Holy Sh!t!!! MacBook Pro!!! iSight included!!! - Page 9

um no. MS got sued bc they integrated IE into the OS and essentially removed user choice to have or not have it. the same could be said of apple if they made it so that u couldn't remove the iLife suit from the OS, basically making it so competitors wouldn't really have a shot. instead it is bundled w/ the OS, but to remove it u just dump it in the trash. that and it isn't something that is only available w/ the OS, u can buy it separately in your local apple, compusa, etc.

i will say however that i hope software like iWeb will be able to post created content to generic 3rd party servers as well as .mac ones. that would be a legitimate example i believe, of locking ppl into one solution and not allowing others to be viable.

i don't think that u had argued the following but others have and i wanted to address it. it seems interesting that people don't seem to think that .16 inches or whatever doesn't matter. from a user standpoint it probably doesn't matter that much, except for ppl who really want the cutting edge. the fact is however, at an engineering level, meauring increments of millimeters and less are used to design and construct the computer at hand. it DOES matter and every square and cubed inch are taken into consideration. essentially, whether it's apple or not, the more u push the limits of getting as much as u can into a system the more $ it requires for R&D. to say that there is no difference between a system that is 1.0" vs. 1.1 or 1.2 (etc) would be a lie. for those of us in the US the measure of inches is comfortable, we are used to it and even so most companies use units of 10 to describe a unit of measure typically indciated by unite of 4ths, 8ths, 16ths, etc. from a metric standpoint however simply converting to mm, means u r dealing w/ 22 units to = one inch. basically, i'll reiterate... 1/10 of an inch is not an insubstantial measure in the engineering world. as an example, 2/10 is actually just shy of a quarter inch. when u convert the numbers to what we are used to, at least to me, the differences become more substantial. now if for instance a notebook was only 1mm thicker than another, the engineering differences are less substantial. is the horse dead yet?

no, but intel could get sued if in fact it were found out they are playing dirty to keep dell in their pocket.

true, but my guess is that apple didn't see the move to a 32 bit intel chip for it's consumer level stuff that big of a deal. seeing as how the iBooks, PBs, and iMacs, were all running on the 32bit G4 rolling over to a 32bit intel chip for a brief period wasn't seen as a step backward. it's likely that the iMac was switched bc it's a consumer level product and the performance of the Yonahs merited it. also, the only time 64 bit OSes would really benefit in performance is in extremely dense memory utilization. i.e.-workstations and servers w/ over 4GB of memory to access.

lol, u have links for a competing notebook w/ core duo w/ at least 1.67Ghz, x1600 128MB GPU, 80GB 5400rpm drive, gigabit ethernet, powered firewire, integrated webcam w/ 640x480 CCD sensor, illuminated KB w/ ambient light sensor, 1" thick, and @ 5.6lbs, for less than $1845 US? i'm all for seeing alternatives, especially if OS X could be "installed" on it.

course being in canada u can only qualify for academic pricing from apple and hence have to pay taxes so that does need to be considered.

yeh, looks a bit thick. does the webcam do the 1280x1024 in video? my logitech takes still shots @ 1.3MP but does video @ 640x480.