window !
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It seems to me it's just the thing overheating because of bad design and inadequate cooling.
Thats about it. My 5100 did a similar thing. Didn't find a fix.
post #3 of 12
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Can the P 4-M cpu be undervolted ?

I just can't believe I got a 3.06 GHz laptop and I can't play games on it !
post #4 of 12
How old is your notebook? I have a cousin with the 5100 who had a similar issue due to LOTS of dust blocking the intake and outake vents. The downclocking is occuring due to poor airflow and clearing those vents out with a strong hand vaccum or a low strength air duster (do not use high dense ones which can destroy your fans)
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^5100 is known for the overheating problem which is due to very quick accumulation of dust. The dust accumulates just behind the heatsink. Blow canned air into the exhaust in short bursts and the dust should come out of the intake. I, instead, took out the entire thermal assembly to see what was going on for myself and cleaned it. The funny thing it that when I took it, the processor was glued to it.
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DELL-Machina: It's about a year old. I already tried the air can trick, but there wasn't any dust in the vents or on the heatsink fins to begin with.

mich43L : I tried removing the heatsink-fan assembly, but it wouldn't come out. It seems to be stuck there. Do you need to disasemble the whole exterior plastic casing in order to remove the heatsink assembly ?

BTW I've assembled/disassembled many PCs but this is the first time I'm messing with a notebook... it's kinda crowded in there ;-)
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5150 and 5100 share the service manual but the instructions for removing the thermal assembly for the 5150 have an additional step of remvoving the display and the palm rest:
http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...al.htm#1084976

Watch out though, I broke that plastic handle while taking it out and as I said the processor was glued to the heat spreader - it would seem the ZIF socket wasn't even holding it.
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Anyone knows if the P4-M in a 5150 can be undervolted ?
post #9 of 12
Just to point out, the 5150 doesn't have a P4-M (Pentium 4-Mobile), it has the full blown desktop version. Thats why it gets so hot. It was designed for the large open chassis of a desktop.
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Similar problem with a 5100 and a P4 2.66. Its was right on the edge, every 6 months it would start to randomly reboot. I would just clean out the fan area and it would be good for another 6 months.

I guess that's why Dell only sells the PentiumM in their notebooks.

Lou
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Originally Posted by MitchellO
Just to point out, the 5150 doesn't have a P4-M (Pentium 4-Mobile), it has the full blown desktop version. Thats why it gets so hot. It was designed for the large open chassis of a desktop.
Oh...
I thought only mobile cpu could be installed in notebooks!

Then, can the desktop P4 be undervolted ?

Edit: I did some research and just to clear things up, I got a Mobile Pentium 4 cpu, as opposed to a Pentium 4-M cpu. Damn Intel processor naming
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Mobile cpus are MUCH better at heat dissapation I would suggest one over the desktop versions since the performance loss is minor.
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