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Can a new Intel Duo processor work in a z71v?

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I checked the tech specs for the regular Pentium M vs the new Duo processors. Unless there was a typo, both documents said 478 for pin-style connectors, and 479 for ball-grid style connections.

I would think if Intel didn't want the processor to be at all compatible with the 915PM chipset, they would have changed the number of pins to make the processor physically incompatible. Now, I suppose they could have changed the arrangement of the pins to make it physically imcompatible.... but what do you guys think about all this? I noticed the bus speed is higher, and I think some additional technology was put into the new chipset to handle this - but you never know....
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When the Z71v first was announced, Asus claimed that it would support Yonah (Core Duo), but they quickly edited to show that it actually would not support the new architecture. Sorry, but it's a no go.
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When the Z71v first was announced, Asus claimed that it would support Yonah (Core Duo),
I saw that too. I believe it will not offer support for it unless intel marketing are brainless and dont capitalize on selling their chipsets with the cpu. If you look in the past. Most of the time with desktops when a new chipset comes out it has downward support for older cpu's in desktops however not so with laptops. I believe the reasoning here is that pc market profits are made through upgrades where in laptops they are made through bundling. intel knows the average lifespan of a hi end laptop is is less then 2 years then it becomes a hand me down. Hand me downs will not be upgraded. The hander down will have to get a new lappy. if they allow users to just pop in a cpu then it prolongs the life of the lappy to 3 years lets say. Basically its not good for profit but who knows maybee i am wrong. Btw last generation of 855 chipsets at first also stated that futire upgrade are possible. That never came to fruition as we all know now. it seems to me that manufacturers and intel have alot of money at stake in keeping the laptop market as it is now not allowing it to become like the pc market now a days, i bet they will keep it this way for a long time to come....Aside from that. if they allow the next gen of cpu's to go into older laptops that would suck for the resellers big time. The only people to benefit from downward compatibility of next gen of mobile cpu's are end users. And we all know what that means especially with intel being the mobile giant by far with nobody to challenge them.....;,
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I truely believe Intel F* us on that one. They launch Sonoma and in less than 1 year away they launch Dual Core....

I am going back to AMD once I start building a new desktop.
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Originally Posted by smilepak
I truely believe Intel F* us on that one. They launch Sonoma and in less than 1 year away they launch Dual Core....

I am going back to AMD once I start building a new desktop.

AGREE!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by smilepak
I truely believe Intel F* us on that one. They launch Sonoma and in less than 1 year away they launch Dual Core....

I am going back to AMD once I start building a new desktop.
I am too angry. But either way I can not afford to keep my precious asus v6va THat is why my desktop has always been amd!
post #7 of 14
Wheres the review for Sonoma vs Centrino Duo?
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anadtech.com


the yonah (cetrino duo) kills the sonoma in both performance and battery life! also supposedly the same cost to manufacture... no reason at all to buy a dothan/sonoma at this point
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Originally Posted by kpxgq
anadtech.com


the yonah (cetrino duo) kills the sonoma in both performance and battery life! also supposedly the same cost to manufacture... no reason at all to buy a dothan/sonoma at this point
Or we can just make the best of what we have. But I do agree and I just bought this laptop in october.
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Originally Posted by smilepak
I truely believe Intel F* us on that one. They launch Sonoma and in less than 1 year away they launch Dual Core....

I am going back to AMD once I start building a new desktop.
and 9months from yonah they plan on meron, it never stops never stops
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Originally Posted by LuckXIII
and 9months from yonah they plan on meron, it never stops never stops
it's called technological growth. frustrating for a little while yes (i got my z70va in november) but non-the-less better for everyone really.


I can't wait to do my notebook shopping again in 3 years because the techonology will be so much more advanced. It wouldn't be as fun if the technology didn't improve as fast as it does.
post #12 of 14
I'm 100% Sure Core Duo will not work on any of the current gen laptops because intel changed the socket. I think they went back to a 478pin and changed the pattern again. There was an article on it at Anandtech a while about it and they mentioned the pin layout changed thus changing the socket.
post #13 of 14
Life span: Banias about 2 years, Dothan about 1.5 years, Yonah 9 months and Meron less than 9 months?

Intel has been doing that since 8088 CPU. PII and PIII notebooks have many non compatible non upgradable cpu clock speed versions. This is Intel's strategy to survive in the market. Thats the price to keep your notebook up to date. I still have a pentium 120MHz Hitachi notebook, a Pentium II 366MHz Sharp notebook, a Pentium II 400MHz Dell notebook, a Pentium III 800MHz IBM Notebook, a Compaq X1000 1.6GHz Banias notebook and now an ASUS Z63a Dothan notebook. Majority of people buying notebooks for internet surfing, wordprocessing, e-mailing do not need anything faster than 120MHz. Its voluntary squeezing out pockets. No need to rant about.
post #14 of 14
Pin count is still the same, but the layout is different and the Alviso chipset does not support Yonah.

Don't be mad that you bought technology that'll become obsolete. That's the way it is. I'm still happily typing on my Dothan-based laptop because I knew what was coming but I needed this laptop a certain point and it's served me very well. I have no regrets.

I mean AMD's moving to a new socket too. It's the way it is (okay, so Intel does change sockets quite more often than AMD, but... it's technology).
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