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AMD's got Intel beat again

post #1 of 14
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So a while ago I was just cruising through this same general section, and sumbled accross a thread about Intels future plans, and how they are gonna end up knocking AMD off the map.
Well, I just finished reading about the latest AMD processor at PCStats.
http://pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?a...id=1918&page=1
There is no way Intel is gonna be able to beat those numbers, even with all the new Dual-core tech they are bringing out.
post #2 of 14
That covers nothing about AMD or Intel's future plans.

I will go over what I have heard to help you out a bit.

Intel intends to slowly phase out the P4 line, Their Uberkin great white hope is the Merom CPU which will be a 64 bit dual core CPU based of the Pentium M line.

AMD is still on .90 nm tech, they are going to work on switching to .65 (well behind Intel) Coming soon they will be switching over to Socket M2 or AM2 (recent name change?) which will support DDR2 and should offer a soild boost, they are also working on a Dual core Turion platform called Yamato.

It is way way to soon to call this one, though personaly my 2 cents is on AMD, I expect that when they start .65 nm fabing they will be able to clock the Athlon 64 line very highly, Their dual cores already hit 2.8 ghz with air and 3 ghz with liquid cooling. I would not be shocked to see .65 nm cored Athlon 64 X2's or dual core FX products hiting 3.6+ ghz. Even if Merom is just as efficent or more efficent than AMD's up coming products, It could still be facing a sizeable speed gap based on raw clock rates.

Also there are some weaknesses in the Pentium M, in the vast majority of benches a P-M matches or beats an A64 at an the same clock speed, but in a few it will fall far behind. Intel has done some work on these weaknesses for Yonah, but will have to do more for Merom to be fully competitive IMHO.
post #3 of 14
I believe yamato is not the processor, it's the platform, kind of centrino and pentium M. This articles should be an interesting read:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060106-5920.html
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by Hucsman
I believe yamato is not the processor, it's the platform, kind of centrino and pentium M. This articles should be an interesting read:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060106-5920.html
I belive I said Dual Core Turion Platform.
post #5 of 14
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Whatever Intel has cooked up, as long as the frontside bus is still limited by a slow front side bus, even at 1067 MHz, it's gonna fall behind AMDs lastest Dual-core processor.
post #6 of 14
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by jack53
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
And the reason being???..........................

Or are you just professing your ignorance?
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by jack53
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
Ever own a desktop?
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by jack53
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
Then why does my Athlon clocked at 1.84GHz out perform my P4 3.0GHz at just about everything?
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by jack53
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
Wow what cave did you come from? Seriously AMD has been whomping all over Intel for quite some time now when it comes to Performance, Performance per Watt, Performance per Dollar, New Patents filed. Advanced CPU design including Dual core CPU's where the cores can actualy comunicate with eachother, and an On Die Memory controler (something Intel seems to be having a hard time copying). Which is why AMD has been stealing market share from Intel for some time, the only possible defendable remotely sane thing that you could be trying to express is that AMD will never take the dominate market share position from Intel. That may be a while away however it should be noted that AMD actualy outsold Intel in the domestic (U.S.) Desktop recently.
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Originally Posted by jack53
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
Of course, beacouse Intel is not competitive years ago.
"END OF STORY"
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by jack53
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
lol
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by jack53
AMD will NEVER beat Intel. End of story.
In terms of gaining higher market share over Intel...I wouldn't say never but I don't see it anytime soon. Intel has too many businesses that AMD will have a hard time winning imo.

As far as performance...AMDs have been winning since they released the Thunderbird about 6-7 years ago. Atleast that's what I recall
post #14 of 14
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Intel's are just to limited by the frontside bus, by their inablity to raise the internal clock multiplier, their dual-core processors inablity to comunicate with each other inside the cpu die, and instead have to use up bandwidth from the already underperforming frontside bus, heat, and lots of other things. The only recent thing Intel has done ok on is their Pentium M Processors, yet they are to stupid to realize that these would be excellent as a desktop processor simply because they can do much more work per cycle, use less power, and create less heat than their Pentium 4 desktop brother. Anyone who wants true performance, and a cheaper overall computer, would be better with AMD than Intel.
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