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post #21 of 70
1/12/06 at 11:19pm
Well hell, that's one damn good score you got there..Hmm...
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post #22 of 70
1/12/06 at 11:51pm
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Originally Posted by aussietoysgames
I have downloaded and ran 3DBenchmark05 like everyone is telling me to do. I was asked to post the scores and here is what it says:
Game Test 3D Mark Score: 6687
GT1- Return to Proxycon: 28.5 fps
GT2- Firefly Forest: 20.4 fps
GT3- Canyon Flight: 33.0 fps

CPU Tests CPU Score: 4764
CPU Test 1: 2.4 fps
CPU Test 2: 4.2 fps

I hope everyone who told me to run this knows what these numbers mean? I tried messing with the settings on BF2 some more and still can not run the game without skipping. I have tried online, single player, etc. No matter what I get skipping and lagging. The only way it runs smooth is at low settings. It will run great at any res. as long as it is on low. Medium and High no matter the res. creates the same skipping and laggy problems. I don't get it Any more suggestions would be great! If these numbers help out the guys who told me to run that program mean anything let me know. A big Thanks!!!!!
Your game test score of 6687 is exactly what I'd expect from your machine - it's normal, this tells us that there's almost certainly nothing wrong with your video card, CPU or memory. You say you're getting skipping and lagging in BF2 could you explain in more detail exactly what you're seeing - are you seeing moving characters/objects in the game pause briefly and then skip to a slightly different spot? (this is normally due to slow internet bandwidth)

Are you seeing screen redraw lag ie. when things on the screen are moving the image appears to tear as the screen struggles to redraw the image as it moves? (this is an unfortunate fact of life with all LCD screens, even those with low millisecond ratings, that becomes more apparent when large movements happen very quickly on-screen)
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post #23 of 70
1/13/06 at 12:03am
yeah...it looks about right. my 82.12 and performance inf from laptopvideotogo scored 6995 so it looks about right. check your bf2 .ini to make sure you run at 1600 res and 61Hz....other than that, i can't see what the issue is...
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post #24 of 70
1/13/06 at 12:25am
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Originally Posted by andrepeterhill
You should score over 6500 3DMarks at the end, with overclocking you should be able to get up to 7700 (I can step you through overclocking if you want). See how you go and let me know what score you get.
I'm sure andrepeterhill knows what he's doing (and judging by many of his previous posts in other threads, he does), but I wouldn't recommend overclocking to someone who is a Turn-it-On-and-Hope-it-Works type o' person.
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post #25 of 70
1/13/06 at 2:16am
Thread Starter 
Well andrepeterhill I'm glad it's not my card then. I am having the first set of problems you have listed. Such as people moving all over such as missed frames, slow movement, example being running or aiming your gun it goes from normal speed to slow back to normal. I would also expect the internet connection that is why I tried it on single player mode. I however was getting the same results. Computer people bouncing around like the game is missing frames, just a overall laggy feeling at times. Such as the game moving normal speed than slowing down alot when a fire fight happens are there are multiple objects moving around you. If I was standing there looking at the sky the game runs fine but as soon as the "Action" starts it takes a nose dive when speed is concerned.
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post #26 of 70
1/13/06 at 2:37am
I'm afraid I don't have a copy of BF2 yet so I don't think I can help too much more on this one, I've had a poke around other forums and noticed that other people have had similar issues with BF2 and high end video cards. Some people say you need at least 2gigs of memory to run in highest detail smoothly (even at low resolutions) others say it's all about balancing the different performance options. I'll have to bump this one to someone who has experience with BF2 specifically.
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post #27 of 70
1/13/06 at 3:45am
I haven't seen anyone mention this, but when you use a low resolution (such as 800x600) your performance is CPU bound. Basically, this means your processor is handling the graphics detail instead of your top of the line graphics card. Once you raise the resolution to something very high, such as 1600, your graphics card will handle the detail. This is not necessarily a technically correct answer, but hopefully I made my point accessable: raise your resolution to increase performance (as counter-intuitive as that seems).

Why are you running the game at 800x600? Are there no other options available? You should delete your user cache, as well. The difference between 1GB and 2GB will not significantly affect your graphics performance. It will help with load times, between maps and such, but it shouldn't be causing what you are describing.

Delete your cache, change the resolution to the highest setting (1600x), and then allow the game to re-optimize the shaders.

good luck and hope that helps.
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post #28 of 70
1/13/06 at 8:10am
I had some stuttering in BF2 with 1gb of ram, 2gb smoothed it out and made it load faster as well.
I also get stuttering if I try using the inbuilt sound (using the inbuilt microsoft driver rather than the realtek one) on hardware setting.
This doesn't bother me as I'm using a audigy 2 pcmia card and rarely play anything without using this and some 5.1 headphones.

