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post #101 of 178
1/11/06 at 11:26pm
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Originally Posted by klas
previous PowerBooks were fanless, I am curious what's up with this one then...
Uh the G4 I have DEFINITLY has a fan. It may not be very loud or kick on that much, but trust me it is there.

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post #102 of 178
1/12/06 at 3:51am
I want to throw my Z71v in the garbage and buy a Macbook. Seriously, OS X + Core Duo + X1600 = I want to cry.
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post #103 of 178
1/12/06 at 3:54am
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Originally Posted by katorga
Actually, the ONLY thing apple can say about their laptops now is that they look better than other laptops. Otherwise you pay premium for OSX capability. Compare for $2499 from acer or 2599 from apple:

Acer 8204
2Ghz Duo
2GB RAM
1680x1050 15.4 widescreen
256MB X1600
120GB SATA
8x DVDRW
camera in lid
DVI out (and vga for projectors)
Carbon fiber 1.6-1" thick 6Lbs

versus

MacBook
1.86Ghz Duo
1GB RAM
1140x900 WS
256MB x1600
100GB SATA
4x DVD
Camera
DVI out
metal 1" thick 5.6lbs

Apples already over priced and underspec'd and the PC makers have already "speed bumped" Apple.
great, the "diss macs without thinking" has already begun...er, continued...

personally i couldn't pull up any prices for the acer, but their top end 8xxx systems typically go for around $2299-2499, w/ the low end usually being maybe $1999. how are they out-selling apple again given the lighter weight and smaller size of the MacBook?

it's funny how anyone who gives a sh!t about mobility in a notebook, or has a clue about the various brackets of notebooks, knows u pay a price for less weight and thinner form factor of the machine yet this sort of stuff gets spit out the second a "new and improved" mac comes out. give me a break. u'd look at form factor and price within PC brands (sony, dell, toshiba, samsung all have their pricey "under-powered" thin laptops) but u don't even bother to account for that in a Mac? lame. give credit where credit is due. that's one sweet ass system for a TRUE 1" notebook w/ a 15" screen. now if someone rolls out the exact same specs in a nearly identical form factor, then you BEGIN to have an argument. until then, keep looking for excuses to undercut a mac.

btw, the 9.5mm optical drives (currently 4x) are used in windows systems as well, perhaps u should point them out since you're "just comparing specs". it's also pretty clear that wedge shaped notebooks enable makers to claim a thinner form factor than they actually have. again throw the same equipment in a truly 1" acer and see how it pans out for specs and price.
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post #104 of 178
1/12/06 at 4:03am
i think this is the real competition from the pc world to the apple. it costs the same($2000) but the specs are a little higher across the board. of course, this has still not been updated to core duo, but i think they will just add a 1.8ghz DC and replace the x700 with the x1600. the only downside i see with this one is the non-widescreen lcd(although the glossyness makes up for that)
http://geared2play.com/store/product...emble/v6va.htm

Anyway, i would be interested to hear what you think makes hte macbook better than a core duo version of the v6va
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post #105 of 178
1/12/06 at 5:57am
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Originally Posted by klas
previous PowerBooks were fanless, I am curious what's up with this one then...
On the Powerbook, the fans are on the left and right sides, near the front of the computer. The grills wrap under the chassis.

The MacBook moved the fans to the back of the computer.
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post #106 of 178
1/12/06 at 7:20am
Is the G4 or G5 64bit??? This intel core duo (yonah) is a 32 bit processor, right?
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post #107 of 178
1/12/06 at 10:24am
The G5 is 64-bit, I believe the G4 is 32-bit
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post #108 of 178
1/12/06 at 10:54am
Gonzo is right

G4=32 Bit
G5=64 Bit

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post #109 of 178
1/12/06 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by klas
One thing I am curious and I am sold. Can you run Windows on it?
they said Win XP won't run, but Vista will!
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post #110 of 178
1/12/06 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by triadone
btw, the 9.5mm optical drives (currently 4x) are used in windows systems as well, perhaps u should point them out since you're "just comparing specs". it's also pretty clear that wedge shaped notebooks enable makers to claim a thinner form factor than they actually have. again throw the same equipment in a truly 1" acer and see how it pans out for specs and price.
I'm pretty sure I don't agree with the use of ultra-slim drives. I'd be more than willing to live with a computer that's a tenth of an inch bigger if it means better features. Than again Apple has always been willing to trade functionality for coolness.
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post #111 of 178
1/12/06 at 2:05pm
Well it is a laptop, a 15.4" inch laptop which I think is designed as a mobile computer. If it was a 17" desktop replacement laptop then a better, bigger, faster drive would be logical to have.
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post #112 of 178
1/12/06 at 4:23pm
Yeah, also the one inch is a big selling point, to my knowledge its the only notebook on the market that can meet that size and have this performance. Thats something you gotta exploit.
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post #113 of 178
1/12/06 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by TeeJayDM
When is WWDC?
Late June.
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post #114 of 178
1/12/06 at 7:22pm
again, teh v6va above is the same dimensions, if not smaller. it just hasnt been updated to core duo yet, which is understandable cause asus usually has a product in stock when they announce it.
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post #115 of 178
1/12/06 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by benroethig
I'm pretty sure I don't agree with the use of ultra-slim drives. I'd be more than willing to live with a computer that's a tenth of an inch bigger if it means better features. Than again Apple has always been willing to trade functionality for coolness.
i don't disagree. my main point was that for ANY brand, tradeoffs occur when the form factor is pushed to the limit at the same time that prices go up for pushing said limit. and again, this truth in notebooks just happens to go unmentioned in the "analysis" provided.
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post #116 of 178
1/12/06 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by drizek
again, teh v6va above is the same dimensions, if not smaller. it just hasnt been updated to core duo yet, which is understandable cause asus usually has a product in stock when they announce it.
OMG, dell user in apple forum - now i can understand his BS responds
Go away my lord - not a place for u
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post #117 of 178
1/12/06 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by benroethig
Late June.
hmm not far Im guessing maybe (around or before) fall before they release merom, if only yonah was 64 bit . Im a little bit concerned about the 10.5 leopard and the future programs.

GO Merom

I hope Mr Jobs will OK Merom in the future MacBook.
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post #118 of 178
1/12/06 at 8:25pm
Just a general comment and question. Does anyone know Apple is looking to make a Merom MacBook in the near future? It is logical to think that they will try and put one out, but in Apple fashion they usually take a long time to update their notebooks so that they can get the design right. Also, is it true that the new MacBooks can triple boot with Tiger/Vista/Linux?

I am currently loving my Ferrari, but if Apple makes a notebook that can run Vista and Tiger then I will definately get me one!
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post #119 of 178
1/12/06 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by MarekS
OMG, dell user in apple forum - now i can understand his BS responds
Go away my lord - not a place for u
How is it bs? the v6va has the same dimensions as the macbook...
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post #120 of 178
1/12/06 at 8:58pm
ok, here you go.

asus- 13 x 10.7 x 1.18
appl- 14.1 x 9.6 x 1.0

the asus is 5.2 pounds and hte macbook is 5.4 pounds.
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