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post #21 of 73
1/4/06 at 2:08am
So, both i9400 and XPS M170 have a 7800 Ultra which really is a GTX. So the XPS and 9400 have the same video card...
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post #22 of 73
1/4/06 at 2:15am
Yes... and Dell Euro is offering the 9400 with 7800gtx and Dual Core for less than the XPS m170 with Pentium-M and a 7800gtx. I find that odd, anyone else?
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post #23 of 73
1/4/06 at 2:27am
at least someone agrees with me. notice how there is no new model of the m170? thats because the 2.26ghz pentium m is the best cpu for the job right now.
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post #24 of 73
1/4/06 at 2:39am
Drizek, I always got your back. =)

Any bets on which of us will get the 9500 first and laugh at the 9400 the longest? =)~

Kinda looking forward to the chassis mod. Because I'll definately try to stuff a 9500 mobo into my 9300 if they are using the same setup. And judging from the fast availability of parts... I think it's easy to see that the 9400 uses the same mobo design as the 9300.

The 9400 isn't offering a 6800 solution because the damn cores are becoming extinct. Nvidia isn't making anymore of the 6800 series. And since Foxconn didn't come up with a 7800gt solution for Dell, that leaves them with The 7800gtx as the high-end video solution for now. The only thing I find suprising is the inclusion of Intel Integrated Graphics chipsets instead of the crappy ATI x300/x600 chipset. I guess ATI still can't provide enough to meet demand and Dell said take a hike. =)
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post #25 of 73
1/4/06 at 2:47am
well, the new integrated gfx are going to be better, so im assuming that it is going to be performing about the same as the x300. the reviews ive read of the x1300 are all pretty negative, so it is probably better from a cost/weight/battery POV to use slightly underperfoming integrated gfx than crappy dedicated ones.
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post #26 of 73
1/4/06 at 2:53am
Interesting. Does this mean Dell will also offer 7800GTX to 9300?

FYI, since there's no XPS/M170 here in Australia, Dell AU has the Pentium M 780 (2.26GHz) as an option for 9300.
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post #27 of 73
1/4/06 at 2:56am
Well I'm not too sure about the battery life point of view for the Integrated choice. When looking at all of Dell's battery life claims for the 9300/6000 models it appears that they mention the x300 being used for longest battery life, even over the GMA900 offered in the 6000. I've found that sometimes integrated chipsets are not always the most power efficient method.

Good example of that would be my Verizon card (not the one Dell offers) it uses less juice than the Wifi card in the laptop when connected and it's broadcasting alot farther to a cell tower than the wifi is broadcasting to the access point.

But I can see where you're coming from with the x1300 reviews. I agree that they are crap. And it seems like not only can ATI not provide enough product lately to get their cost-to-consumer low enough to compete more... but Nvidia always has something waiting under their wing to throw out there each time ATI tries to take the lead in performance. Nvidia seems to have a larger upper hand right now. ATI really shouldn't have signed on to do the console chips if they were going to have such a huge problem with meeting their bread-n-butter desktop component demand.
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post #28 of 73
1/4/06 at 3:02am
Maximus.... I would venture a guess and say there won't be another XPS model laptop out until there is a significant advance in video hardware available for such a model to be justified. That or the XPS model will be based off of a 19" Samsung or 20" LG display instead a new Foxconn chassis that will still use the same size 9300/XPS2 mobo design to keep production cost down.

The 9400 was expected by many... but I think it would be more of a suprising offering to those in the industry. As the 9400 could've easily been marketed as the next XPS model for now and the 9300 could've been left alone. To offer supposedly "superior hardware" in your 2nd best model is a bad move for Dell. But then again... maybe Dell already did the side-by-side comparison and found the Pentium-M 2.26ghz to be a better gaming choice over the Dual Core solutions. *shrug*

