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post #121 of 178
I think the big point about the new MacBook is the fact that it is a 15.4" widescreen, 256MB of video RAM, 1" thin (not 1.2" thin like the v6v), dual core, and oh yeah, it is a Mac. The problem with the Asus is that fact that the video and processing power are not up to par with the new MacBook, which is to be expected because the v6v is an old model. However, I will be quite impressed with the new MacBook if it is able to handle all the power and still run fairly cool with decent battery life (near 4 hours is decent for a dual core with those specs). Just my .02!
post #122 of 178
Drizek, If you read my last post youll notice I was talking about the one inch thickness, acording to your mesurements, the asus still isnt thinner, (all I talked about).

If that was just for MarekS then you can just ignore this post.
post #123 of 178
well actually, it is 1" thick towards the front and it becomes 1.16" at the back(the first site i looked at said 1", the second said 1.16", and the third site said it is slanted). if you really think this .16" on a part of the laptop is a huge differnce then...
post #124 of 178
I dont think its a huge diference, but for marketing being able to say you have the thinest laptop offering that kind of performance is a bid deal.

That could maybe be one of the reasons they put in a superslim drive.
post #125 of 178
apple metod- they design a laptop that is 1" thick.
asus method- they design a laptop, and then realize it is 1" thick.

did you notice how the length and width of the macbook have decimals, yet the height is exactly 1" thick? just marketing crap that means nothing.
post #126 of 178
It actually means it is 1" thick....
post #127 of 178
any info on the lcd's response time yet?
post #128 of 178
Hmm, lets think about this for a moment. First off, Apple sets off to design a 15.4" widescreen notebook (or is it 15.2", I think I remember the Powerbooks having a 15.2" screen). So they figure out what the depth and the width are going to be, but wait, Apple has a goal set out for its new notebook....they want it to be 1" thin. This is what a lot of laptop companies set out to do, but they get to designing the laptop and realize that to make the thing 1" thin it will cost them probably 200 - 300% more money to make each lappy.

So they do the best they can and get the "next fastest thing" out on the market. Apple on the other hand has a goal and they spend time and money making sure that they meet their goal. They are not really worried about cost because they know that they have a loyal following and they want to make the best product they can so that they can maintain their little share of the market. So is it really marketing, yes; but only because that is what Apple customers have come to expect out of Apple and the company does not want to disappoint (and they want to be that much better than the other guys of course).

Why do I say this? Well, if you look at what Apple did with the iPod Nano then you would understand. They discontinued the best selling and most successful mp3 player ever made because it was as good as it could be and they replaced it with the Nano, which improved on many of the mini's shortcomings.

Apple does a lot of things for marketing, but they are mostly driven by the fact that their products are different, well made, reliable, and cutting-edge for the most part.

Thank you very much I'll be here all week !
post #129 of 178
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Originally Posted by xdcc
any info on the lcd's response time yet?
all lcds have 25ms response. the only one that has less than that AFAIK is the upcoming dell 20" xps.
post #130 of 178
Uh you referrin to notebook LCDs? I know several Desktop LCDs with quicker response times.

Seablade
post #131 of 178
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Originally Posted by drizek
all lcds have 25ms response. the only one that has less than that AFAIK is the upcoming dell 20" xps.
???? If i were u i would do more reaserch on google .... there are laptops with 12ms response time By the way, why are we comparing apple to some asus with 15,1' and some old specs???? wierd

P.S.
I dont care how thin and super sli notebook will be realased with windows becouse mac has Final Cut Pro!!!!!! yeah baby!!!!!
post #132 of 178
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Originally Posted by runninkyle17
Just a general comment and question. Does anyone know Apple is looking to make a Merom MacBook in the near future? It is logical to think that they will try and put one out, but in Apple fashion they usually take a long time to update their notebooks so that they can get the design right. Also, is it true that the new MacBooks can triple boot with Tiger/Vista/Linux?

I am currently loving my Ferrari, but if Apple makes a notebook that can run Vista and Tiger then I will definately get me one!

All Macs can run Linux. The new Intel based Macs, however, can run X86 Linux (as opposed to PPC Linux) and Vista.
post #133 of 178
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by drizek
How is it bs? the v6va has the same dimensions as the macbook...
does it? the link which came up had a lappy w/ a 4:3 screen... the usual comparison amongst the asus machines and the PBs is the W2V.
post #134 of 178
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Originally Posted by TeeJayDM
hmm not far Im guessing maybe (around or before) fall before they release merom, if only yonah was 64 bit . Im a little bit concerned about the 10.5 leopard and the future programs.

