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Choosing: Beauty vs Beast

post #1 of 29
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this post is dedicated to every captive soul who has hard time choosing between 5660(beauty) and 8887(beast)

5660 will be an attacker here(as most of us like it more, and just can't order it because 8887 is more powerfull and it charms us)

ok let's begin, first of all 5660 is beautiful laptop, a state of art, 8887 has more options and is a little bit more powerfull than 5660, with CPU 3.06 GHz and with 128MB Video RAM, BUT!, i looked at the benchmarks at this forum and 2.8ghz 5660 didn't do a lot worser than 8887 it was something like 5660(2.8GHz) - 13000 and 8887(3.06GHz) - 14000, now that's not a big difference, a normal user(using programs not the utilities to measure the CPU Speed) wouldn't even notice the difference. About 128 MB Video, now tell me what can you start/play to eat whole 64 megs of memory?(that's the only difference beetwen this cards).
8887 has more PCMCIA(Personal Computer Memory Card International Association) slots(1 - Type III and 2 - Type II), there are 3 types of PCMCIA cards Type I(3.3mm) is used for memory, isn't 1024MB of RAM already enough in 5660? why do you need it? type III(10.5mm) is used for HDD(usually no more than 2GB) and 5660 has 60Gigs hard + if that's not enought you can get the second HD, Type II(5mm) slot is the most common(if i can say like that) slot and 5660 has 1(i think that's quite enough).
Now, about remote controll, to be real why do you need that? i don't think that's an adventage(i don't mention MP3 player) for choosing 8887 over 5660, + 8887 is really really huge, 5660 is big(a little bigger than dell inspiron) and 8887 is even more bigger, the only thing is that 8887 has is serial port, which is slowly but fading away(hello USB), the new 5660's screen is better.

now i don't say that 8887 is bad, no way don't think that, it's very very good but if you are a normal user and don't take any competitions in benchmarking(and 5660 could compete, very very good) and you are looking for a beautiful and deadly laptop, 5660 is for you, 8887 doesn't beat it that hard that you could notice the difference without the utilities, i mean only 200mhz, i think it's not a big deal, about video if you aren't super-duper 3D artist that counts every second when rendering of the image, 64 is enough
post #2 of 29
The 8887 was the machine for me (I did think seriously about the 5660). Basically I work with 3D and video and needed as much memory, hard disk space and the fastest processor I could get my hands on. Aesthetics didn't come in to it at the end of the day. Personally I don't find the 8887 particularly big or heavy (not compared to my existing desktop PC anyway!!). It 'aint the smallest laptop in the work for sure, but with a full-size Pentium and 3x60gb hard drives inside it I think it packs it all in nicely.

Besides, the 5660 looks like a girls laptop so there!! ;-).


chris
post #3 of 29
Ouch!!! That went straight to the heart man!!!

post #4 of 29
"and 5660 has 60Gigs hard + if that's not enought you can get the second HD"

Please explain how you're going to get another HD w/ the 5660, unless you happen to mean a USB/FireWire one.
post #5 of 29
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Besides, the 5660 looks like a girls laptop so there!! ;-).
LOL
post #6 of 29
This looks like a higher tech (geekier?) version of "my dad can beat up your dad"!

I think the whole question is preference.....if the size of the 8886's screen is important to you (note I didn't just say if size is important to you ) then get the 8886, if the weight of the 8886 is a problem for you (which with mine I don't really notice) then go with the 5660. If you want dual batteries, get the 5660, if you want dual hard drives get the 8886. If you want the wider viewing angles get the 5660, if you want the tv capture card get the 8886, if you want the MP3 player.....get the 5660 and buy an MP3 player! (ok, I couldn't resist that one after all the complaints on the MP3 player).

For me, I'm into video editing and the TV-capture card was a big draw, the bigger screen was the other deciding factor. Most of my friends who are looking for a laptop I'm suggesting the 5660 since they don't really need a tv-card and the screen size isn't as important to them.




