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Digital video cameras?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
I'm in the market for a digital video camera does anybody have any recommendations?

What I should look for?

I will be using this for video editing, still pictures are not a must!
post #2 of 12
Well you need to give more info, Like are you just gonna use it for home movies and such, and how much you looking to spend. Like if you are in the $300-$700 you can get a decent sony or canon. If you are useing it for like more indepth higher quality stuff I would suggest the Sony VX-2000 or the Panasonic AG-DVX100 Both really great camcorders. But more info would help.

Thanks,
John

PS This is a good website casue the prices are low and my friend got a Sony VX-2000 for there and had no problems.

www.bwayphoto.com
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
I will be using it for putting together quality, not professional, editing for personal and presentations

Looking for a good camera, not professional, that will do a really good job.
price between $500 to $1000?

Thanks
post #4 of 12
aer you on the fox? i heard a 'g-man' doing sports and other funny shtuff with louis and floorwax. lates. sorry i don't own a digicamera, but wish i did!!!
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
No I'm not on the fox, but I am funny looking haha
post #6 of 12
Are you still looking? A key issue, as far as Ive learned, is not so much price but that your new digital camera has 3 CCDs, or light sensors for each primary color. Ive seen new cameras on the marked with 3 CCDs that are not in the professional price range. Rather than trusting manufacturers specifications, which generally boost light sensitivity, zooms and the like, 3 CCDs offer a minimum quality benchmark, that may help you along.
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
I am still looking, do you have any recommendations?
post #8 of 12
Well,

I have a sony PDx10, which is the descendant of the PD 100. It is rated PROsumer. It cost about $2000. The industry leader in DV Cams is the rugged Sony PD150 - soon to be PD170, so if you can get hold of a used such, youll be in company with most Professional DV Videographers.

Core issues are:

XLR type mike inputs - preferably two. Headphone jacks are out, as their socket wear easily creating inteference noise. The mike input should preferably be separated from the main body of the camera to eliminate camera noise. Without mike inputs, you will have a hard time recording from a distance and getting the sound right.

3 ccd sensors recording a minimum of 480 TV lines (Secam) or 520 (Pal) to have TV quality.

Light sensitivity less than 5 lux. The PD 150 has a sensitivity of 2 lux, which enables it to film in the light of 2 candles. Good at night. This is exceptionally good. My PDx10 has 7 lux, and is generally poor performing without videolights indoor.

Vertical glare. Digital cameras record a white vertical line when filming high contrast areas such as a light bulb, concert light or car light. This can be very annoying, and the width of this line varies according to different models. If you can, test your camera by seeing in the lcd monitor while recording bright light.

Framerate. With video, as in TV, you only need interlaced scan. That is a sequence of 25 (pal) or 29 (secam) half-pictures a second, adding up to 12.5 and 14.49 whole images per second. (Dont ask, its how the old TV is built up) Progressive scan, that is motion picture quality, needs 24 full frames per second. That is complete pictures recorded sequentally. You wont get this quality under $3000 at least.

About has a good introduction to buying digital video cameras here:

Here they have a list of the best camcorders under $600. (Single CCD)

Once you get your camera, you might as well stick with About on what to do next:

New cameras come out all the time, so Id check out your internet dealer on various models, and then checking these models out by a google search.

I found one camera that looks good (this panasonic), but Id really recommend you to first figure out your needs taking into account your budget.

So, I suppose, your left with figuring exactly how much you are willing to spend. Generally you get better quality the more you spend, but what is left up for you to decide, is what quality level is adequate for your present needs.

When I dialled tv stations asking them what I should be looking for, their reply was almost uniformly 3ccd and XLR sound. So if you have any prospects of freelancing for TV, making ads or similar, the answer is given.

Good luck.
post #9 of 12
G-man, you dont need XLR audio inputs (which will already put you over your max you want to spend, unless you find an old used sony DCR-VX1000 on ebay) But like IBS said you will want an external mike input.

3CCDs are nice but again will most likely put you over your max ($1000) plus the difference in quality between 1 ccd and 3ccd's is hardly noticable, meaning when you show your videos your audience (family) will not be able to tell a differnce in 1 or 3 ccds.

For what your looking for id say get a SONY (its what I use and I recommend them) all Sonys come with "night shot" (which is 0 Lux) and have everything you would want to get you right into digital video.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks Christine Faith & IBS

I appreciate the info, I have been leaning toward just going all out and buy some quality equipment and do it right the first time instead of buying down and upgrading later!

G-man
post #11 of 12
Let us know what you end up choosing.
post #12 of 12
The Panasonic PV-GS70 is a good bet -- offering a 3CCD image sensor (which, as others stated, is the way to go for quality) for a good price (under $1000 US).

I know a few people who have bought this particular camcorder, and are quite happy with their purchase.
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