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post #21 of 42
1/13/06 at 3:07pm
I would strongly disagree that Pay distros are painless... In fact if everything doesnt work out of the box they are MUCH MORE painful to get working.

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post #22 of 42
1/13/06 at 5:38pm
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post #23 of 42
1/13/06 at 6:32pm
can't stand paid distros.

gave Linspire a spin...slow...pain to get working right, won't even install on my desktop!

Xandros --- worst excuse for a Debian distro i've ever used!
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post #24 of 42
1/14/06 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by abf
can't stand paid distros.

gave Linspire a spin...slow...pain to get working right, won't even install on my desktop!

Xandros --- worst excuse for a Debian distro i've ever used!
thats is what I think of Ubuntu !

anyway I think I was taken out of context , I feel that some pay distro's are more refined a new user leaving windows will most likey be perplexed just downloading an iso let alone compiling drivers! Most pay distros I have tried work to a certain extent. Yes they break easily but to get up and running as a noob not knowing the art of cli etc. can be easier. In no way shape or form did I mean to imply they are the answer to everyones installations. Just my humble opinion on what people should try and not stick with an almost ok distro or give up altogether.
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post #25 of 42
1/14/06 at 1:43am
From my numerous tests.

Best Gnome Debian distro - Ubuntu
Best KDE Debian distro - Kanotix
Best KDE RPM live cd - PCLinuxOS
Best KDE install distro - Onebase
Best Bloatware distro - Mandrake

in the dog house we have: xandros, SUSE, Linspire, Fedora, Vector, VidaLinuxOS
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post #26 of 42
1/15/06 at 2:46am
I don't have too much to add, except that I installed Red Hat about five years ago and hated it with a passion.

I installed Ubuntu two weeks ago and loved it so much I keep a dual boot now, and only ever load Windows to play a game or two. I'm a convert.

I even tried to install the Xfce version on a little 475Mhz I keep in a corner, playing the BBC over the Internet, but my wireless card is incompatible. No loss there.
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post #27 of 42
1/15/06 at 3:14am
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Originally Posted by mohapi
but my wireless card is incompatible. No loss there.
try ndiswrapper
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post #28 of 42
1/15/06 at 3:27am
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Originally Posted by abf
try ndiswrapper
I did. And ndisgtk, and about five or six different drivers, tweaked all the network settings and kept on it for a week with the help of the geniuses on the Ubuntu forums. Long and short was, my version had the Marvell (?) chipset and just didn't want to work under Linux.

Like I said, the only thing that machine does is play BBC off the Internet, so I could care less if I do that under WinXP or Ubuntu. I would rather it was Xubuntu, but hey, I'm flexible.
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post #29 of 42
1/15/06 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by mohapi
my version had the Marvell (?) chipset and just didn't want to work under Linux.
Ouch. One thing you don't do is get Marvell based networking equipment with an expectation of it working properly in Linux.
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post #30 of 42
1/15/06 at 7:10pm
I know as soon as I say this someone will holler at me, but I basically started with Slackware, and think it's a great distro to learn on. It's worked well for me out of the box, and requires you to do a LOT of editing of .conf files to get everything set up like you'll want, so you get forced to actually learn something as you go. It's only a good choice for someone who is committed to rolling up his sleeves and trying to learn though, to anyone else it will be frustrating, and will be your new best friend very quickly!

just $0.02 from linux newb. (the user title is to identify the avatar, not represent my skillz)
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post #31 of 42
1/16/06 at 1:33am
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Originally Posted by drlouis
I know as soon as I say this someone will holler at me, but I basically started with Slackware, and think it's a great distro to learn on. It's worked well for me out of the box, and requires you to do a LOT of editing of .conf files to get everything set up like you'll want, so you get forced to actually learn something as you go. It's only a good choice for someone who is committed to rolling up his sleeves and trying to learn though, to anyone else it will be frustrating, and will be your new best friend very quickly!

just $0.02 from linux newb. (the user title is to identify the avatar, not represent my skillz)
I got started with Slackware just like Dr. Louis describes (did I say that right?) and, having started in late 1996, I've experienced all kinds of various Linux distros over the years and, silly me, I go back to Slackware every time.

It's not that the other distros are "bad" or anything like that, most are really quite good. The difference is when you take a Slack install and build it to what _YOU_ want it to be, then everything else just feels a bit hollow. I suspect the Gentoo and LFS folks can agree with that sentiment.

My machines start out with a Slackware install, but within a short amount of time and effort, they are _my_ Linux, not someone else's definition of what I might want or need. Slackware provides a quick foundation upon which I build what I want my machine to do and be.

Hope this helps.
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post #32 of 42
1/16/06 at 1:46am
thanks mars, ive never used slack before but i think i might try it out now.
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post #33 of 42
1/16/06 at 2:53am
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Originally Posted by MarsPoet
I got started with Slackware just like Dr. Louis describes (did I say that right?) and, having started in late 1996, I've experienced all kinds of various Linux distros over the years and, silly me, I go back to Slackware every time.

It's not that the other distros are "bad" or anything like that, most are really quite good. The difference is when you take a Slack install and build it to what _YOU_ want it to be, then everything else just feels a bit hollow. I suspect the Gentoo and LFS folks can agree with that sentiment.

My machines start out with a Slackware install, but within a short amount of time and effort, they are _my_ Linux, not someone else's definition of what I might want or need. Slackware provides a quick foundation upon which I build what I want my machine to do and be.

Hope this helps.
yup, you said it right. and you described exactly how I feel about it.

and you mentioned the two other distros I keep meaning to try.
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post #34 of 42
1/16/06 at 3:16am
eww...slack. somehow that distro does not play nice with me, and so i don't play nice with it
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post #35 of 42
1/16/06 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by mmarkin
Ouch. One thing you don't do is get Marvell based networking equipment with an expectation of it working properly in Linux.
Yup. That's what I learned. But I bought it quite a while ago, before I ever planned to use Linux. And like I said, it's not like my old lappy does anything critical. So the fact that it only works under Windows has me ... nonplussed.
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post #36 of 42
1/16/06 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by MarsPoet
It's not that the other distros are "bad" or anything like that, most are really quite good. The difference is when you take a Slack install and build it to what _YOU_ want it to be, then everything else just feels a bit hollow. I suspect the Gentoo and LFS folks can agree with that sentiment.

My machines start out with a Slackware install, but within a short amount of time and effort, they are _my_ Linux, not someone else's definition of what I might want or need. Slackware provides a quick foundation upon which I build what I want my machine to do and be.
EXACTLY. Music to my ears.
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post #37 of 42
1/16/06 at 10:55pm
Heh I dont think LFS counts as a distro technically

It DOES however count as masochism

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post #38 of 42
1/18/06 at 1:34am
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Originally Posted by abf
From my numerous tests.

Best Gnome Debian distro - Ubuntu
Best KDE Debian distro - Kanotix
Best KDE RPM live cd - PCLinuxOS
Best KDE install distro - Onebase
Best Bloatware distro - Mandrake

in the dog house we have: xandros, SUSE, Linspire, Fedora, Vector, VidaLinuxOS

what is debian and bloatware? i know gnome and KDE, but are you stating that different distros run kde or gnome better?
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post #39 of 42
1/18/06 at 1:39am
No he is saying the best distro that runs gnome for its desktop by default is Ubuntu.

Debian is out of any debian based distro.

Essentially it is requirements for the category he put them in.

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post #40 of 42
1/18/06 at 1:40am
But yes different distros CAN run Gnome or KDE better in theory, see Gentoo

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