By the way, my dad can beat up your dad
post #7 of 29
You were wondering what games can eat up 64MB of video ram. I'm pretty sure UT2003 can do that pretty well. I know in a recent test on desktop cards it ate up 128MB but at very high resolutions and with things such as AA and AF turned on. But for our purposes the M9 would probably choke first before the RAM
post #8 of 29
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Skye-Taltos you want to say that you'll fill up your 60gigs HD(unless you aren't a server on warez P2P network)?
post #9 of 29
No, I think his point was you can't get a second hard drive for the 5660 (not internally, like the 8886/7). I think people have to consider this as a personal preference kinda thing. No one should be convincing other people of which to get... If you want a bunch of features besides raw power, get the 8886/7, if you just want raw power, the 5660 will do quite nicely. WIth the 8886/7, you've got video inputs from both svideo and coaxial... THe 5660 has no video inputs. The screen on the 5660 is nicer, but it's smaller, and both have the same resolution so it's not that big of a difference otherwise. The HT processor won't make a difference now, but when HT is enabled, and software comes out that supports it, then it most certainly will for multitaskers. The extra ram on the video card will make a difference in newer games... but I agree with the conclusion that the core would choke before the ram did (at least on the 128 meg card). Best of luck to anyone looking to buy one of these beasts!
post #10 of 29
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Originally posted by Vortex
Skye-Taltos you want to say that you'll fill up your 60gigs HD(unless you aren't a server on warez P2P network)?
I've never used any P2P software and I filled up 470 Gigabytes on my previous desktop. Things like 3D rendering can occupy such an unbelievable amount of space, that you always want to make sure you get as much hard-disk capacity as you can.

Also, for example, I used to be a Baldur's Gate freak, and I could never "overwrite" my own past save games, cause I loved being able to go back in time. I kept saving and saving and the things accumulated, and pretty soon, with BG + TotSC and BG2 + ToB, I had about 30 gigabytes worth of game stuff. That was just one series.

So in short, it is actually very easy to fill up hard disks, even without piracy of any kind.
post #11 of 29
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Yale2006 maybe i was wrong about this whole thing, damn it i just i don't know what to choose, i passed my exams yesterday and now i'm seriously looking into buying a Sager, and damn i like 5660 but when i saw 8887's power now, i'm in very hard situation, can anyone post a pictures of 8887 compared to a man? or hand(if you are warried about your privacy)

This looks like a higher tech (geekier?) version of "my dad can beat up your dad"!

yes Tyranous that's what i'm exactly trying to find out
post #12 of 29
Another thing is many people are compalining about the
smearing/blurriness with motion on the 8887
post #13 of 29
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Originally posted by indirstr8s
Another thing is many people are compalining about the
smearing/blurriness with motion on the 8887
This hasn't been proven yet, though. We'll have to hear the final word from PCTorque before settling the blur affair. Also, as far as I know the 5660 is not better in this respect, it just has't gotten any attention to it.

Vortex>>Don't worry about it too much, though. It's not like say, screen size, which you are pretty much stuck with forever. In the worst case, you can always add some external space (which I'm also doing), or replace/add an internal harddrive with a bigger one later on (80 GB and/or 7,200 RPM drives should arrive before summer). Like memory, hard disk space is increasing pretty fast, so prices should drop relatively quickly.

Cheers.
post #14 of 29
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well, as i got it, it's individual everyone has their own experience with computers, everyone buys what they like, you can't argue on taste right?
post #15 of 29
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beebster83 sorry didn't see your post(was scrolling too fast to the end post) , i'm not convincing people, don't think that i'm tring to tell them to buy and not to buy the other, i just saw how many people had problems(i'm one of them) choosing beetwin 5660 and 8887, so i wanted to write some kind of review, to tell them know what one has and the other has not and visa versa
post #16 of 29
I'm in the EXACT same position as you, Vortex! 5660 vs 8887.. I'm definately getting the 3.06 w/ HT on my computer either way. I'm leaning toward the 5660 though... just gonna have to wait for it to come out with the 3.06 HT and M10 I hope too...
post #17 of 29
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atbear well i thought about waiting too, but when the M10 and 3.06CPU Will be available for 5660 and that will be in several month(PCTorque, if you are planning to produce 5660s with 3.06 CPU in 1-2 month PLEASE PLEASE let me know, better to wait 2 month) at that time the new CPUs will be available and 3.06 won't be new anymore. I think that 2.8 is quite enough, i don't do any intensive video/3d editing, so...
post #18 of 29
I understand what you mean.. I've talked to Clevo through email and they said the the 3.06 with HT won't be too far off and it will also get the 128MB Graphics.. (in about 4-6 weeks according to Eurocom)... plus I'm waiting for Hyper-Threading more than I'm waiting for the 3.06...
post #19 of 29
Get the beast !Get the beast!!!!
post #20 of 29
5660 dances with the 8887 under the chandelier and then the final rose petal falls.

The 8887 has morphed into a wonderful looking, lovely, thin prince charming!

Only in fairy tales.
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