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post #21 of 66
Considering that both panels listed are WSXGA+ instead of the higher resolution WUXGA, that will turn many off right away.

The same situation occurred for many that chose 15.4" WUXGA panels over 17" panels that only came in WXGA and WSXGA+ for a considerable amount of time before a 17" WUXGA panel was ever offered (besides Sony).
post #22 of 66
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Originally Posted by TwilightVampire
Does anyone else think that power notebooks are getting out of hand?

No
post #23 of 66
i would bet that when run on battery the second gpu turns off. That being said i would love to get my hands on one as a programer. but will it be avalible with a dual core turion when they come out?
post #24 of 66
It wasn't ROCK that anounced it, it was AJP?
I would buy one.
post #25 of 66
NDA busters?
post #26 of 66
For most people, even most power gamers, that defeats the purpose of owning a laptop, lol!

No offence meant to anyone.
post #27 of 66
I don't think that battery life will be that big a problem. As said before, it probaly turns off one of the gpus durring battery power. Also, it may underclock the cards to run more stably and efficently durring battery power, like how it does with my laptop. Running on battery, it immediately lowers the clocks to about 100 core and 120 mem to save power. If you even tried to run it with normal clocks durring battery power, artifacts would appear making it hard to work. Plus, if your gaming and want the most graphic intense visuals, why would you be running on battery power in the first place?
post #28 of 66
I know that but the systems sheer size seems like a problem too.
post #29 of 66
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Originally Posted by sonicwind
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I wonder if it is sad that I actually figured out what that meant as soon as I saw it.
post #30 of 66
Honestly, where are you going to use a 19" laptop on battery power? It is not like it convenient to carry it around with you, or on a plane. It is a LAN gaming or portable workstation type of device, so of course you are going to mainly use it on AC power. The battery is basically just a UPS incase the power goes out or for emergency real quick use. I can see a market for something like this (not for me personally) but really, to think you will be using it on battery power is only kidding yourself. Maybe in the future with LED backlit LCD's, fuelcell batteries, solid state HD's and Holographic "cd's" that dont spin will you use it on battery power.
post #31 of 66
the 19 inch monitor is enough to make a battery obsolete. Much less the power draw of other components

I agree with the guy who said to leave out the battery. Save on weight and spacwe. Perhaps allowing room for better cooling solution.

Maybe a stand alone battery solution...
post #32 of 66
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Originally Posted by Michael2575
the 19 inch monitor is enough to make a battery obsolete. .
Umm, no. It's built-in UPS. And also allow move without turning it off in sleep mode, or in active from room to room.
On unrelated note picture of 20" Dell:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2715
post #33 of 66
I agree I get alot of power cuts so my battery is basically a UPS anyhow?
post #34 of 66
That's basically the way I saw it w/ my 8790- battery life w/ the P4 3.4ghz + 17" screen was almost non-existant. People that really need battery life wouldn't be buying a 19" laptop, I don't believe.
post #35 of 66
maybe with a 19" form factor they could include a second battery? maybe even a second 9 cell battery. that would give it a decent battery life if the second gpu is indeed turned off when running on battery... btw does anybody know a site thats selling / allowing preorders?
post #36 of 66

Here is the CACHED article

Alright,

I just read the article and I will tell you this, it's impressive but I do not think it will be worth the cost.

From what the article says, http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...38+m590k&hl=en, the M590K (Which is obviously and clearly a Clevo) will have (2) 7800 Go's, NOT (2) 7800 Go GTX's, there is a big difference here. Yes it's going to be faster than a 7800 Go GTX single GPU equipped notebook, but not that much faster and I don't think it will be worth the cost. The reason the 7800 Go is being choosed is no doubt so power does not become an issue with the unit, a logical decision. Putting the GTX in this unit would be challenging from a power and thermal dynamics standpoint and would be quite expensive... It may happen though.

I say buy a 5720-V with a single 7800 Go GTX (Big single turbo) versus this laptop with bi-7800 Go's (Two small unsequential twin turbos). This lappy will be faster then the 7800 Go GTX as mentioned, however, I just honestly can't see the cost to benefit. Yes you can play at higher resolutions, but I guarantee this laptop WILL NOT be as fast as some people think it's going to be.

It's more of a "Look what I got" system then anything else...

PS, Power will not be an issue with this unit, a power requirement assessment is done in the engineering phase and this unit will have a proportional power supply. Battery power will be (2) batterys or one 12+ cell or the like. Again, this system will be fast and will be nice, but I won't sell my 5720-V to buy one, not worth it.

Now put (2) GTX's in this thing and I am buying it, no questions asked. That would be insane...
post #37 of 66
M2 Turion would be a great match for it. One has to wonder if they have a Nvidia mobile chipset or not though. Not sure what else would do SLI...

Heavy, yeah a bit. Battery power? Who cares, if you need more battery power buy spare batteries. If you don't, don't! Could we finally be seeing desktop grade screens though? 16ms? 12ms? The 25ms of current laptops is pathetic given how long in the tooth that speed is.

One of the gpu's could shut down for mobile use. And of course dual core wouldn't hurt but would draw yet more power and need cooling.

Makes a nice predecessor machine for Yamato or Merom that's for sure

Now we need 7900 Go SLI.
post #38 of 66
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Originally Posted by Anemone
M2 Turion would be a great match for it. One has to wonder if they have a Nvidia mobile chipset or not though. Not sure what else would do SLI...
THe newer nvidia mobile chips are SLI compatible.
post #39 of 66
Man, how much would a thing like that weight?
post #40 of 66
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Codename_47
Alright,

I just read the article and I will tell you this, it's impressive but I do not think it will be worth the cost.

From what the article says, http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...38+m590k&hl=en, the M590K (Which is obviously and clearly a Clevo) will have (2) 7800 Go's, NOT (2) 7800 Go GTX's, there is a big difference here. Yes it's going to be faster than a 7800 Go GTX single GPU equipped notebook, but not that much faster and I don't think it will be worth the cost. The reason the 7800 Go is being choosed is no doubt so power does not become an issue with the unit, a logical decision. Putting the GTX in this unit would be challenging from a power and thermal dynamics standpoint and would be quite expensive... It may happen though.

I say buy a 5720-V with a single 7800 Go GTX (Big single turbo) versus this laptop with bi-7800 Go's (Two small unsequential twin turbos). This lappy will be faster then the 7800 Go GTX as mentioned, however, I just honestly can't see the cost to benefit. Yes you can play at higher resolutions, but I guarantee this laptop WILL NOT be as fast as some people think it's going to be.

It's more of a "Look what I got" system then anything else...

PS, Power will not be an issue with this unit, a power requirement assessment is done in the engineering phase and this unit will have a proportional power supply. Battery power will be (2) batterys or one 12+ cell or the like. Again, this system will be fast and will be nice, but I won't sell my 5720-V to buy one, not worth it.

Now put (2) GTX's in this thing and I am buying it, no questions asked. That would be insane...
When I first posted this thread I didn't realise that a non-GTX version of the Go 7800 existed, now I do. The article certainly doesn't specify the GTX version and I agree it probably makes sense from a power draw point of view to use the non-GTX version, in spite of it being quite a bit slower.

Guess we'll have to wait and see though, they may use the GTX version but there's a physical limit to how much power you can draw from any kind of battery configured device and notebooks like the Sager 9890/9750 are already pushing the envelope.

All of that said, with the release of 20.1" notebook LCDs and Dell already unveiling a prototype of a notebook/all-in-one hybrid PC using this display - perhaps there really is a market for these devices that's about to broaden even further.
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