Originally Posted by chuck232
I guess you purposely forgot all the successful Intel chip designs.
Wake up, Merom's an improved Yonah which is looking quite nice in its own right already.
I did not mean to imply that merom would suck, though I would not be shocked to see some issues, since it is intended to be the merging point between the PM and P4 lines, IE no more net burst, no more P4 as we know it, Actualy from Intel's recent marketing whispers no more Pentium Brand name.
Anyways AMD is looking pretty ambitious with Taylor, It seems they are talking March (hoped for Q1) launch, with launch speeds of 2.2 ~ 2.6 ghz, and a 35 watt TDP based on .90-nm SOI and DDR II 667 support. If AMD can deliver a 2.6 ghz Turion X2, in the next few months I would Imagine that to be a problem for Intel.
Amd also states they will be switched over to a .65nm strained germanium process they devloped with IBM by the end of this year. They claim a 40% reduction in power useage compared to "competing .65 nm processes" IBM has said that chips could scale to "well over 6 ghz" using their process.
So just a hypothetical here, but even if Merom is good, how would you expect it to stack up to say a 3.6~4.5 ghz Turion/Athlon X2?
This year should be interesting, Looks like we have the potential for some big clock speed gains that we have not seen in some time.
Originally Posted by NecessaryEvil
Yeah. All the misgivings one would have about the Prescott, Itanium (which is a completely different situation), Willamette...and the 1.13ghz Pentium 3 (you're going waaaaaaaay back...)
Those have been countered by: Northwood, Tualatin, the entire Pentium -M line.
For a rather long while, a Northwood B (and C) were outpacing the Athlon XPs they went up against.
Well Itanium was a first instance of new Intel Tech, they bombed it, then (questionably) fixed it later, the 1.13 ghz Pentium 3 was well just desperation so I wont count it, Willamette was the first instance of the new P4, Intel blew it, Fixed it with Northwood, then tried to graft additional features onto it while switching over to a new manufacturing process and blew it with Prescott. The common thread was Intel has been blowing it when they try to make a significant change to a product, or launch a new one a lot recently, and Merom is going to be another significant change/new product.