Aussietoygames you could also try looking in the nvidia control panel;
right click on desktop, select nvidia display->laptop display
then look for powermizer option, make sure that the AC outlet setting is on maximum performance.
When i first had my machine this was set to balanced.
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post #29 of 70
1/13/06 at 9:18am
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Originally Posted by fards
I had some stuttering in BF2 with 1gb of ram, 2gb smoothed it out and made it load faster as well.
I also get stuttering if I try using the inbuilt sound (using the inbuilt microsoft driver rather than the realtek one) on hardware setting.
This doesn't bother me as I'm using a audigy 2 pcmia card and rarely play anything without using this and some 5.1 headphones.

Aussietoygames you could also try looking in the nvidia control panel;
right click on desktop, select nvidia display->laptop display
then look for powermizer option, make sure that the AC outlet setting is on maximum performance.
When i first had my machine this was set to balanced.
I would hope that adding an extra gig of RAM would "smooth" things out.
But the OP is describing a situation where he cant even really play the game. BF2 is definately playable with only 1 gig of RAM.

Of course, its irrelevent since I noticed after re-reading the first post that he actually has 2 gigs of RAM! Dunno where I got the notion that he only had one.

Anyway, drop to the console in game and check your fps and let us know what they are please.
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post #30 of 70
1/13/06 at 3:23pm
Actually GeforceGo7800GTX and GeforceGo7800GTX are NOT the same. The desktop counterpart is slightly better in terms of memory bandwith, fill rate etc. You should never compare desktop with laptop graphics card, it will never be the same. Same story is with gf6600, gf6800 and ati cards. Here is the specs taken from nvidia site (www.nvidia.com):

GeForce Go 7800 GTX(notebook):
Graphics Bus Technology PCI Express
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec.) 38.4
Fill Rate (billion pixels/sec.) 10.32
Vertices/sec. (million) 860
Pixels per clock (peak) 24
RAMDACs (MHz) 400


Geforce 7800(desktop):
Graphics Bus Technology PCI Express
Memory 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec.) 54.4
Fill Rate (billion pixels/sec.) 13.2
Vertices/sec. (million) 1100
Pixels per clock (peak) 24
RAMDACs (MHz) 400


Make sure you have the latest drivers, it should work just fine and performance should be pretty close to desktop version.
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post #31 of 70
1/13/06 at 6:26pm
you need a minimum of 1.5 gigs of ram to play bf2 with max settings. if not then it would stutter because it is loading graphics from hard drive. how much ram do you have?

edit; nvm, looks like you do have more than enough ram.

i guess just make sure you have a broadband connection and that you are connected to a good bf2 server. i know i have problems with lag on the majority of servers out there and it is dificult to pin point a server with no lag. lag will cause stuttering no matter what display settings you have.
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post #32 of 70
1/14/06 at 7:16pm
whear did u get the 82.xx drivers?? nvidias site say the laest is the 81.xx drivers.
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post #33 of 70
1/14/06 at 8:21pm
Just installed B2 and the patch, worked like a charm..just need to make sure you have the video.con to be 1600x1200@61Hz. No lag...!
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post #34 of 70
1/14/06 at 9:22pm
Could some of the 9750s have the same heatsink-tape issue that a few of the 5720s had? Also download MobileMeter and report your CPU's temperature.

I had a similar problem with my first 5720 but someone else discovered that the issue was the a piece of plastic tape had not been removed from between the CPU and heatsink. This was causing overheating, power problems, and extremely poor graphics performance. Once I removed the tape, everything ran fine.

Since you're not tech-savvy, don't try this yourself. If your CPU is running hot, then have Sager replace the computer.
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post #35 of 70
1/14/06 at 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by dp13
whear did u get the 82.xx drivers?? nvidias site say the laest is the 81.xx drivers.
Ditto.

laptopvideotogo.com is not working

I tried v81.94 that's on NVIDIAs website. When I try to install them I get an error saying that it can't find any hardware that goes to the drivers.
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post #36 of 70
1/15/06 at 3:01am
Try this link for Laptop Video:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

or this:

http://www.guru3d.com/news.html

Be sure that you get the modded .inf file as well.


baldman
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post #37 of 70
1/15/06 at 7:33am
i have issues running bf2 but I think its RAM related. You really need 2 gigs for that pig of a game to run right

oops helps if you read the whole thread :P
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post #38 of 70
1/15/06 at 1:33pm
so u guys are using desktop video drivers with a modified .inf to get to run on the 7800 go laptop. right? is that safe??
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post #39 of 70
1/15/06 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by dp13
so u guys are using desktop video drivers with a modified .inf to get to run on the 7800 go laptop. right? is that safe??
Yes and no! I've been running desktop drivers with modified .infs in x64 since last April. The people at NGO, Omega, Laptopvideo2go and DHzer0point know what they are doing.

Better questions would be... do you know how to properly remove and install video drivers? Are you comfortable working with .infs? Do you have your system backed up so you can revert to it's previous state if the drivers don't agree with your system? If not, you are better off sticking with official Nvidia mobile drivers or those released by Sager. I've never had drivers with modded .infs hose my system. I've always been prepared just in case.
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post #40 of 70
1/15/06 at 2:28pm
Has anyone figured out why NVIDIAs drivers off of their site aren't working?
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