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post #61 of 110
1/25/06 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Amackera
In terms of GUI, Ubuntu is much better set up. Also, it gives you easier access to more complicated controls for your system. It gives you more power to break things

It's not about "What can Linux do that Windows can't?" it's about "Why use Windows when Linux can do everything Windows can?"


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Originally Posted by pflanagan
I really like ubuntu, but I wish someone would tell me how to pronounce it correctly. So far I think I've heard about 3 different ways.
"oo-boon-too." It's a long o sound, the same vowel in each syllable. From the Zulu/Xhosa/Tsonga language families.
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post #62 of 110
1/25/06 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by Smooth317
Excuse my ignorance. I understand that Linux can run most everything Windows can. What can Linux do that Windows can't? I understand a major advantage is that its free, but...in terms of capabilities...why use Linux if you can already do it in Windows without the (possible) hassle of having to hack source code? I'm familiar with Linux being a more stable server OS, but for typical desktop use...?
This is very difficult to put into words. WIndows is so annoying, but if youve been using it your whole life you dont notice it. You really have to use linux for a couple weeks to understand why, and then you wont want to go back.

An example of something you can do in linux that you cant in windows is if you hold alt, you can move a window by clicking anywhere on it with the left mouse button. Of course, this is not a big enough reason to switch OS's, but its the little things like this that are all over that make me stick to linux.
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post #63 of 110
1/25/06 at 7:35pm
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Originally Posted by drizek
An example of something you can do in linux that you cant in windows is if you hold alt, you can move a window by clicking anywhere on it with the left mouse button. Of course, this is not a big enough reason to switch OS's, but its the little things like this that are all over that make me stick to linux.
I switched mine to the Windows key ... so it would do some damn work around this place!
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post #64 of 110
1/25/06 at 7:43pm
the windows key is the shortcut key for amarok, so i use it for that.
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post #65 of 110
1/25/06 at 11:43pm
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Originally Posted by Amackera
In terms of GUI, Ubuntu is much better set up. Also, it gives you easier access to more complicated controls for your system. It gives you more power to break things

It's not about "What can Linux do that Windows can't?" it's about "Why use Windows when Linux can do everything Windows can?"
I also agree there were some interface things that I liked in Ubuntu. But as for your second question, the one thing Windows can do that Linux can not do is easilly install on the vast majority of hardware out there. I've personally tried to install Linux on about half a dozen computers. I've only gotten it going on one, my 9300. That said, if Ubuntu was able to ...
1. Install with only a few hours of work on my part
2. Play the games I want to play
3. Run the work software I HAVE to run,

...then I'd probably jump at the chance to flee the security bugaboo that is MS Windows and all for FREE!
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post #66 of 110
1/26/06 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by Amackera
Oh, were you installing Ubuntu on your flash drive? that's about 1.8 Gb, but I dont think that'd work anyway.. God knows it'd be dreadful slow if it has to load using a USB 2.0 port..
Actually got it to work. I loaded Ubuntu Server on it and it booted up very quickly. The only problem is I have no room for a GUI.
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post #67 of 110
1/26/06 at 1:45am
linux!=ubuntu

there are other distros out there, and chances are that at least one of them will install on your system. there really is no major hardware(cpus, motherboards, etc) that are not linux compatible. sure, maybe you might have trouble with a random peripheral or something, but you can get a basic linux system set up on just about anything.
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post #68 of 110
1/26/06 at 1:46am
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Originally Posted by RaceModel.net
Actually got it to work. I loaded Ubuntu Server on it and it booted up very quickly. The only problem is I have no room for a GUI.

why not just copy the livecd to your flashdrive?
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post #69 of 110
1/26/06 at 2:36am
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Originally Posted by drizek
why not just copy the livecd to your flashdrive?
I may try that. I did it this way for the learning experience. I also think I read somewhere that using the livecd on a hard/flash drive won't work for some reason.

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post #70 of 110
1/26/06 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by RaceModel.net
Actually got it to work. I loaded Ubuntu Server on it and it booted up very quickly. The only problem is I have no room for a GUI.
Would Xubuntu be of any use to you? I got that going on a laptop with a 2GB hard drive, and there was plenty of space left over. I wish I could remember the exact amount of space it took up. Maybe I'll try it again, just so I know.