GO Merom

I hope Mr Jobs will OK Merom in the future MacBook.
64-bit only matters if you're using over 4gb of RAM.
post #135 of 178
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Originally Posted by benroethig
64-bit only matters if you're using over 4gb of RAM.

Well Im more concerned about the article I read(forgot where I read it). Apple was saying 64 bit is this and that. The future of Apple... OSX10.5 is a 64 bit OS with (Im guessing) a patch that will work for a 32 but proc.
post #136 of 178
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Originally Posted by benroethig
64-bit only matters if you're using over 4gb of RAM.
Or you run a 64 Bit OS. Like myself. Along with 64 bit drivers and software.

Seablade
post #137 of 178
I do remember reading somewhere that OSX 10.5 is going to be 64-bit, but I am not sure when it is supposed to be released. So in that case, having a 64-bit processor will benefit you quite a bit.

I am sure that Apple will release 10.5 when the are ready to put out the new 64-bit MacBooks. That is the way they usually do their marketing anyway so that they do not have to have delayed releases and people waiting on the newest thing.
post #138 of 178
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Originally Posted by triadone
does it? the link which came up had a lappy w/ a 4:3 screen... the usual comparison amongst the asus machines and the PBs is the W2V.
i mentioned that it wasnt widescreen, but the screen size is still the same. the apple is 1.1" wider, and the asus is 1.1" deeper, and a tiny bit thicker towards the back. overall though, i would say they are close enough to have the "same" dimensions. the z70Va is 15.4" and quite a bit cheaper, but it is also a bit heavier/thicker than the powerbook. i personally would never pick a v6va over a z70va, but thats just me.
post #139 of 178
Booting XP - The new MacBooks don't use the same booting technique as a regular PC so booting XP might only be possible through installing a bootloader....

Many of you guys say that you prefer Windows for gaming ... You probably do so because there aren't as many new games available for OSX as there are for Win.

That's because the whole game would had have been rewritten in order for it to run on a PowerPC machine, but now that Macs run on Intel hardware only a minor

part of the games (or whatever software) will have to be designer for Macs (like drivers and stuff).

Windows vs OSX

You think Microsoft sees the whole Apple PCs running on Inter as an opportunity to put OSX out of business ..??.... HEH ... I think they should be worried

... the only reason for running something on Win instead of on OSX is if it only runs on Windows (don't get me as an OSX fan cause I never even saw it but

that's why I tun windows and not Linux) .... Think about it... Standardization doesn't only mean production price drop, it also means that more and more

software that only run on Windows will now run on OSX too (games, 3D apps and maybe developing software)... My prediction is that more of us using Windows

will switch ..... So the question is: Will OSX run on a regular old PC (like non Yonah and maybe AMD ... 64 bit etc).
Oh... Almost forgot ... On the other hand I don't think that Apple will let it be possible for windows to run on their machines because they sell OSX every

time they sell a MacBook and people didn't have a choice until now.... (PPC Linux but they don't have a real lawer) If Windows can be installed on MacBooks,

Apple can be sued for making the buyers take OSX over Windows (and even if that's for their own good it's not right... Microsoft got sued for the same reason

some time back).

Apple MacBook vs other Notebooks - designwise

I just love the fact that MacBooks are 1" allover the notebook .. I'm thinkins how slim the main (keyboard) part is when it is opened..... The fact that

other laptops are designed to be slimmer at the users end fatter at the display's is only important for thicker machines .....

I love the color .... I love the fact that the display goes a little to the back (like a real notebook if you think about it) when you open it..

I love the little things like: the magnet-thing charger .. the fact that the fans are at the back .... the fact that there's no tray for the optical display

.... All of these really show me as a potential buyer that Apple thought this through verry well.....

Backlit keyboard .... No other Notebook comes even close ... I'm waiting for examples on this one ....

OMG 256 MB video RAM.... (hoping for a NVidia card in the future) but OMG 256MB.... On a notebook that's 1" thick....


Many of you say that it's just another notebook, and the difference is that this one runs OSX (we're waiting for them to know for sure) and it's from Apple.

You actually post links of Sharps and Acers that you think are better .... Tell me this who do you trust more Sharp, Acer or Apple ??? Windows or OSX... I

never used OSX so I don't have an opinion on that one but just the fact that they keep selling the old powerbook make me trust Apple a little .......

oh and 2999$ gets you a 1.6 Yonah, 2GB Ram, 100GB SATA 7200 rpm HDD, 256MB video ram, 4X DVD burner (which is fine by me) in a 15.4" wide, 1" thick notebook...

Just my 2 cents ..... Waiting for replies .....
post #140 of 178
apple can get sued for selling them only apple that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! Dell only sells intel they cant get sued for not selling AMD. Its a free country we do what we want.
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