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XPS M140 -- Actually, it turns out it's just worthless

post #1 of 20
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To top off my complaining over the unusable screen, this system crashed (while doing nothing!) today, then blue-screened and reported several bad clusters --- not just cross-linked files or something but actual bad clusters! Then, while chatting with Dell online complaining about it, the K key popped right off the keyboard! (The keys have that cheap feel where sometimes typing quickly lets your fingertip slide underneath a key above it and "catch" a bit -- in this case it caught and snapped off and landed on the floor.)

That was the last straw for me. I called and asked for a return with a full refund. What's funny about Dell's return staff is that they're clearly reading off a "three-ask" style script, like telemarketers (how about a $20 donation? would you believe... $10?) The conversation went pretty much like this, word for word:

Dell: There won't be a restocking fee, but you'll have to pay shipping back to Dell.

John: That doesn't seem fair.

Dell: Okay, we'll pay for shipping back to us, but you'll have to pay for the cost of shipping the laptop to you in the first place.

John: That doesn't seem fair either.

Dell: Okay, we'll pre-pay shipping back to us and reimburse you your full purchase price, plus shipping.

John: Thanks!

At least Dell's customer support is still first rate, if you ask the right questions.

I'll be honest -- I'm a huge Dell fan. I've purchased 8-9 Dells for myself since 1993 and recommend them almost exclusively to friends, family, and clients. As for the XPS M140, however, those bad clusters and the key popping off while in the midst of trying to get a screen replacement was beyond the last straw. Buyer beware: this is the worst laptop I've ever used, and the worst product I've ever seen Dell produce -- and I owned a first generation Dell Digital Jukebox. I'm glad some have had good luck with this machine, but I doubt I'll ever trust Dell with my laptop dollars again.
post #2 of 20
Respectfully. You are just wrong. Maybe you got a lemon. Mine rocks. I love the keyboard and it was one of the deciding factors for me. No light leakage. Sure the viewing angle could be better. Hope you have better luck with your future laptops, but don't agree on the conclusion you have readhed on the M140.
Regards.
post #3 of 20
i agree with you fully reiner. keyboard is amazing. its the generic dell keyboard used in everything. soft to type on makes no noise. Screen is good too. In comparison to the ultrasharp lcds i have on my 9100 and 6000, only bad thing about 630m is the viewing angles. This machine is built SOLID. no creaking, better than 9100 and 6000 for sure.
post #4 of 20
I love mine, I have had it now about a month and for what I got/paid for it, it can't be beat. No issues what so ever.
post #5 of 20
I also have to disagree with the OP. I agree the viewing angle could be better and whites looks sparkly, but mine runs great and fast. My wife's 700m has a much better screen and the viewing angle is superior. I dont get the light leakage unless I view from above, but from straight on the blacks look really good. The whites could be better, but I paid less than $760 shipped w/ tax for a P-M 740 with a DVD burner, 60 GB HDD, bigger battery and trulife display (EPP with 10% off coupon, DPS discount and a $150 coupon for keeping the previous i6000 I purchased and later sold because it was too big.)

And for those who complain about not being able to game on their XPS M140, get real. Did you not realize it came with IG? Gaming on a lappy is just stupid IMHO. I'm not a big gamer, but if i'm going to play something, it will be on a hi-def panel or my 19" desktop. A lappy is for portability. I got this for the size (14" panel is perfect size as well as the keyboard). The 700m keyboard was too small for my liking, although I wish I had the 700m screen.

I of course reinstalled XP and trashed the stupid media direct partition (Cyberlink software just blows). Upgraded to 2 GB RAM and replaced the processor with a P-M 725 pin modded to 2.13 GHz. The larger battery just rocks. I get over 6 hours of freedeom from the wall socket.

Just to review, don't listen to all the miserable people who will find anything to compain about. Not a perfect laptop (could use a better screen) , but for the price (even at the base $949) it's still a bargain.
post #6 of 20
I got a few (many) questions.
I want to buy a laptop and I don't know which one between 6000 and 630m.

for the 630m, is the TrueLife screen better than the normal one? (as good as the 700m? or is it this one your talking about that could be better?). i was going for this one (630) because I don't really play games (except HOMM) and its smaller but if the screen is really bad compared to the i6000 i might go for the latter especially for the viewing angle.

how do you get all thoses discounts? (I'm from Canada) all I found was 3 discount codes (200$, 400$ or 600$ off if it is over 2099$cdn). how do you get the other discounts?

is it cheaper to upgrade later? (ram) or buy the needed amount the first time?
post #7 of 20
Hmm. I wanted to get this laptop but the problems with the screen and the graphics card are making me cringe a little. I don't really want to play anything too extreme on it, just maybe City of Heroes and a little Battlefield 2. If you don't think this is plausible, what's a good replacement for it in the same price range?