I guess another factor would be the size of your USB drive. Size does matter. ...
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post #71 of 110
1/26/06 at 4:03am
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Originally Posted by RaceModel.net
I may try that. I did it this way for the learning experience. I also think I read somewhere that using the livecd on a hard/flash drive won't work for some reason.
There is a nice linux distribution for usb sticks:
http://flashlinux.org.uk/


Marcus
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post #72 of 110
1/26/06 at 4:07am
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Originally Posted by mohapi
I guess another factor would be the size of your USB drive. Size does matter. ...
Never the size... either how you can use it...

Marcus
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post #73 of 110
1/26/06 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by kpurcell
I also agree there were some interface things that I liked in Ubuntu. But as for your second question, the one thing Windows can do that Linux can not do is easilly install on the vast majority of hardware out there. I've personally tried to install Linux on about half a dozen computers. I've only gotten it going on one, my 9300. That said, if Ubuntu was able to ...
1. Install with only a few hours of work on my part
2. Play the games I want to play
3. Run the work software I HAVE to run,

...then I'd probably jump at the chance to flee the security bugaboo that is MS Windows and all for FREE!
In response to your points:
1. I have no idea how it would work on a different system, so you're probably right. You seem to have more experience installing linux on different systems, I've only done it once :S.
2. 100% totally agree
3. I can understand how your work place would force you to use M$ productivity software, but in reality, there is nothing that is made my M$ that isn't also made better and distributed freely as an open source package. Open source software, though usually more buggy off the launch, tends to have a much large support base. I mean, I'd rather use Gaim than MSN or AIM, I'd use Open office over M$ Office. That's probably personal opinion though.
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post #74 of 110
1/26/06 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by Amackera
Open source software, though usually more buggy off the launch, tends to have a much large support base.
What has open source? Have you ever seen the list of "known" bugs of an XP system or InternetExplorer? If you would imagine this were all open source, there were many many more, because nobody see it now...

Marcus
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post #75 of 110
1/26/06 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by RaceModel.net
Actually got it to work. I loaded Ubuntu Server on it and it booted up very quickly. The only problem is I have no room for a GUI.
bah!!! I dont beleive you! Just so you know there are full linux systems (browsers, movie/music apps etc..) with a GUI running in as little as 16MBs of space.
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post #76 of 110
1/26/06 at 6:32pm
w00t, i just installed gentoo. it takes 20 seconds to boot, compared to 60 seconds with ubuntu. if you have patience and want to learn about how linux works, i recommend it. the best part is that you can just run the whole install straight from ubuntu. im posting from ubuntu and im compiling amarok in gentoo at the same time.

networking is a bitch, although i still havent put too much effort into it.
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post #77 of 110
1/26/06 at 6:40pm
Gentoo is NOT for people who are new to Linux or who just want to see what Linux is like to run. Actually I never got into all the hype surrounding Gentoo at all. There are no real performance gains in real world applications that amke up for having to go through and compile everything from scratch. It IS a great distribution for benchmarking. I'd rather take a Debian CD/DVD or a Ubuntu CD, install and be done with it.

EDIT: Note nothing really against Gentoo or drizek.. I just wanted to point out that its more of an advanced geek distro.
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post #78 of 110
1/26/06 at 6:46pm
i agree, thats why i triple boot
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post #79 of 110
1/27/06 at 4:06am
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Originally Posted by drizek
w00t, i just installed gentoo. it takes 20 seconds to boot, compared to 60 seconds with ubuntu. if you have patience and want to learn about how linux works, i recommend it.
The boot process is heavy dependent from the services starting, the runlevel and how they are started. Some distribution uses parallel starting these and some other do it one after one.
And there's no pre-caching like in windows systems with an integrated GUI.

Marcus
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post #80 of 110
1/31/06 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by MadMartagan
God bless the Ubuntu community. They do frigging wonders. I hope this distro will be one to give M$ a run.... now if only Google picked up Debian and joined the foray.


http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...19224&from=rss

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