As for Dell offering the 7800gtx in the 9300... I can confidently say No on that one. Instead you should expect the 9300 in Oz to be replaced with the 9400 within the next 6 months. But whether or not Oz will get the 7800gtx in their options is a toss up as it appears Dell does not offer latest offer to your country.
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post #29 of 73
1/4/06 at 3:02am
well, it is still cheaper/lighter to use the integrated gfx. as for battery, its hard to tell what the numbers are for the GMA, but im sure intel worked on idle battery life in order to improve the efficiency of the napa platform.
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post #30 of 73
1/4/06 at 3:23am
Well GMA900 and GMA950 are both the same chipsets from the Sonoma platform... so I don't think they improved the Video in Napa at all. I think they just went for lower max watts per core and a leaner wireless card since wireless is still the biggest battery hog in a laptop.
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post #31 of 73
1/4/06 at 6:53am
so the 7800gtx upgrade for a 9300 is the same as the 7800gtx upgrade for an XPS2 in practicality, and probably in Dell's eyes, so warranty isn't voided right? i think someone here mentioned the sales rep saying it wouldn't void the warranty. at least it means the 7800gtx will stay available until late next year when i might get the upgrade for my 9300, since im not getting a new computer til 2008 or 2009
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post #32 of 73
1/4/06 at 7:04am
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Originally Posted by HamTard
at least it means the 7800gtx will stay available until late next year when i might get the upgrade for my 9300, since im not getting a new computer til 2008 or 2009
No. Nvidia G71 (7800/7900 ultra) is released in Feb. Expect May for notebooks with this in. Its just a faster clocked 7800 gtx with 512mb. Then you have the g80 released in the summer, this will be a LOT better than the g71 and out for notebooks at the same time as merom and is ready for vista (dx10)

There is also ati, but dell wont be using these in high end notebooks.
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post #33 of 73
1/4/06 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by reldavidson
No. Nvidia G71 (7800/7900 ultra) is released in Feb. Expect May for notebooks with this in. Its just a faster clocked 7800 gtx with 512mb. Then you have the g80 released in the summer, this will be a LOT better than the g71 and out for notebooks at the same time as merom and is ready for vista (dx10)

There is also ati, but dell wont be using these in high end notebooks.
well it should stay available until summer, since the 9400 will be sold until merom hits retail in fall or winter. if they upgrade the 9400 and/or XPS M170 to use the 7800gtx 512 or the 7900gtx 512, even better, i'll get one of those for my 9300 instead.
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post #34 of 73
1/4/06 at 11:03am
godamn it lol i just got my 7800gtx and theres going to be a 512mb version just around the corner? how come the 6800 series lasted so long withought an upgrade?

i was sure there would be at LEAST 6 months that this card would be the ruler of them all. I guess as long as i can fit it into my i9300
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post #35 of 73
1/4/06 at 11:07am
So if that's the new "9300", then the new XPS will probably be able to cure cancer and wash your car.

-Doc
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post #36 of 73
1/4/06 at 5:49pm
Actually Doc... wouldn't it be nice to really dream and see the new XPS come with the first laptop 7800GTX SLI config?!?!? hahahahaha (it's actually possible too... too bad it hasn't been done yet)
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post #37 of 73
1/4/06 at 6:00pm
With two of those, it should come with an external heatsink to fry up some eggs and bacon!
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post #38 of 73
1/4/06 at 6:14pm
HAHA hi Jenny... nice to see you chime in. =)

It would be like that new ASUS video card... has it's own external power brick to power the card because it's that damn power hungry. =)
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post #39 of 73
1/4/06 at 7:07pm
this old thread revealed th D810/D610

http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...highlight=d610

had a browse around the FDA site, couldn't see the 9400 there for qualifying

saw the new wireless card though, 4925?
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post #40 of 73
1/4/06 at 7:23pm
I need to make a difficult decision: should I wait for the 9400, which is just around the corner, or just get 9300 when the deal is right?

I'm no fan of Yonah, for it will be replaced by Merom this year anyway, but it's going to be an attractive to have 7800 and an improved wireless option. The 7800 along may worth it, for it's not available from Dell AU as parts.

As some has mentioned that Dell AU may not offer 7800 for the Australian version of 9400, I don't buy it. Because we don't have XPS/M170 here, Dell AU actually boosted the options for the Australian version 9300, so we have 780 as the CPU option and we had all the hard disk options once they came out. In other word, because of the lack of XPS/M170, we are getting superior 9300 than other parts of the world, why would 9400 be different?

Still, damn you Dell for not giving us XPS/M170 and stop fooling us with 9x00.
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