Edit: It looks like the i9300 or i6000 have a much better graphics card for around the same price with the current discounts, I just wish Dell didn't dump a crappy card into the M140, in my opinion it's a nicer shell :-p
post #8 of 20
My M140 has had no problems. I love it...not a gaming computer but that's not what it was designed for (I have a desktop for that). People need to realize that and shut up.
post #9 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by XPSM140Guy
My M140 has had no problems. I love it...not a gaming computer but that's not what it was designed for (I have a desktop for that). People need to realize that and shut up.
No need for hostility, there's legitimate reason to be confused about it's gaming capabilities when it's featured on Dell's gaming portion of it's website.

And no one (at least not I'm not) is bashing on it for not being a gaming machine, but it is sort of being advertised as one.
post #10 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpencerGR
No need for hostility, there's legitimate reason to be confused about it's gaming capabilities when it's featured on Dell's gaming portion of it's website.

And no one (at least not I'm not) is bashing on it for not being a gaming machine, but it is sort of being advertised as one.
Sorry, didn't mean to sound hostile. I can understand the confusion considering it's an XPS machine...but the integrated graphics is definitely a tip off.
post #11 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpencerGR
No need for hostility, there's legitimate reason to be confused about it's gaming capabilities when it's featured on Dell's gaming portion of it's website.

And no one (at least not I'm not) is bashing on it for not being a gaming machine, but it is sort of being advertised as one.
I agree with you there. I was excited about the idea of a 14.1" XPS thinking it would come with dedicated graphics and be a powerhouse like the other XPS systems. Since thats what Dell has always pushed the XPS systems to be. With the 140, that is not the case. Its pretty much just your run of the mill Dell with a few minor changes and a different case. Such a letdown to all who expect more from the XPS line.

I am not a big fan of gaming on laptops. Thats what my home machine is for. But I can understand all the confusion that could be caused by thowing this in such a product line.
post #12 of 20
Guys, the XPS line has been around for 7 or 8 years now. I originally bought my first desktop (XPS-T500) from Dell in 1999. It wasn't designated as a gaming machine back then, just a premium line of computers with the latest technology and better support. Same applies today. The M140 is a upgrade to the 630 due to the warranty and support. Is the XPS 400 desktop w/ X300 SE a gaming rig?
post #13 of 20
Why don't they just create a section called "Premium Home & Home Office" or something if the PCs they're marketing there aren't for gaming anyway? I too was pretty surprised when I first saw the XPS M140 being advertised under "Gaming".
post #14 of 20
A friend of mine has a brand new M170 and a key fell off the keyboard, i dont think he snagged but im not sure. Another key is loose too. Makes you wonder what's going on with these laptops.
post #15 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by superflex
Guys, the XPS line has been around for 7 or 8 years now. I originally bought my first desktop (XPS-T500) from Dell in 1999. It wasn't designated as a gaming machine back then, just a premium line of computers with the latest technology and better support. Same applies today. The M140 is a upgrade to the 630 due to the warranty and support. Is the XPS 400 desktop w/ X300 SE a gaming rig?
Hm... I didn't realize there was ANY difference between the M140 and the 630m! (other than that the 630m costs alot less). What do you mean it's an "upgrade"? Or is it just that it comes with a different standard warranty? Thanks for the info! (I never expected to end up buying a Dell but the prices are just irresistable)
post #16 of 20
Didn't mean to be misleading. The 630 and 140 are the same computer, just a different warranty and support network.

But cost is a matter of when and where you buy it from. My XPS came from the EPP division with a $150 concession coupon, a 10% system coupon, a 4% EPP coupon, a 3% DPA coupon and free 2nd day shipping, larger battery, tru brite screen and 60gb drive for $788 w/ tax. Dell SB starts the 630 at $749 on Outrageous Deals once in a while, but then you have to pay for upgrades, tax, shipping etc and you cant use coupons or DPA with those deals.
post #17 of 20
Ah, thanks for the clarification

Although all those acronyms really are confusing me what is EPP?

I just noticed that the best price on the m140/630m is in the Gaming section, followed by the Small Business section, followed by the Home & Home Office section. Why does Dell price it's products so confusingly?

I need to start taking notes on all this stuff - even WITHOUT factoring in the coupons!
post #18 of 20
EPP is Employee Purchase Plan. Your employer must be a member to use this division.
post #19 of 20
All I can say is the XPS M140 sure tarnished the XPS line. I looked at that, another Dell, Inspiron E1705 before deciding on the HP Pavilion dv8210us

Don't get me wrong... I love dell, I've owned at least 10 of them over the years. I've owned every major brand computer notebook, except a HP. Can't say that anymore. I still have my first notebook, a Tandy 600 made back in 85 too.

So yeah, I'm gonna sneak into this Dell forum from time to time...

NOTE: I haven't had time to change the sig yet as I JUST got the HP two days ago...
post #20 of 20
My wife loves her 140 -- I got it for her about a month ago, and it never leaves her side (except for the 2 days it was taken apart to dry after she poured water in it...)

My 1705 shows up in a week or two, I'm even more psyched...

loyd
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